And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
Awww...wanna tissue?And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
Thoughts and/or prayers.And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
Thoughts and/or prayers.
Putin's recent nuclear saber rattling may change that.And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
Yet I haven't seen one word on the topic outside my post except a post from Ataraxia. It may have been one of the topics raises in the article I posted about that seemed to get no actual discussion.Putin's recent nuclear saber rattling may change that.
Eliminating nuclear weapons is on of the reasons Ukraine is under attack right now.And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
That's a misunderstanding of the topic. I'm talking about universal elimination, not unilateral.Eliminating nuclear weapons is on of the reasons Ukraine is under attack right now.
Yeah that ship has sailed a long time ago.Probably because there is a better chance of the apes taking over the planet than eliminating nuclear weapons
That's a misunderstanding of the topic. I'm talking about universal elimination, not unilateral.
It is, despite big obstacles. In fact, it's our official policy.That's simply not realistic.
It is, despite big obstacles. In fact, it's our official policy.
Here follows a quasi-hysterical rant.
There is a photo and story in my local paper, the SF Chronicle, today. "Putin stirs nuclear war fears with alert," says the front page headline. Inside, the story continues with a photo and an account of medics trying in vain to revive a 6-year old girl injured in the shelling in Ukraine. One doc looked at a camera recording the scene and said, "show this to Putin." Indeed, and show it to Tucker Carlson as well. The article and picture brought several things to my mind. First was what a midieval Pope said to war mongers of his day, that "not even the beasts of the forest form in battle array." The other was the old 1960s poster, which read, "war is not healthy for children and other living things." But mostly the story made me recall the ending of the first "Planet of the Apes" film, when the Charlton Heston character discovers that he was on earth all the time, and the apes with whom he fought were right to treat humans like the beasts we often are. His coming upon the wreckage of the Statue of Liberty on a beach lets him know where he is and what has happened. The final words are "Damn them. God damn them to hell."
And yet my thread on how the most important lesson of this crisis is the need to eliminate nuclear weapons got basically no response.
You're misguided on this.It's a textbook example of trying to get the genie back in the bottle. We need to focus our efforts on rendering nukes ineffective, not wasting time on what is never going to happen
What's missing from your post is any rational argument about why it's not possible. Man invented them. Man limits their proliferation. And man can eliminate them.Basically no response because there's no way to achieve that.
If you think there's a way to eliminate nuclear weapons, by all means please share because from what I can tell, that's like wishing
we could all have a pony.
I saw the thread, I read it.
And I shook my head slowly without even realizing it...a reflex to impossible wishes.
You're misguided on this.
Let's start with your genie back in the bottle. Then I guess we should abandon all non-proliferation efforts, and just accept that everyone in the world can have nukes, right? The genie is out of the bottle, no containment can be done.
No, there is nothing preventing the world from eliminating nuclear weapons I know of. There are great obstacles to it, but it can be done.
Second, you can't prove it's possible to render them effective; and you can't predict what happens if we try. Remember when the US threat to do so raised tensions to threats of using nuclear weapons before they became useless? Who's to say a country doesn't develop that technology and then become a tyrant over the world as the sole nuclear power? That's why Reagan promised to share it, however hollow the promise.
We can make a case for doing both - trying to eliminate them and develop counter-measures supposedly given to the word. But trying to eliminate them is a good idea.
What's missing from your post is any rational argument about why it's not possible. Man invented them. Man limits their proliferation. And man can eliminate them.
I'll keep that in mind when some of the Talibiden praise one of senile Joe's speechesDon't credit Heston, he read words that writers wrote.
Oh, look who can't understand the difference between a movie, and the real world.I'll keep that in mind when some of the Talibiden praise one of senile Joe's speeches
They say politics is the art of the possible.
With all good intentions I suggest that if this is YOUR position ("we must eliminate nuclear weapons") then it falls to you to explain how such an undertaking would
come to pass.
I'd love to support any effort in that direction but there's still .... what... another dozen or so countries you have to convince.
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