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Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

APACHERAT said:
I spent the fist six months of 1970 based out of Hoi An which was the TAR of the ROK Marines Blue Dragon's Brigade. Care to explain why the South Koreans also used the term gook when referring to the NVA and VC ?
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not sure of the unit, but I met some ROK Marines in Chu Lai.. what you say is true.. they called Charles gook quite a bit.... hell, everybody did.

around 1978 or 79, we got a new SSgt in fresh from the drill field.. named Danny Nguyen.
we were swappin' Nam fishin' stories over a beer and he says "careful... if you call me a gook, i'll **** you up".. so I say " whatever you say, slope"...the lil' bastard tackled me in the E-club and started wailing on me :lol:
he's still a good friend to this day.. helluva guy...stellar marine.
 

I'm familiar with Monkey Mountain only because I could see it from Marble Mountain, I could see all of the antennas and radars and I was told there was a Marine Hawk SAM battery on the mountain.

Meet King Rat of Monkey Mountain:
 

I was a HAWKer back then.. 5923... you were given the straight scoop.
I showed up in country 1 year after this pic was taken..Jan '70
 

Had to be the same ROK Marines I was attached to in Hoai An, 2nd ROK Marine Brigade (Blue Dragons) Bad mother ####### and they knew it.

I use to watch the some of the aircraft that had heavy bomb loads take off from Chu Lia using the rocket assist JATO packs. Pretty cool.

When were you in-country ?
 
7Jan70- 17July71
 

Precisely. Being a smart and tough murderous bastard does not make one good.
 

Why would one expect to hear about PTSD from an enemy country? Why would the communists have even studied or paid attention to it?
 
American said:
Why would one expect to hear about PTSD from an enemy country? Why would the communists have even studied or paid attention to it?
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What did the Vietnamese ever do to you?
 
American said:
Go try that trick on someone who'll fall for it.
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Why is it a trick? Unless you served in the conflict probably nothing.

But if you can't answer then nevermind.
 
Crosscheck said:
Why is it a trick? Unless you served in the conflict probably nothing.

But if you can't answer then nevermind.
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Buddy, you obviously didn't understand what I wrote with a question like that. So why don't you go study it for a while. Don't assume I can't answer, when you ask an irrelevant question.
 

Then why did we forsake the moral high ground and commit the atrocity?
 
apdst said:
You Leftists need to SERIOUSLY become more informed.



My Lai was the act of one rogue platoon. Dak Son and Hue were the result of official Communist policy.
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What makes the United States different than the communist regimes is that we are supposed to make our "rouge platoons" be held accountable for their actions.
 
Does this mean my wife needs to look for another place to get her nails done?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Then why did we forsake the moral high ground and commit the atrocity?
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How did we forsake the high ground? Major difference when ones leaders aren't advocating to commit atrocities wouldn't you say?

Any of our people will be brought for our own laws. Can't say the same for them.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
What makes the United States different than the communist regimes is that we are supposed to make our "rouge platoons" be held accountable for their actions.
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And, they were...
 
apdst said:
WE didn't.
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The only one's who did not forsake the moral high ground was Hugh Thompson jr., the helicopter pilot who landed his helicopter in between a group of soldiers and the Veitnamese. He helped stop the massacre but I bet you think diffrently since he had to level his helicopters machine guns on the solders in order to intimidate them and keep them from commiting murder.
 

Summary executions are not only a crime in the military, they're unconstitutional. Had he opened fire, he would have been guilty of murder.

You don't get to break the law, just because someone else is breaking the law.

The difference you can't seem to realize, is that what took place at My Lai and My Khe wasn't a matter of official policy. The Communists, on the other hand had an official policy in place that called for the murder of innocent civilians. To date, no one in the North has ever been tried, much less convicted of the war crimes that were commited during the war.

Thats not even the ****ed up part. The ****ed up part, is that there are Americans that acrually defend those pieces of ****.
 
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