over the last 25 years, there has a been a massive increase in guns bought by the public-especially "hi capacity" semi automatic handguns (rather than revolvers-the dominant handgun in the 60s and 70s) and semi automatic rifles such as the AR 15. There has NOT been a corresponding increase in the rate of gun violence or murders.
It is because you are saying guns are the problem and not the violence in the society. And you are not addressing the violence.
what are non-barbaric weapons?
It's clearly linked.
www.vox.com
A club is a barbaric weapon. There are many clubs.
you argument fails because our gun ownership has gone UP and the rate of gun violence has not. BTW do you have any proposed solutions? Now I personally don't think for a second that solving gun violence is what motivates any of the anti gun posters on this board-rather the anti gun position is based on politics but prove me wrong. The fact is, people on this board are not the ones shooting up schools, getting into gunfights with rival gangs or attacking churches or schools. Most of the bashing on this board is directed towards lawful gun owners and pro gun organizations, not at criminals, gang bangers or psychotic bezerker nutcases.It's clearly linked.
America doesn’t have more crime than other rich countries. It just has more guns.
Landmark research suggests that guns, not higher crime across the board, explain why America’s homicide rate is so high.
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And drug violence doesn't? How about solving that one first.
most of the people I worked with at DOJ-prosecutors, special agents, state task force officers-all admitted-to one degree or another, that the war on drugs-was a major cause of murders and gun violence
Yes the tool is not the problem. Crime violence. Drug violence. Family violence. Violence is the problem. You seem to think you can stop violence by limiting the tools that are used. (And that is magic thinking.)
was there a point about "barbaric weapons"?
You address them all, it's not a mutually exclusive choice. But the data points to it being an issue. Since we have so many, it's a big issue, because it appears to correlate.
And, the guns make it worse. Why is this obvious fact flying over your head?
You post no data, you don't advance your position.
Not true. A few high profile gun crimes happen but by far the violent crimes would continue with others tools.
you and some of the other anti gun posters who have a political agenda, pretend that the USA can suddenly be like nations that never had a large percentage of the population armed. You all pretend that we can suddenly change things if only we adopt the laws of countries such as England (which have become far more violent AFTER that country started engaging in draconian restrictions on firearms).
More people are beaten to death than killed with "assault weapons"
Data doesn't support that, sorry.
There you go again, not debating the issue, and instead attacking the posters.
Most gunshot related murders are perpetrated by people who already are banned from owning firearms.