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I've been asking that ever since the Black Panthers put a contract out on George Zimmerman and the Obama's DOJ didn't file charges against the Black Panthers. The Black Panthers comitt a felony and aren't prosecuted ? What are the Black Panthers connection to Obama ?
Well......going down this route...Lead Homicide Detective Serino wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter from the very beginning, he didn't believe Zimmerman's story. Are you saying the decision not to charge was political?
It was a matter of protocol, Lee said. Arresting Zimmerman based on the evidence at hand would have been a violation of Zimmerman's Fourth Amendment rights, he said. Thus, the Sanford police presented a "capias request" to the state's attorney, asking that the prosecutor determine whether it was a "justifiable homicide," issue a warrant for arrest or present the case to a grand jury.
Perhaps. But in a situation where there is some doubt surrounding a claim of self-defense when using deadly force, a trial to determine if self-defense was the case is not unreasonable.
Regardless of her performance at trial, at least one witness claimed the victim was not the aggressor. When this is combined with other testimony expressing confusion about what was witnessed (or heard); going through a trial process would hopefully resolve the issue.
Perhaps. But in a situation where there is some doubt surrounding a claim of self-defense when using deadly force, a trial to determine if self-defense was the case is not unreasonable.
Regardless of her performance at trial, at least one witness claimed the victim was not the aggressor. When this is combined with other testimony expressing confusion about what was witnessed (or heard); going through a trial process would hopefully resolve the issue.
I've been asking that ever since the Black Panthers put a contract out on George Zimmerman and the Obama's DOJ didn't file charges against the Black Panthers. The Black Panthers comitt a felony and aren't prosecuted ? What are the Black Panthers connection to Obama ?
Starting to look like that the Obama White House was heavily involved in seeing that Zimmerman was prosecuted when they knew that Trayvon Martin was just your typical urban street thug and Zimmerman was a law abiding citizen who protected his life under the laws of Florida.
>"Judicial Watch, Inc. on April 24, 2012 launched an investigation into the Trayvon Martin case based on reports that the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) had sent a secret team of “peacekeepers” to Sanflord, Florida, where Martin was shot on February 26, 2012 after wandering in a gated community after dark. George Zimmerman, a resident of the community and its neighborhood watch captain, is currently on trial for Martin’s death though he maintains he acted in self-defense."< It's all here -> Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier
>"A largely unknown group of Justice Department officials has inserted itself into the local Florida protest movement surrounding the killing of Trayvon Martin, assisting the protestors and attending their meetings and rallies.
While the officials are tasked with preventing racial violence, it appears that in carrying out their duties, they have provided significant assistance to those protesting the killing of Martin, who black, by George Zimmerman, who is half white and half Hispanic."< -> Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier
See this is the part I don't quite understand...I have heard from listening to the coverage, that although the State didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Z committed 2nd degree, but then that a self defense case is an affirmative defense case to some extent, so the defense has an obligation to put on some sort of case to prove that self defense was corroborated? And although I think they did that, hell, I think the prosecution did that with John Goode...But in any case, I also think that the Jury instructions will be crucial. This, I believe was a politically motivated case from the start, so the instructions will have to be watched closely....
In the end, Z will, and is now in the hands of the jury.
Oh BS.......... This case isn't about politics.. Its about an unnecessary shooting.
Conspiracy theorists are so juvenile and tiresome. Its reaching to blame Obama.
And if he had a daughter in law, she might look like Rachel "Dee Dee" Jeantel. Just saying."If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." - President Obama
You bet your sweet ass this was politically motivated from the White House. Then the DoJ organizes and sends protesters, after turning its cheek on the threats from the Black Panthers.
Nice way to ease racial tension, Obama. This isn't at all what you were promising in 2008.
Hmm, let me see if I can unravel this...
When deadly force is used the State (i.e. the Prosecutor's office, after review of the police investigation) can either choose not to prosecute because it is clear the act was done in self-defense OR, prosecute because they believe it was simply a criminal act.
When you face trial, as the defendant you are granted the presumption of innocence and the Prosecutor has the burden of showing you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
However, if you are providing an "affirmative defense" then the burden shifts to you to prove the merits of that defense. NOTE, this only applies to the affirmative defense itself, because failure to show it does not prove you are guilty of the crime, only that your attempt to get the case dismissed has no merit. The prosecution still retains the burden of proving guilt for the crimes charged.
Oh BS.......... This case isn't about politics.. Its about an unnecessary shooting.
Conspiracy theorists are so juvenile and tiresome. Its reaching to blame Obama.
"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." - President Obama
You bet your sweet ass this was politically motivated from the White House. Then the DoJ organizes and sends protesters, after turning its cheek on the threats from the Black Panthers.
Nice way to ease racial tension, Obama. This isn't at all what you were promising in 2008.
Ok, thanks I get what you are saying now....The only thing I would say is that the Judge to date has never afforded the defendant any presumption of innocence as far as I can tell from her disdain toward them...
Well......going down this route...Lead Homicide Detective Serino wanted Zimmerman charged with manslaughter from the very beginning, he didn't believe Zimmerman's story. Are you saying the decision not to charge was political?
Yet the one being Persecuted was Zimmerman, a registered Democrat. Strange.The whole trial was orchestrated to persecute conservatives.
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