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[W:233] Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common

trouble13 said:
The vaccinated can also spread the virus. What should we do about those people?
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This:

If you are vaccinated and become symptomatic you will get tested and self quarantine.
The vaccinated have done what they can.
The unvaccinated remain a menace.
 
Ethel2 said:
You only get unemployment if you are currently working and lose your job through no fault of your own as the article I quoted noted.
You must get a doctor to verify that you are disabled to get disability and that won’t be easy unless you are actually disabled. Refusing to get vaccinated isn’t a disability-it’s stupidity.
Face it-if you are working at a place that requires vaccination and you refuse you will be unpaid.
And that’s what you will deserve.
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That's up to a judge, not you.
 
Fledermaus said:
What about them?

They made an attempt to help spread the disease. The lazy, the stupid and the paranoid didn't.
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Only the compliant will be spared of the wrath of the mighty Progressives. Many of us are willing to take our chances by standing up to the strong arm tactics.
 
trouble13 said:
That's up to a judge, not you.
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Nope
It’s up to your doctor. It’s not a legal issue-it’s a medical issue.

“When applying for disability benefits through the Social Security Administration (SSA), you will need to present evidence showing that you have been unable to work for at least a 12-month period. You can help satisfy this burden by having your primary care doctor complete what Social Security calls a "medical source statement." (A medical source is a doctor, clinic, or other healthcare provider.)”

Fact is, if you are unvaccinated and are affected by the new upcoming OSHA directive you won’t get either unemployment or disability. You will get what you deserve, which is nothing at all but an infection.
You can stay home a lot, maybe find a new job where you can work from home. It’s not going to be easy for non compliant covidiots.
 
Ethel2 said:
This:

If you are vaccinated and become symptomatic you will get tested and self quarantine.
The vaccinated have done what they can.
The unvaccinated remain a menace.
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What if they are asymptomatic???

Maybe we treat the vaccinated the way you want the unvaccinated to be treated, since they both pose the same threat to you.

I can make all the same accusations against the vaccinated that you are making about the unvaccinated.
 
trouble13 said:
What if they are asymptomatic???

Maybe we treat the vaccinated the way you want the unvaccinated to be treated, since they both pose the same threat to you.

I can make all the same accusations against the vaccinated that you are making about the unvaccinated.
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Fact is, the vaccinated are much less likely to spread the virus for many reasons.
And at the very least they accepted their social responsibility and did what they could to help control the pandemic. There is no zero risk solution unless everyone stays home. Getting vaccinated is absolutely the best way to save lives and misery.
 
Ethel2 said:
Nope
It’s up to your doctor. It’s not a legal issue-it’s a medical issue.

“When applying for disability benefits through the Social Security Administration (SSA), you will need to present evidence showing that you have been unable to work for at least a 12-month period. You can help satisfy this burden by having your primary care doctor complete what Social Security calls a "medical source statement." (A medical source is a doctor, clinic, or other healthcare provider.)”

Fact is, if you are unvaccinated and are affected by the new upcoming OSHA directive you won’t get either unemployment or disability. You will get what you deserve, which is nothing at all but an infection.
You can stay home a lot, maybe find a new job where you can work from home. It’s not going to be easy for non compliant covidiots.
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You seriously need to stop, before you dig the hole your in any deeper. When you apply for disability, a doctor may consult the court, but it is a judge who decides.
 
Ethel2 said:
Fact is, the vaccinated are much less likely to spread the virus for many reasons.
And at the very least they accepted their social responsibility and did what they could to help control the pandemic. There is no zero risk solution unless everyone stays home. Getting vaccinated is absolutely the best way to save lives and misery.
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It might be the best way for you but that does not mean it's the best way for everyone. Nor does it entitle you to make that decision for anyone other than yourself. We do not need your permission to lead our lives as we see fit.

If you think I am infecting others with covid, prove it. Otherwise pound sand. I do not need your approval to live my life on my own terms.
 
trouble13 said:
It might be the best way for you but that does not mean it's the best way for everyone. Nor does it entitle you to make that decision for anyone other than yourself. We do not need your permission to lead our lives as we see fit.

If you think I am infecting others with covid, prove it. Otherwise pound sand. I do not need your approval to live my life on my own terms.
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Courageously defending the right to infect.
 
Fledermaus said:
Well, you are defending the right to be more likely to become infected and therefore more likely to spread to others.

Right?
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I am defending peoples right to make that determination for themselves, without your interference.
 
Fledermaus said:
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

You be triggered at being exposed for defending the right to defend?
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I'm not triggered. I was reminding you of the sentiment I had expressed to you n my prior post. Either you missed it or you intentionally ignored it. Either way it does not save your post from looking feeble.

trouble13 said:
If you think I am infecting others with covid, prove it. Otherwise pound sand. I do not need your approval to live my life on my own terms.
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trouble13 said:
It might be the best way for you but that does not mean it's the best way for everyone. Nor does it entitle you to make that decision for anyone other than yourself. We do not need your permission to lead our lives as we see fit.

If you think I am infecting others with covid, prove it. Otherwise pound sand. I do not need your approval to live my life on my own terms.
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It’s not me who is making the rules. It’s government and businesses.
I happen to agree with them. Blame them if you want to assign blame for what might happen to the covidiots.
 
Fledermaus said:
If your choice didn't have the potential to kill others I would agree with you.

However you continue to defend the right to infect.

That is on you.
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You know you sound like a pro-lifer. They wouldn't care what women did with their bodies, if it didn't involve harming another life.

Me, I don't care what anyone does with their body, as long as they don't try to tell me what I have to do with mine. Do you really want someone like me making decisions about your body for you???
 
Ethel2 said:
It’s not me who is making the rules. It’s government and businesses.
I happen to agree with them. Blame them if you want to assign blame for what might happen to the covidiots.
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If you agree with the rules than you are part of the group that's the problem.

The Gustopo like tactics may have worked on forcing some people to comply, but it isn't working on the rest of us. The more pressure your side exerts, the more resolute my side gets.
 
trouble13 said:
If you agree with the rules than you are part of the group that's the problem.

The Gustopo like tactics may have worked on forcing some people to comply, but it isn't working on the rest of us. The more pressure your side exerts, the more resolute my side gets.
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No, it’s the covidiots who are the problem. Since they can’t behave in public more and more rules and regulations are going to be put in place to force them to either behave properly or stay home. You can’t deny it’s happening. Businesses are going to require vaccination; restaurants are denying entry to the covidiots; so are gyms and sporting events and concerts.
You can say you won’t knuckle under but talk is cheap. Many say that but act differently. I have been in mobile vaccine clinics where people wanted to get vaccinated IN THEIR CARS so no one would see them doing it.
Covidiots are getting increasingly pressured and isolated.
You can’t reasonably deny this.
 
trouble13 said:
You know you sound like a pro-lifer. They wouldn't care what women did with their bodies, if it didn't involve harming another life.

Me, I don't care what anyone does with their body, as long as they don't try to tell me what I have to do with mine. Do you really want someone like me making decisions about your body for you???
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I care that you want the right to infect to supersede the rights of others to live.

A sick, sad, selfish mindset.
 
trouble13 said:
If you agree with the rules than you are part of the group that's the problem.

The Gustopo(sic) like tactics may have worked on forcing some people to comply, but it isn't working on the rest of us. The more pressure your side exerts, the more resolute my side gets.
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People who invoke the Gestapo are usually devoid of any actual argument.
 
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