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Science, 1000 years of which was denied by the christian and muslim churches.
Humankind is still paying the price with codified prohibitions to stem cell research....for one major abomination.
Science is the New Santa Claus
This thread was immediately inspired by the following post:
I don't wish to single out Pedestrian; his post was just timely and handy.
I've been reading silly posts like his -- from materialists, scientific naturalists, atheists, scientismatists and intellectual slackers -- for ten years.
It's high time someone called them on this baloney.
Science has cultural importance, to be sure, but it ain't ALL THAT.
After anesthesia and antibiotics and a few other medical scientific developments, nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense.
That bears repeating:
Nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense
Science by and large gives us TOYS.
Techno Toys.
That's why some of us love science so much.
Science is Santa Claus.
So we all had better not pout, we'd better not shout,
we'd better not cry, and we all know why
Whereas...
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us much more than science
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us an understanding of the human condition
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us values
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us a reason to live
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion are of real importance to humanity
Science gives us nothing of value
Science gives us toys
Science is Santa
Please don't quote the entire OP on the first page of the thread
Conserve DP bandwidth
Thank you
Well, asking reasonably of reasonable men apparently goes for naught.Thank you for making clear the right wing religionists disdain for science by comparing something that has saved my life, several times over, to a mythical creature who has not done anything for me ever.
And if you want to save bandwidth, try not using such crappy formatting.
That's precisely the OP point, pilgrim.Let us thank Santa for allowing us to post here.
Science is the New Santa Claus
This thread was immediately inspired by the following post:
I don't wish to single out Pedestrian; his post was just timely and handy.
I've been reading silly posts like his -- from materialists, scientific naturalists, atheists, scientismatists and intellectual slackers -- for ten years.
It's high time someone called them on this baloney.
Science has cultural importance, to be sure, but it ain't ALL THAT.
After anesthesia and antibiotics and a few other medical scientific developments, nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense.
That bears repeating:
Nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense
Science by and large gives us TOYS.
Techno Toys.
That's why some of us love science so much.
Science is Santa Claus.
So we all had better not pout, we'd better not shout,
we'd better not cry, and we all know why
Whereas...
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us much more than science
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us an understanding of the human condition
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us values
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion give us a reason to live
Poetry, Art, Music, and Religion are of real importance to humanity
Science gives us nothing of value
Science gives us toys
Science is Santa
Please don't quote the entire OP on the first page of the thread
Conserve DP bandwidth
Thank you
Your posts, sir, have become increasingly "meta" and mean-spirited, no doubt out of frustration and incomprehension.Things that are improtant to me;
Not starving. Being able to help people. Being able to positively contribute to society. Being slightly able to contribute to the advancement of society through paying taxes and generally helping keep the whole thing rolling; unblocking the scientist's toilet is a good thing to do as it allows him, or her, to keep doing the more important stuff, I still need paying for it.
Things that seem to be important to the religious here, particularly Odd Angle;
Being ale to claim victory in some sense in a debate. Setting up the debate so as to be only able to win is generaly the starting point but somehow it does not seem to work...
Being able to claim moral superiority over others. Generally the none-believers but members of different religions if none of those availible. Just keeps going wrong all the time.
Never learning anything.
Having an excuse to lie.
Science is the New Santa Claus
This thread was immediately inspired by the following post:
That bears repeating:
Nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense
Science gives us nothing of value
Yeah, zyzygy sang "I'm Gettin Nuttin For Christmas" at #5.Hmmm.....how did you manage to post that?
Hmmm.....how did you manage to post that?
The view from Santa's knee.Smoke signals sent via a sky daddy.
Your posts, sir, have become increasingly "meta" and mean-spirited, no doubt out of frustration and incomprehension.
Allow me to alleviate some of the latter.
The OP is about exaggerating the importance of science and underestimating the importance of the humanities.
Now I corrected your mistaken notion of the humanities about a month ago; let's see if you learned anything then.
Well, asking reasonably of reasonable men apparently goes for naught.
I'm delighted science saved your life. Dogs save people's lives too.
Saving people's lives takes its meaning from the meaning of life, and as per the OP science does not give us that.
Science may save your life but it can't give meaning to the lives it saves.
That's what the OP is about.
Thank you for your passionate post, although you know what you can do with that "right wing religionists" spiel.
If you don't know who you're talking to, the Thumper Rule is in effect.
Namaste
Things that are improtant to me;
Not starving. Being able to help people. Being able to positively contribute to society. Being slightly able to contribute to the advancement of society through paying taxes and generally helping keep the whole thing rolling; unblocking the scientist's toilet is a good thing to do as it allows him, or her, to keep doing the more important stuff, I still need paying for it.
Things that seem to be important to the religious here, particularly Odd Angle;
Being ale to claim victory in some sense in a debate. Setting up the debate so as to be only able to win is generaly the starting point but somehow it does not seem to work...
Being able to claim moral superiority over others. Generally the none-believers but members of different religions if none of those availible. Just keeps going wrong all the time.
Never learning anything.
Having an excuse to lie.
Your posts, sir, have become increasingly "meta" and mean-spirited, no doubt out of frustration and incomprehension.
Allow me to alleviate some of the latter.
The OP is about exaggerating the importance of science and underestimating the importance of the humanities.
Now I corrected your mistaken notion of the humanities about a month ago; let's see if you learned anything then.
Well, asking reasonably of reasonable men apparently goes for naught.
I'm delighted science saved your life. Dogs save people's lives too.
Saving people's lives takes its meaning from the meaning of life, and as per the OP science does not give us that.
Science may save your life but it can't give meaning to the lives it saves.
That's what the OP is about.
Thank you for your passionate post, although you know what you can do with that "right wing religionists" spiel.
I know exactly who I am talking to - someone who discounts scienceIf you don't know who you're talking to, the Thumper Rule is in effect.
Namaste
Your posts, sir, have become increasingly "meta" and mean-spirited, no doubt out of frustration and incomprehension.
Allow me to alleviate some of the latter.
The OP is about exaggerating the importance of science and underestimating the importance of the humanities.
Now I corrected your mistaken notion of the humanities about a month ago; let's see if you learned anything then.
If that was your point, then you should have said so. I doubt you would encounter much resistance.
Equating science with a fictional character that few adults believe in does not convey the idea you intended. I suspect the teachings of your religion have something to say about choosing ones words with care to avoid harm. Most belief systems do.
Wow another ironic internet post about how science is a waste.
Religious claptrap by ignorant illogical people who refuse to get educated trying to prove that their backwards morals and ignorance of pretty much everything makes them superior to others
ie another failed thread from the usual suspect
That bears repeating:
Nothing science tells us or gives us is of any importance in any ultimate sense
Why not?There can't be a meaning of life for a dead person.
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