Jesus never claimed to be God because he wasn't. He was a person. The half human, half god idea was meant to appeal to the pagans.
In a film, Bill Maher quoted a minister as comparing the Trinity to the three stages of water: ice, liquid and steam (although this metaphor is considered heretical by some Christians).
It was intentional. you have to remember that the JW's are a branch of arianism. It was a heresy to deny the divinity of Christ.
you will also realize that she will not post any source that are not JW's as she is not allowed to.
And , what evidence do you have that this is the case? What objective and tangible evidence do you have that 1) There are higher dimensional levels to begin with, and 2) If the higher dimentional levels exist, the concept of number have no relevance? Can you show this is something other than 'let's make things up'?
According to the bible, there is only one god, yet somehow the believers in the trinity seems to think that this god has three different persons, and are distinct as well.
Basic math will tell you that 1+1+1=3, yet trinitarians somehow think it is just one.
This so-called problem has been with Christianity since the very beginning of the religion and it has never been resolved. In fact, it is the reason why there are so many different denominations, its an inherent flaw that makes the trinity unworkable since it has no sound logical basis, and is therefore incompatible with the modern world and basic thinking in general.
The trinity can only work if you believe in 3 gods, and thats polytheism, not monotheism.
That is a lie...look again...:roll:
Youve already done that by being here. Do you have a counter argument to what Ive said at all?
Yes...you don't know what you're talking about. And I think you like it better that way. Now let the adults talk.
So god has a multiple personality disorder?
Taking your own advice would be a good idea.
I wouldn't care what they did if they didn't claim to be Christians, they are clearly not.
In a film, Bill Maher quoted a minister as comparing the Trinity to the three stages of water: ice, liquid and steam (although this metaphor is considered heretical by some Christians).
Yes...you don't know what you're talking about. And I think you like it better that way. Now let the adults talk.
God is a spirit and can manifest anyway that it see's fit to do so.
In the bible the holy spirit is seen as a dove or a fire.
God has manifested himself as fire other times as a traveler on a road.
you are trying to bind an omnipotent deity to your limited perception and it doesn't work.
It is someone who acts as an inbetween between two parties. An, no, it's not a misspell, it's an actual word.
Ah so you cant refute what I said and instead resort to making personal attacks. I guess nobody is surprised about that. Now are you actually going to stick to the topic or youre just going to be like yourself, as always?
And one he doesn't believe in anyway. It is impossible to explain how God works to someone doesn't believe in God. No matter what you say, they won't believe you. :shrug: In the meantime, our very own little angry atheist super friends club gets another troll thread.
The concept of a triune God is part of Christian faith for the majority of Christian denominations. It is nothing we can prove, merely something we believe. It really doesn't require justification beyond that - what justification can we offer? There is no logical backup, there is no picture in some FaceBook archive somewhere, there is no "scientific proof" of any of this. It is a passed down belief, and as such is not possible to be debated. We can explain our beliefs, but to do so for someone who merely wishes them committed to an anonymous forum thread for mocking is a pointless exercise.
Oh the irony.That was my refutation. You don't know what you're talking about, and you don't care to. Your premise isn't based on anything more than your own desire to troll. :shrug:
According to Judaism and Islam, a single god is indivisible, so once again youre wrong.But if you need it spelled out a little clearer, which I'm not sure why you would, since you don't care about the answer anyway, no, belief in a triune god is not polytheism, as can be seen simply in the language used: "a" - singular / "triune" - adjective, denoting three aspects in one - again, singular / "God".
I don't post to convince those that don't want to be.
there are those that do want to hear and the truth needs to be said.
Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lord's.
He is the beginning and the end.
He paved the way from death to life by his own doing and it is free gift for all that would ask.
He gives life to the lifeless, and hope to the hopeless.
He has saved me more times than I can count. He has blessed my life more times than i can count.
even though I walk through the valley of death I will fear no evil for he is with me.
We are here to proclaim the Good news that the rightful King sits on the thrown and all things are make right.
he heals the broken. Gives Grace when wrath is deserved, shows mercy and kindness to the wicked and righteous alike.
on these things they cannot debate. There is a reason that your testimony is a sword. While they can argue with the bible.
they cannot argue with your testimony.
There were so many times when i was younger and still working and busting my butt that we were like i just need 50 bucks to get me through
the week. sure enough i would get a call. hey can you come fix a computer issue for me? or someone else would need some work done on something.
he has always been there for me from when i moved from state to state to now. my only regret is that i did not seek him more than what i have.
Oh the irony.
I was debating someone who claimed that god has three personalities, so this isnt about me, if you want to start your own thread go ahead.
According to Judaism and Islam, a single god is indivisible, so once again youre wrong.
And if its three aspects, then a single god has three personalities- therefore a sign of mental illness. Most people with a basic education would have figured this out from my first reply.
Yup...your usual garbage. This is why I don't respond seriously to you. You're not worth it.
Ah so you cant refute me. Your surrender is noted.
Ah so you cant refute me. Your surrender is noted.
I don't need to look i have already done the research on this many many times.
You do not believe Christ to be God. Therefore Christ is not God but someone else.
This would in fact cause several huge theological issues with the way that you believe.
it is shown throughout the new testament that Christ himself allows people to worship him.
we can see clearly through out scripture that when a heavenly being was going to be worshiped
they correct the people doing it and told them to stop.
i posted you about 20 different verses that support Christs Deity and claims of who he is.
The watchtower forbids any reading of apostate material what they deem apostate material is any material they do not approve of.
i posted this in the forum straight from the watchtower site itself.
so no lie.
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