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[W:816] A Lesson from Atlas Shrugged

haymarket said:
And are you aware that the death toll would be in the millions if we attempted herd immunity - which would take years?
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Work on your reading reading comprehension.

Read the part where I suggested the quarantine of those most susceptible to Covid...The elderly and those with many comorbidities. Which is different from the plan of the numb nuts from the CDC/WHO that still plan to quarantine everyone.
cabse5 said:
Quarantine those most at risk from Covid. Everyone else can go herd immunity. The disease will spread but no one will be adversely affected unless the quarantine for the elderly and those with comorbidities is broken.

Send all kids to school. Put the teachers and school workers at high risk to Covid in quarantine, for example.

Levelling the curve isn't important if those highest at risk are in quarantine.
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cabse5 said:
Work on your reading reading comprehension.

Read the part where I suggested the quarantine of those most susceptible to Covid...The elderly and those with many comorbidities. Which is different from the plan of the numb nuts from the CDC/WHO that still plan to quarantine everyone.
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Don't be a smart ass. You will be responded to in kind.

You conveniently ignore that the elderly or aged do not exist in a bubble apart from younger people who can be spreaders of the plague making your plan unworkable.
 
haymarket said:
Don't be a smart ass. You will be responded to in kind.

You conveniently ignore that the elderly or aged do not exist in a bubble apart from younger people who can be spreaders of the plague making your plan unworkable.
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Putting the elderly and those with many comorbidities in a bubble is literally the definition of quarantining them.:ROFLMAO:
 
cabse5 said:
Putting the elderly and those with many comorbidities in a bubble is literally the definition of quarantining them.:ROFLMAO:
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And in our society - that will NOT work because all of our lives overlap with other people of all age groups - either directly in one on one contact or in secondary contacts where the disease can still be passed. Such a plan is only a plan for killing very large numbers of people .
 
cabse5 said:
Work on your reading reading comprehension.

Read the part where I suggested the quarantine of those most susceptible to Covid...The elderly and those with many comorbidities. Which is different from the plan of the numb nuts from the CDC/WHO that still plan to quarantine everyone.
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Work on your PROOFREADING comprehension.
 
haymarket said:
And in our society - that will NOT work because all of our lives overlap with other people of all age groups - either directly in one on one contact or in secondary contacts where the disease can still be passed. Such a plan is only a plan for killing very large numbers of people .
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No, that is called, making them the victims. That is called house arrest. That is called, resigning yourself to ignoring the virus.

Responding to cabse 5
 
haymarket said:
And in our society - that will NOT work because all of our lives overlap with other people of all age groups - either directly in one on one contact or in secondary contacts where the disease can still be passed. Such a plan is only a plan for killing very large numbers of people .
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Oh, you forget that is March and April everyone was in quarantine.:rolleyes:
 
Guyzilla said:
No, that is called, making them the victims. That is called house arrest. That is called, resigning yourself to ignoring the virus.

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How is quarantining those who won't be affected adversely from Covid not house arrest?

People argue against quarantine but they're more than willing to postpone school for kids, to quarantine kids.:rolleyes:
 
Guyzilla said:
No, that is called, making them the victims. That is called house arrest. That is called, resigning yourself to ignoring the virus.

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What are you talking about? You're not worried if a school kid, for example, gets deathly sick from Covid. You're worried the school kid will pass the Covid to someone more susceptible to Covid - the elderly or those with many comorbidities.
 
cabse5 said:
What are you talking about? You're not worried if a school kid, for example, gets deathly sick from Covid. You're worried the school kid will pass the Covid to someone more susceptible to Covid - the elderly or those with many comorbidities.
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And you are not worried, that that child, while not dying, picks up a lifelong disability, that our economy will suffer for. And the child of course.
 
Guyzilla said:
And you are not worried, that that child, while not dying, picks up a lifelong disability, that our economy will suffer for. And the child of course.
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Someone needs to prove those disability possibilities for children exist.
 
Guyzilla said:
And you need to PROVE that you ACTUALLY intend to PROTECT THE VULNERABLES.
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Quarantine them...Keep the elderly and those with comorbidities apart from everyone else.
 
cabse5 said:
This.
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That is a cowardly answer. Do you MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO LEAVE? Do you provision them for that HOUSE ARREST? Do you simply allow the infected virus ignorers to housemate with vulnerables? You are SIMPLY ignoring the virus, and placing the ENTIRE onus upon the vulnerable.
 
Guyzilla said:
That is a cowardly answer. Do you MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO LEAVE? Do you provision them for that HOUSE ARREST? Do you simply allow the infected virus ignorers to housemate with vulnerables? You are SIMPLY ignoring the virus, and placing the ENTIRE onus upon the vulnerable.
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Do the same thing that states did with the social distancing quarantine. Mandate certain activities and prohibit others.

EDIT: IMO, those most susceptible to Covid will be more amenable to a quarantine if it'll save their lives. Politicians will push for it since politicians will be held accountable if things go wrong and politicians want to be re-elected.:rolleyes:
 
Robertinfremont said:
This is part 1 but there are more parts to follow.

I have never caught hell from Republicans on the values found in Atlas Shrugged but from Democrats, I catch holy hell. They prove how they think by rejecting the lessons of Atlas Shrugged. This comes close to discussing Antitrust laws were Government decides for business what business may do.

Watch part 1.

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Ayn Rand was pro-choice. Not only di you pick and choose from the real Bible, you pick and choose from your other one too
 
Guyzilla said:
That is a cowardly answer. Do you MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO LEAVE? Do you provision them for that HOUSE ARREST? Do you simply allow the infected virus ignorers to housemate with vulnerables? You are SIMPLY ignoring the virus, and placing the ENTIRE onus upon the vulnerable.
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This is way off topic. Still you know Quarantine means house arrest.
 
Guyzilla said:
No, that is called, making them the victims. That is called house arrest. That is called, resigning yourself to ignoring the virus.

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We cannot put a big target on the backs of our senior citizens and make them the victims while everybody else goes out to the bar for burgers and the latest Bruce Willis pic.
 
haymarket said:
And are you aware that the death toll would be in the millions if we attempted herd immunity - which would take years?
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Currently, more than 90% of covid deaths occur in the age demos above 60 years.

That general stat has been consistent throughout this plague.

The median age for deaths due to Covid is 78.
 
code1211 said:
Currently, more than 90% of covid deaths occur in the age demos above 60 years.

That general stat has been consistent throughout this plague.

The median age for deaths due to Covid is 78.
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That does NOT change the fact that we would lose MILLIONS if we foolishly attempted herd immunity as the solution.
 
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