[W:682] Israel is committing the crime of apartheid, rights group says

[Tigerace117]

No. They have to be members of the armed forces, not eligible to be drafted or former members. Most Israelis are civilians.

Their actions “facilitate” the deployment of IDF forces against the Palestinians. Therefore, all a-okay targets

Are you starting to figure out why trying to expand the definition of what is or isn’t a military target is such a bad idea?

 

[Moot]

Okay.
The difference between these strikes and the others and why it came without a warning unlike other strikes is that there was no intention to bring down the houses, they came down as a result of Hamas tunnels collapsing.

Israel air strikes kill 42 Palestinians, rockets fired from Gaza

An Israeli air strike in Gaza destroyed several homes on Sunday, killing 42 Palestinians, including 10 children, health officials said, as militants fired rockets at Israel with no end in sight to seven days of fighting.

www.reuters.com

As to your final sentence it is war and there are no files or documents to be handed.
Israel shared with the US the evidence of Hamas presence and its nature.

Israel showed US ‘smoking gun’ on Hamas in AP office tower, officials say

“We showed them the smoking gun proving Hamas worked out of that building,” a senior diplomatic source said. “I understand they found the explanation satisfactory."

www.jpost.com

The State Dept. said it hasn't seen or been provided any evidence from Israel regarding Hamas in the AP building....

Israel yet to show proof of Hamas in Gaza media tower: US

Secretary of State Antony Blinken says the US asked Israel for justification for the strike that levelled the tower.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Mika-El]

Meh. There were black soldiers in the Rhodesian Army; that doesn’t change the fact that “Rhodesia” was an apartheid state.

You are typical of arm chair geniuses who have never been to Muslim states or Israel and have no clue what dhimmitudre is let alone apartheid. More to the point you are belligerent and obnoxious posing as an expert on how Muslims live in Israel.

You need to understand that some of us understand your platitudes are based on your reality that comes from an internet site.

 

[Mika-El]

Their actions “facilitate” the deployment of IDF forces against the Palestinians. Therefore, all a-okay targets

Are you starting to figure out why trying to expand the definition of what is or isn’t a military target is such a bad idea?

Why do you speak with such a patronizing tone? He did not expand any definition of civilian. Hamas is a military target. If it uses the same build ing as the media the media accepts the risk. For AP to say it had no idea Islamic Jihad and Hamas operated out of their building is horse sheeyat. The whole damn city knew for years.

You are intellectually dishonest playing the game younfo that Hamas does not use Palestinian civilians as shields or to even try argue there is moral equivalence between shooting and being shot back at pretending one is not a response to the other and could be more safe. ThecIDF defends its civilians. It doesnt fire from their homes, hospitals and schools. It doesn't hide and stock pile its weapons in hospitals and use its ambulances to transport weapons. It doesn't have a Chater calling for a world wide war to rid the Muslims from the planet and turn the world into a Jewish theocracy as Hamas does against Israel.

You want to defend Hamas? Then you get called out for what you are a Hamas pom pom cheer leader.

 

[Mika-El]

Moot please explain Al Jazeera' s evidence for its conclusion. Military intelligence would not be sent to the State Department and do you think once received US intelligence will share it with you Moot let alone acknowledge it? Good God man get a grip of reality.

 

[Tigerace117]

You are typical of arm chair geniuses who have never been to Muslim states or Israel and have no clue what dhimmitudre is let alone apartheid. More to the point you are belligerent and obnoxious posing as an expert on how Muslims live in Israel.

You need to understand that some of us understand your platitudes are based on your reality that comes from an internet site.

Israel literally had close relations with apartheid South Africa throughout most of that regime’s existence.

Furthermore, blathering on about “dhimmitude” is utterly irrelevant.

You need to understand that the facts of the situation really don’t care how hurt your feelings are by someone pointing them out.

 

[Tigerace117]

Why do you speak with such a patronizing tone? He did not expand any definition of civilian. Hamas is a military target. If it uses the same build ing as the media the media accepts the risk. For AP to say it had no idea Islamic Jihad and Hamas operated out of their building is horse sheeyat. The whole damn city knew for years.

You are intellectually dishonest playing the game younfo that Hamas does not use Palestinian civilians as shields or to even try argue there is moral equivalence between shooting and being shot back at pretending one is not a response to the other and could be more safe. ThecIDF defends its civilians. It doesnt fire from their homes, hospitals and schools. It doesn't hide and stock pile its weapons in hospitals and use its ambulances to transport weapons. It doesn't have a Chater calling for a world wide war to rid the Muslims from the planet and turn the world into a Jewish theocracy as Hamas does against Israel.

You want to defend Hamas? Then you get called out for what you are a Hamas pom pom cheer leader.

He absolutely did. A press building is, by definition, not a military target. To try and expand the definition of “military targets” to include press buildings/media outlets causes the door to swing both ways.

You don’t see to comprehend that declaring that the other side uses “human shields” doesn’t give you free reign to slaughter those “shields”. There is no difference between what Hamas does now and how Israel created its state in the first place. There were attacks going on against the British while the British were fighting the literally Nazis. So spare us the faux moral outrage.

Your little tantrum is, as usual, meaningless.

 

[Apocalypse]

He absolutely did. A press building is, by definition, not a military target. To try and expand the definition of “military targets” to include press buildings/media outlets causes the door to swing both ways.

You don’t see to comprehend that declaring that the other side uses “human shields” doesn’t give you free reign to slaughter those “shields”. There is no difference between what Hamas does now and how Israel created its state in the first place. There were attacks going on against the British while the British were fighting the literally Nazis. So spare us the faux moral outrage.

Your little tantrum is, as usual, meaningless.

Post proof that a building used for both military and press purposes cannot be targeted according to international law.
Islamist terrorist propaganda is not facts and is not law, for the first time ever in your history on these boards try to back up your nonsense.

 

[Mika-El]

He absolutely did. A press building is, by definition, not a military target. To try and expand the definition of “military targets” to include press buildings/media outlets causes the door to swing both ways.

You don’t see to comprehend that declaring that the other side uses “human shields” doesn’t give you free reign to slaughter those “shields”. There is no difference between what Hamas does now and how Israel created its state in the first place. There were attacks going on against the British while the British were fighting the literally Nazis. So spare us the faux moral outrage.

Your little tantrum is, as usual, meaningless.

It was not just used by the press. Your denial andcattempt to continue sounding superior to others speaks for itself.

 

[Mika-El]

Israel literally had close relations with apartheid South Africa throughout most of that regime’s existence.

Furthermore, blathering on about “dhimmitude” is utterly irrelevant.

You need to understand that the facts of the situation really don’t care how hurt your feelings are by someone pointing them out.

And who do you think had and close relationships with Hamas, etc.? Is that the best you can do? You have no clue how Muslim ME nations operate and what dhiimmitudecis and how they discriminate or why so many fled their countries including but not limited to Jews. Your script of ignoring Muslim states and their bigotry and misrepresenting actual life and laws in Israel speaks to the selective biases and internet sites you read and gives you the belief your opinions are holy declarations of truth.

 

[Mika-El]

Anyone can find on public domain the interview with former AP writers stating AP was aware Hamas was in the building and AP saw them firing rockets many times and covered it up.Al Jazeera unlike AP was not stupid enough to deny it.

As for the US Sec. Of State only an idiot would think he could acknowledge intelligence. The intelligence would be exchanged by IDF to US military intelligence who then decide what goes to the State Dept. There are 1,200,intelligence agencies in the US. The US also has satellite technology that enables them to pin point where Hamas operates from.

To come on this thread and play dumb about Hamas and Islamic Jihad is pathetic. So is the attempt to suggest Israel,has nothing better to do than kill babies.

As well it is idiotic to think you suppress the media by getting it out of a building. If the IDF was in fact Hamas it would simply kill off the media like it has in the past with its opposition.

 

[Tigerace117]

Post proof that a building used for both military and press purposes cannot be targeted according to international law.
Islamist terrorist propaganda is not facts and is not law, for the first time ever in your history on these boards try to back up your nonsense.

Except, of course, that the only evidence that it was being used for “military purposes” is the IDF saying “trust us guys, it totally was!”

Shrieking incessantly about “terrorist propaganda” is a joke....especially given your incessant accusations of “anti semitism”.

 

[Tigerace117]

It was not just used by the press. Your denial andcattempt to continue sounding superior to others speaks for itself.

Oh, so now the press building supposedly wasn’t used by the press AT ALL? What a joke

As I said before, the important difference between the US and Israel is that the US usually owns up to its mistakes....and Israel’s defenders apparently think they’ll disintegrate if they ever do so.

 

[Tigerace117]

And who do you think had and close relationships with Hamas, etc.? Is that the best you can do? You have no clue how Muslim ME nations operate and what dhiimmitudecis and how they discriminate or why so many fled their countries including but not limited to Jews. Your script of ignoring Muslim states and their bigotry and misrepresenting actual life and laws in Israel speaks to the selective biases and internet sites you read and gives you the belief your opinions are holy declarations of truth.

“But.....but.....Hamas!”

Seriously bud, when your argument is literally “why aren’t we being held to the same standard as a literal terrorist group” you need to take a nice long look in the mirror.

Irrelevant snivelings about “dhimmitude” are irrelevant. What’s next, a claim that the Crusades were defensive wars?

Again, your tantrum is totally meaningless.

 

[Apocalypse]

Except, of course, that the only evidence that it was being used for “military purposes” is the IDF saying “trust us guys, it totally was!”

Shrieking incessantly about “terrorist propaganda” is a joke....especially given your incessant accusations of “anti semitism”.

Post facts that back your claim.
Facts. You know what that is?
This is not your youtube channel.

 

[Apocalypse]

Oh, so now the press building supposedly wasn’t used by the press AT ALL? What a joke

As I said before, the important difference between the US and Israel is that the US usually owns up to its mistakes....and Israel’s defenders apparently think they’ll disintegrate if they ever do so.

The difference is that Israel teaches the US how to avoid civilian casualties.
But that's just the facts you know.

Knock-on-the-Roof: The U.S. Air Force’s New Tactic

On April 26, 2016, U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Peter E. Gersten, the deputy commander for operations and intelligence (O&I) of Operation Inherent

warontherocks.com

When asked about the origins of this new U.S. Air Force tactic, Gersten answered that the Air Force adopted the tactic, technique, and procedure from Israel. A “knock-on-the-roof” is a long-standing Israeli Air Force (IAF) procedure that dates back to the end of 2008. The IAF procedure was developed as an improvised solution to an operational and moral paradox faced by joint operations centers (JOC) during the early days of the IDF’s 2008-2009 Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip.

Now that's how you post a based opinion. Watch and learn.

 

[Tigerace117]

Post facts that back your claim.
Facts. You know what that is?
This is not your youtube channel.

The fact that you haven’t posted any actual evidence supporting YOUR claim, for starters.

If there was independent evidence to support your allegations, you CERTAINLY would have posted it by now.

That you haven’t....shows there isn’t.

 

[Tigerace117]

The difference is that Israel teaches the US how to avoid civilian casualties.
But that's just the facts you know.

Knock-on-the-Roof: The U.S. Air Force’s New Tactic

On April 26, 2016, U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Peter E. Gersten, the deputy commander for operations and intelligence (O&I) of Operation Inherent

warontherocks.com

Now that's how you post a based opinion. Watch and learn.

The difference is that Israel can’t ever face up to the mistakes it makes, and routinely attempts to excuse the murder of non-combatants.

You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you in the ass

 

[gboisjo]

Yawn. And people wonder why unthinking support for Israel is no longer the norm.

I’ll give you a hint bud....calling people “Nazis” because they dare to point out the historical reality is throughly pathetic.

The historical reality of the Middle East is one of fanatical religious sects and zealots who shit on there women and bath themselves in blood.

Its understandable, all one has to do is to look back at the POS, Mohammad and the present day Koran and it quickly becomes apparent why the Middle East is the cesspool
it is.

I feel for the woman and children who live in this oppressive male dominated environment.

 

[Apocalypse]

The difference is that Israel can’t ever face up to the mistakes it makes, and routinely attempts to excuse the murder of non-combatants.

You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you in the ass

Haha you're so funny.
Now that's not a fact, unlike the article you just read that made you lose it.

 

[Apocalypse]

The fact that you haven’t posted any actual evidence supporting YOUR claim, for starters.

If there was independent evidence to support your allegations, you CERTAINLY would have posted it by now.

That you haven’t....shows there isn’t.

The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim. You claimed that a building used for press - even if holding military assets - cannot be targeted according to international law.
Where is the basis for that? Or for anything you've ever said on these boards?
This is not your YouTube channel.

 

[Tigerace117]

The historical reality of the Middle East is one of fanatical religious sects and zealots who shit on there women and bath themselves in blood.

Its understandable, all one has to do is to look back at the POS, Mohammad and the present day Koran and it quickly becomes apparent why the Middle East is the cesspool
it is.

I feel for the woman and children who live in this oppressive male dominated environment.

Yawn. Oh look, more hysterics.

All one has to do is look at the stupidity of the British and French— who were the ones who ACTUALLY created the mess— to see why the Middle East is in such shambles.

 

[Mika-El]

“But.....but.....Hamas!”

Seriously bud, when your argument is literally “why aren’t we being held to the same standard as a literal terrorist group” you need to take a nice long look in the mirror.

Irrelevant snivelings about “dhimmitude” are irrelevant. What’s next, a claim that the Crusades were defensive wars?

Again, your tantrum is totally meaningless.

The attempt to condescend falls on deaf ears. You attempted to defend Hamas with moral equilavence to what the IDF does and you were called out and your debate tactic when shown how stupid the attempt is, is the above. You stick your tongue out.

 

[Tigerace117]

Haha you're so funny.
Now that's not a fact, unlike the article you just read that made you lose it.

You STILL wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you in the ass.

And no amount of sobbing “but America” can change that either.

 

[Tigerace117]

The attempt to condescend falls on deaf ears. You attempted to defend Hamas with moral equilavence to what the IDF does and you were called out and your debate tactic when shown how stupid the attempt is, is the above. You stick your tongue out.

You were very upset when I pointed out the fact that there the IDF was slaughtering far more non-combatants than Hamas, yes. Unfortunately for you, the facts don’t care about your feelings.