[W:233] Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common

[Paradoxical]

It is highly suspicious that the MSM seem to be pushing the agenda of government / big tech control …one would almost think there is a tie up between the political / big business and media classes….classic fascism. The fact that non virus masks are put forward as working against virus spread is a blatant, unsupported lie that these powerful groups have pushed…exposing the fact that they are prepared to use propaganda to further their agenda.

The biggest threat from this pandemic is the response to it, the disease itself seems ( up to now) to be a relatively low threat especially since the vaccines lessen symptoms. I’m pretty sure now that this pandemic is a deliberate event designed to push certain agendas …even Covid fanatics must be starting to have doubts.

Myself, you, and many others here have asked these utter clowns and phonies for a year now what they mean by "masks work" and we either get silence or "They help slow the spread' and when you ask for the proof of WHERE "they helped slow the spread" we get crickets or we get an angry post that says some idiotic thing. We have pointed out to them ad naseum the fact that states with mask requirements fare no better and sometimes worse in DPM than those who dropped them and we get this crazy stuff that there are "variables" and when you ask for specifics and proof, we get people talking about vague things like population density in the cities of the mask demanding states and not mentioning that the states that DON'T require then also have densely populated cities.

This constant apologetic is like a Christian apologist trying to explain eternal torture for a nonbelief. Their excuses are now irritating and juvenile because the facts prove them all wrong.

 

[Fledermaus]

It is highly suspicious that the MSM seem to be pushing the agenda of government / big tech control …one would almost think there is a tie up between the political / big business and media classes….classic fascism. The fact that non virus masks are put forward as working against virus spread is a blatant, unsupported lie that these powerful groups have pushed…exposing the fact that they are prepared to use propaganda to further their agenda.

The biggest threat from this pandemic is the response to it, the disease itself seems ( up to now) to be a relatively low threat especially since the vaccines lessen symptoms. I’m pretty sure now that this pandemic is a deliberate event designed to push certain agendas …even Covid fanatics must be starting to have doubts.

More Conspiracy Theory talk.

 

[Fledermaus]

Myself, you, and many others here have asked these utter clowns and phonies for a year now what they mean by "masks work" and we either get silence or "They help slow the spread' and when you ask for the proof of WHERE "they helped slow the spread" we get crickets or we get an angry post that says some idiotic thing. We have pointed out to them ad naseum the fact that states with mask requirements fare no better and sometimes worse in DPM than those who dropped them and we get this crazy stuff that there are "variables" and when you ask for specifics and proof, we get people talking about vague things like population density in the cities of the mask demanding states and not mentioning that the states that DON'T require then also have densely populated cities.

This constant apologetic is like a Christian apologist trying to explain eternal torture for a nonbelief. Their excuses are now irritating and juvenile because the facts prove them all wrong.

Time to First Lie?

First sentence.

The reasons for wearing masks and the science have been presented ad nauseum.

 

[Fledermaus]

Covid cases plunge 30% week-on-week - with 36,389 new infections in last day

The UK has recorded 36,389 new coronavirus infections on Friday, a significant drop on the 51,870 recorded the same day last week - it comes as 1 in 75 people in England are testing positive for Covid

www.mirror.co.uk

From the article:

Despite the drop, experts have warned not to take the figures prematurely as the drop may be down to less testing for the virus as schools are shut.

Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the Norwich School of Medicine, University of East Anglia, said the week on week percentage increase in cases had also fallen from a peak of 43 per cent last Sunday to just 24 per cent on Thursday.

“But it is still too early to see any impact of the relaxations of Monday 19 and some of the reduction in cases will be because of many children no longer being tested as regularly now schools are closed," Professor Hunter said.

"We will start to have some idea towards the end of next week, but it won’t be until the August 9 before we know for certain.

“But there are some positive signs.”

The figures come as the Office for National Statistics (ONS) released new data revealing how infection rates are showing no signs of easing in England as 1 in 75 people are testing positive.

 

[Big Eye]

Gibraltar is very highly vaccinated…

 

[Big Eye]

More Conspiracy Theory talk.

The idea that there are other agendas built into this pandemic seems pretty ****ing obvious….

 

[Ethel2]

Gibraltar is very highly vaccinated…

Gibraltar hasn't had a covid death since March 1. Their vaccination program is an example of exactly how to do it. Whatever it is this country is doing we should adopt it. We can learn from the successes of other countries.

If we had no deaths in almost five months here there would be no need for the necessary mask mandates. We would be fully open without any restrictions at all. Nearly every comparable country in the world is managing this better than we are, and the blame as Kay Ivey stated, rests squarely on the shoulders of the unvaccinated covidiots. Biden needs to begin to tighten the screws; so do local health departments.

covid deaths in gibraltar - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[Ethel2]

The idea that there are other agendas built into this pandemic seems pretty ****ing obvious….

Sure. As long as you live in fantasy land, and alternate reality that is devoid of facts.

 

[Fledermaus]

The idea that there are other agendas built into this pandemic seems pretty ****ing obvious….

Gibraltar is very highly vaccinated…

Who said 100% vaccination = 0% COVID?

Got Strawman?

 

[Big Eye]

Gibraltar hasn't had a covid death since March 1. Their vaccination program is an example of exactly how to do it. Whatever it is this country is doing we should adopt it. We can learn from the successes of other countries.

If we had no deaths in almost five months here there would be no need for the necessary mask mandates. We would be fully open without any restrictions at all. Nearly every comparable country in the world is managing this better than we are, and the blame as Kay Ivey stated, rests squarely on the shoulders of the unvaccinated covidiots. Biden needs to begin to tighten the screws; so do local health departments.

covid deaths in gibraltar - Google Search

www.google.com

We were arguing about whether we should vaccinate kids to prevent infection…the vaccines obviously don’t stop infection as Gibraltar proves.

 

[Big Eye]

Sure. As long as you live in fantasy land, and alternate reality that is devoid of facts.

If you are unable to see how this pandemic suits certain players you’d have to be either blind or stupid…there are no other alternatives.

 

[Paradoxical]

Time to First Lie?

First sentence.

The reasons for wearing masks and the science have been presented ad nauseum.

Yes, yes, we know.....for coughs and sneezes. NEXT!!

 

[Big Eye]

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Who said 100% vaccination = 0% COVID?

Got Strawman?

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There are always conspiracies…there are always those that seek power and advantage in underhand ways…you’d have to be pretty ****ing stupid not to realise that.

The argument you’ve pushed is that vaccination will lower infection rates ….infection rates are higher than they were at some points when far less people were vaccinated.

 

[Fledermaus]

There are always conspiracies…there are always those that seek power and advantage in underhand ways…you’d have to be pretty ****ing stupid not to realise that.

The argument you’ve pushed is that vaccination will lower infection rates ….infection rates are higher than they were at some points when far less people were vaccinated.

Hmmmmmmmm

Lets see.

A new vastly more transmissible variant appears and what do you think the result would be?

What would the NON CONSPIRACY THEORY mind conclude

Yes, yes, we know.....for coughs and sneezes. NEXT!!

Incorrect.

Please continue to fail.

It is fun to watch.

 

[Ethel2]

We were arguing about whether we should vaccinate kids to prevent infection…the vaccines obviously don’t stop infection as Gibraltar proves.

Two different topics.
Vaccines won’t stop all infections. I never claimed they would. The infection rate after vaccination is about 5%. If 100% of a population is vaccinated then 100% of new infections will be in the vaccinated. If 95% are vaccinated then most of the new infections will be in the vaccinated. Surely you can comprehend that.
The vaccines are doing a spectacular job at reducing hospitalizations and deaths. That is undeniable to those living in the real world.

 

[Ethel2]

If you are unable to see how this pandemic suits certain players you’d have to be either blind or stupid…there are no other alternatives.

Of course some groups will profit from this pandemic. Morticians top the list. Pfizer will also profit and you know what? It’s worth every penny.

 

[Paradoxical]

Hmmmmmmmm

Lets see.

A new vastly more transmissible variant appears and what do you think the result would be?

What would the NON CONSPIRACY THEORY mind conclude


Incorrect.

Please continue to fail.

It is fun to watch.

Goalposts are moved by hordes of liberals every time their narrative is destroyed.

 

[Big Eye]

Hmmmmmmmm

Lets see.

A new vastly more transmissible variant appears and what do you think the result would be?

What would the NON CONSPIRACY THEORY mind conclude


Incorrect.

Please continue to fail.

It is fun to watch.

Vaccinations can not keep up with variants…some are even saying that the vaccinated are a perfect ground for variant production…

 

[Big Eye]

Two different topics.
Vaccines won’t stop all infections. I never claimed they would. The infection rate after vaccination is about 5%. If 100% of a population is vaccinated then 100% of new infections will be in the vaccinated. If 95% are vaccinated then most of the new infections will be in the vaccinated. Surely you can comprehend that.
The vaccines are doing a spectacular job at reducing hospitalizations and deaths. That is undeniable to those living in the real world.

It’s the numbers though…the actual infection numbers are as high and higher than they have been during lower vaccination times.

 

[Ethel2]

It’s the numbers though…the actual infection numbers are as high and higher than they have been during lower vaccination times.

There are many factors that determine case numbers. Compliance with mask mandates, social distancing, lockdowns all reduce case numbers. The delta variant, which increases viral load by a factor of a thousand absolutely increases the number of cases. The number of tests being done also affects case numbers.

 

[Big Eye]

Of course some groups will profit from this pandemic. Morticians top the list. Pfizer will also profit and you know what? It’s worth every penny.

BS…morticians are only slightly busier than normal during peak pandemic…now they are quieter than normal ( in the U.K.).

Pfizer ( and other Pharma) are setting themselves up as yearly suppliers of your life…and governments are setting themselves up as owners of your life.

 

[Big Eye]

There are many factors that determine case numbers. Compliance with mask mandates, social distancing, lockdowns all reduce case numbers. The delta variant, which increases viral load by a thousand absolutely increases the number of cases.

BS again…in the U.K. peak infections happened shortly before lockdowns. Non virus masks don’t have any effect in the spread of viruses. Social distancing merely delays infections.

 

[Fledermaus]

Vaccinations can not keep up with variants…

More rote ignorance in play.

some are even saying that the vaccinated are a perfect ground for variant production…

Some even say Elvis is alive.

They are just as wrong.

Back to previous accusations....

So, citation for the "disaster actor" thing?

And citation for the "More vaccinated people are dying of Covid in U.K. hospitals than non vaccinated."?

And as usual you still have not QUOTED THE LIE.

 

[Fledermaus]

It’s the numbers though…the actual infection numbers are as high and higher than they have been during lower vaccination times.

They dropped precipitously due to vaccination. Only to rise due to a far more transmissible variant.

 

[Ethel2]

BS…morticians are only slightly busier than normal during peak pandemic…now they are quieter than normal ( in the U.K.).

Pfizer ( and other Pharma) are setting themselves up as yearly suppliers of your life…and governments are setting themselves up as owners of your life.

Thats right. Pfizer and "government" are out to get you. Their main objective at all times is making more money even if its unethical.
Where do you get this crap? If its inside your head, I am sure glad you let it out.