[W:#202]Sri Lankan factory manager lynched and set on fire in Pakistan

[Arlette]

Facts and the OP prove differently, nice try but that post is another swing and a miss. The posted bigotry in the OP has been thoroughly exposed and destroyed for the nonsense it is. LOL No amount of posted dodges, deflections, goalpost moving, strawmen or anything else is going to change that.

Right. If you worship a genocidal god you don't get to talk shit about other religions

 

[AGENT J]

Right. If you worship a genocidal god you don't get to talk shit about other religions

Well that would be hypocrisy but it doesn't really matter what a persons religion is or isn't, grouping people together in a bigoted fashion is simply wrong.

 

[Arlette]

Well that would be hypocrisy but it doesn't really matter what a persons religion is or isn't, grouping people together in a bigoted fashion is simply wrong.

Of course it is wrong. I think they like the hierarchy model better because it chives with their religion

 

[stevecanuck]

So you accept the fact that Christians and Islam share the same God. Why would that God sic his creation on each other?

That rhetorical question has exactly zero to do with this thread. You're pitching an 0-fer.

 

[stevecanuck]

I gave you the relevant verse for your condition

Which verse? Matthew 7:5? What on earth are you on about????

 

[stevecanuck]

Facts and the OP prove differently, nice try but that post is another swing and a miss. The posted bigotry in the OP has been thoroughly exposed and destroyed for the nonsense it is. LOL No amount of posted dodges, deflections, goalpost moving, strawmen or anything else is going to change that.

Okay. Name one "exposed and destroyed" fact from the OP. Just one.

 

[stevecanuck]

Right. If you worship a genocidal god you don't get to talk shit about other religions

Yet another nonsensical post from you. Please show where I said I believe in any god.

You have yet to post anything on target.

 

[stevecanuck]

Well that would be hypocrisy but it doesn't really matter what a persons religion is or isn't, grouping people together in a bigoted fashion is simply wrong.

Asked and answered in post #221.

The OP didn't do any grouping that wasn't self-described by the participants. It told a story of an atrocity carried out by people who are loud and proud about 'defending their religion'. People who do something in the name of a belief voluntarily and happily wear the mantle of said belief. To honor their desire by describing them by their belief is NOT "grouping".

 

[AGENT J]

Okay. Name one "exposed and destroyed" fact from the OP. Just one.

thats easy because what you posted was NOT fact, it was the bigotry that was in your op that got easily exposed and destroyed by people left right and center. Didnt even take 5 posts for that to happen, it happened in 3 LMAO

 

[AGENT J]

Asked and answered in post #221.

The OP didn't do any grouping that wasn't self-described by the participants. It told a story of an atrocity carried out by people who are loud and proud about 'defending their religion'. People who do something in the name of a belief voluntarily and happily wear the mantle of said belief. To honor their desire by describing them by their belief is NOT "grouping".

LMAO no matter how many times you make this claim, again Facts and the OP prove differently, nice try but that post is another swing and a miss. The posted bigotry in the OP has been thoroughly exposed and destroyed for the nonsense it is. No amount of posted dodges, deflections, goalpost moving, strawmen or anything else is going to change that.

 

[stevecanuck]

Of course it is wrong. I think they like the hierarchy model better because it chives with their religion

I'm not sure if it chives, but it definitely corianders.

 

[stevecanuck]

thats easy because what you posted was NOT fact, it was the bigotry that was in your op that got easily exposed and destroyed by people left right and center. Didnt even take 5 posts for that to happen, it happened in 3 LMAO

Not fact? So, this guy didn't get killed by a Muslims mob for insulting Islam? Wow, I could swear the article said he did.

 

[stevecanuck]

Okay, folks. Looks like this thread has permanently spiralled into a series of gratuitous denials, ad hominem attacks, deflections, non sequiturs, and strawmen. Everything except, well, you know, any actual rebuttal or debate.

So until that happens, I'll just let y'all flail away. And please, do NOT leave the final spot on the denier's bingo card unfilled - the time-tested "I accept your surrender". You will disappoint me greatly if you don't fill my card.

 

[AGENT J]

Not fact?

correct what you said was not a fact has proven by many
LOL

 

[AGENT J]

Okay, folks. Looks like this thread has permanently spiralled into a series of gratuitous denials, ad hominem attacks, deflections, non sequiturs, and strawmen. Everything except, well, you know, any actual rebuttal or debate.

agreed that certainly describes many of the contents of your posts and it didnt fool anybody we still saw and exposed the bigotry that was in the OP

 

[Arlette]

Not fact? So, this guy didn't get killed by a Muslims mob for insulting Islam? Wow, I could swear the article said he did.

and viola ^^^

 

[AGENT J]

Of course it is wrong.

yes i know

I think they like the hierarchy model better because it chives with their religion

who is they, what are you talking about and what does it have to do with my post or the exposed bigotry present in the OP?

 

[Arlette]

Eliyes i know

who is they, what are you talking about and what does it have to do with my post or the exposed bigotry present in the OP?

They are religious people in this country that believing Christianity should play a role in policy making

 

[AGENT J]

They are religious people in this country that believing Christianity should play a role in policy making

And what do those people have to do with anything I've said, individual extremists of that nature exist basically everywhere in many religions, races, genders, etc etc
Like I said it doesn't matter what a person's religion is or isn't grouping people and bigotry is wrong.

 

[Bullseye]

Sri Lankan factory manager lynched and set on fire in Pakistan

So, about that 'peaceful vast majority' that we keep hearing about.......

I don't recall anyone ever saying that about Pakistan.

 

[Peter King]

Moral cowardice.

That is not moral cowardice, that is called "thinking logically rather than generalizing with a huge anti muslim chip on my shoulder"

 

[Peter King]

Correct. There were two kinds of Mahomet. The meek and mild Mahomet in the first twelve fruitless years in Mecca. Not having the power of the sword, his preachings were different. Following the escape to Medina, and with the power of the sword now with him, Mahomet morphed into the tyrant and aggressive head of state. Oftentimes western apologists for Mahomet will refer to his preachings during the first twelve fruitless years in Mecca as examples of the pacifism of Islam. They forget that Islam embraces the doctrine of abrogation. And most of the meek and mild preachings of the early Mecca days had later on been abrogated by the more bellicose, militaristic doctrines of Medina






I have never understood this Islam exception from censure. Islam is a religio/political ideology like all others, and must be censured severely where its tenets and canons are afront to human dignity

- 66:9 "O Prophet! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them".
- 61:4 "Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure".
- 61:10 through 61:13 "Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? You shall believe in Allah and His Messenger, and struggle hard in Allah's way with your property and your lives. He will admit you to Gardens. and other things you love, help from God and a nigh victory".
- 48:16 "You shall be called against a people possessed of great might to fight them".
- 48:29 "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers".
- 5:33 "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified".
- 5:35 - "O ye who believe! ... strive in His way".
- 5:54 "mighty against the unbelievers, they shall strive hard in Allah's way".
- 9;5, "kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush".
- 9:13 "Will you not fight a people who have violated their oaths and intended to expel the Messenger, while they did attack you first".
- 9:14 "Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands".
- 9:16 "Do you think that you will be left (as you are) while Allah has not yet made evident those among you who strive (for His cause)".
- 9:19 "strives in the cause of Allah".
- 9:20 "The ones who have believed, emigrated and striven in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives".
- 9:29 "Fight against those who have been given the Scripture [Jews and Christians]".
- 9:30 "The Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah ... May Allah destroy them".
- 9:36 "Fight against the disbelievers".
- 9:38 "What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth?".
- 9:39 "If you do not go forth, He will punish you".
- 9:41 "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah".
- 9:44 "Those who believe in God and the Day of Judgment do not ask you whether they should fight for the cause of God".
- 9:45 "It is only those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and whose hearts are in doubt that ask your leave (to be exempted from Jihad)" [clarification added by Mohsin Khan translation].
- 9:52 "Can you expect for us (any fate) other than one of two glorious things- (Martyrdom or victory)?".
- 9:73 "O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them".
- 9:81 "they hated to strive and fight with their properties and their lives in the Cause of Allah''.
- 9:86 "Believe in Allah and strive hard along with His Messenger".
- 9:88 "But the messenger and those who believe with him strive with their wealth and their lives".
- 9:93 "The blameworthy ones are those who ask for exemption [from fighting] despite their ability".
- 9:111 "Surely Allah has bought from the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain".
- 9:123 "Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you".

The above were presented without context. If you have specific questions about any of these, I will be happy to give you the context.

ooh goodie, are we going to nitpick bible verses too? Or as the bible says (so I have been told:

Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

That's pretty much how it works in the Middle East.

According to General Mike Flynn, that's how it's setting up to work here as well.
The good General believes America must by needs have ONE religion, OR ELSE.
Or did someone miss the memo?

Michael Flynn calls for ‘one religion’ at event that is a who’s who of the new Christian right​

Speaking to the audience at Cornerstone, Flynn, who was subpoenaed recently by a House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol, said, “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”

And what about the "OR ELSE" part?
Well, Mr. Flynn's military career culminated with him as the 25th U.S. National Security Advisor, thus putting him in a position to lead an army...
in this case, an "Army of God", which translates almost directly to "HEZBOLLAH" in some cultures.

Try telling Hezbollah that you reject their religion.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Nazism also had a low crime rate.

Your definition of "crime" is pretty ****ed up, my friend.
The Reich owes my family 25 million Marks in gold, about 430 million today.
We will never see a dime of it.

 

[stevecanuck]

According to General Mike Flynn, that's how it's setting up to work here as well.
The good General believes America must by needs have ONE religion, OR ELSE.
Or did someone miss the memo?

Michael Flynn calls for ‘one religion’ at event that is a who’s who of the new Christian right​

Speaking to the audience at Cornerstone, Flynn, who was subpoenaed recently by a House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol, said, “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”

And what about the "OR ELSE" part?
Well, Mr. Flynn's military career culminated with him as the 25th U.S. National Security Advisor, thus putting him in a position to lead an army...
in this case, an "Army of God", which translates almost directly to "HEZBOLLAH" in some cultures.

Try telling Hezbollah that you reject their religion.

Oopsy, you've wandered into the wrong thread.