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Venezuela-Do you approve of USA interference in Venezuelan Politics?

Venezuela-Eo you approve of USA interference in Venezuelan Politics?

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Fledermaus said:
Venezuela cannot sell their oil?

Since when?

Citgo is majority owned by the Venezuelan STATE.... Venezuela has tried to sell off the venture for almost a decade now. Even the Russians won't touch it.

And the sanctions started 2014.

Venezuela started it's free fall long before then.
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DaveFagan said:
That is an admission that Maduro is elected.

Everytime you refer to Maduro as a "dictator" you reveal a total submission to a false MSM/NeoCon narrative. Some would say "brainwashed," others braindead, but that's just semantics.
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Sure, that's why this morning the UN demanded an investigation into Maduro's ordered protest killings. Your own political agenda is taking precedence over reality. No matter how a despot attained office, does not make for less of a despot.

Cry for me, Venezuela.
 
Fledermaus said:
"And how to you address the fact that when he lost a majority to the opposition in the National Assembly he just created another one to do his bidding, arrested opposition leaders and has used torture and mass arrests to stifle dissent?"

Does getting 60% of the vote excuse the above?
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The HOUSE didn't get to vote to overturn Trump after it was overturned. The people spoke for Maduro in May 2018!
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Fledermaus said:
Plenty of dictators were elected.

Elected does not mean one cannot be a dictator.
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When one is elected, he is not referred to as a dictator, except by nefarious sources to defame that individual. It is wrong, incorrect and inaccurate and fits you perfectly.
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DaveFagan said:
The HOUSE didn't get to vote to overturn Trump after it was overturned. The people spoke for Maduro in May 2018!
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TRUMP CARD. Rejected. Prattle about Trump elsewhere.

You still haven't addressed the fact when he lost a majority to the opposition in the National Assembly he just created another one to do his bidding

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he arrested opposition leaders.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he has used torture and mass arrests to stifle dissent.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?
 
DaveFagan said:
When one is elected, he is not referred to as a dictator, except by nefarious sources to defame that individual. It is wrong, incorrect and inaccurate and fits you perfectly.
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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Plenty of dictators were elected.

Elected does not mean one cannot be a dictator.

Does it have to have "Dictator" on the ballot to be official?
 
DaveFagan said:
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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The Company line... What?

Venezuela cannot sell their oil?

Is or is not CITGO a majority Venezuelan state company?

Is or is not CITGO (a majority Venezuelan state company) on the sellers block for nearly a decade?

Did or did not the decline begin before the sanctions?

It appears all you have are talking points.
 
Fledermaus said:
Plenty of dictators were elected.

Elected does not mean one cannot be a dictator.

Does it have to have "Dictator" on the ballot to be official?
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"Dictator" "Brainwashing" relativity.
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DaveFagan said:
"Dictator" "Brainwashing" relativity.
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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Dictator is as Dictator does.

You still haven't addressed the fact when he lost a majority to the opposition in the National Assembly he just created another one to do his bidding

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he arrested opposition leaders.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he has used torture and mass arrests to stifle dissent.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?
 
Fledermaus said:
Dictator is as Dictator does.

You still haven't addressed the fact when he lost a majority to the opposition in the National Assembly he just created another one to do his bidding

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he arrested opposition leaders.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he has used torture and mass arrests to stifle dissent.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?
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The USA House of Representatives changed to control of the opposition and no changes at the Executive level.
Swallow the turd. Maduro is legitimate and elected and not a dictator.
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Prime example of why we should not be interfering in other countries politics. If you google CIA and coups, it's a long sad list. The earth sadly is such a violent place to live and it's the people with the power that allow it to be that way. Money baby, if I can make money in some country because they are killing each other over who owns the coke bottle that fell out of the sky, great, I'll sell them all the arms they could ever want.
 
DaveFagan said:
The USA House of Representatives changed to control of the opposition and no changes at the Executive level.
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TRUMP CARD. Rejected. Prattle about Trump elsewhere.

DaveFagan said:
Swallow the turd. Maduro is legitimate and elected and not a dictator.
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Plenty of dictators were elected. TRUE.

Elected does not mean one cannot be a dictator. TRUE.

Does it have to have "Dictator" on the ballot to be official? SARCASM.

DaveFagan said:
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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You still haven't addressed the fact when he lost a majority to the opposition in the National Assembly he just created another one to do his bidding

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he arrested opposition leaders.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he has used torture and mass arrests to stifle dissent.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?
 
Fledermaus said:
TRUMP CARD. Rejected. Prattle about Trump elsewhere.



Plenty of dictators were elected. TRUE.

Elected does not mean one cannot be a dictator. TRUE.

Does it have to have "Dictator" on the ballot to be official? SARCASM.



You still haven't addressed the fact when he lost a majority to the opposition in the National Assembly he just created another one to do his bidding

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he arrested opposition leaders.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?

You still haven't addressed the fact he has used torture and mass arrests to stifle dissent.

Pretty damn dictatorial dontcha think?
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Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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DaveFagan said:
When one is elected, he is not referred to as a dictator, except by nefarious sources to defame that individual. It is wrong, incorrect and inaccurate and fits you perfectly.
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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Both Mussolini and Hitler were elected.
 
I said no...the US can't even get it's own **** together, they need to stop stumbling around like a drunk frat boy, messing up the rest of the world too.

If Venezuela needs saving, send the UN. America needs to sleep it off for a few decades.
 
DaveFagan said:
The USA sanctioned the only economic life source of the Venezuela economy and CITGO in the USA. You, Me, and Grandma have caused the current poverty, driven with those objective intentions, in Venezuela. USA specializes in destabilization i.e. Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq, etc. It is undeniable. Swallow that turd!
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Sorry bud, nobody’s buying your incoherent rambling and desperate attempt to defend a brutal and incompetent thug.
 
DaveFagan said:
The Republicans lost the majority in the House, but you don't see any change at the executive level. Just a charade. Venezuelans voted for and elected Chavez 7 times to include his policis to develop a Bolivarian Republic and Maduro is elected, not a dictator, May 2018 with 60% of the popular vote to continue Chavez's policies. I repeat, the USA sanctions, imposted by Obama, have killed the one horse Venezuelan economy to create poverty for its' citizenry and that is/was the plan. We are causing poverty. You, me and Grandma. You sound proud of it.
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The only charade going on here is your apologism for a brutal dictatorship that has destroyed its own country to maintain power.
 
Fledermaus said:
Ummmm

Your problem with the truth is that you don't recognize it.
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Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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DaveFagan said:
Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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The Company line = Reality.

Sorry. That just is.

So far the only one completely clueless as to the condition in Venezuela appears to be you.

You support dictatorial strong men any where as long as they oppose the US.

Why do you support people who screw their own people simply because of a difference in political ideology?
 
Fledermaus said:
The Company line = Reality.

Sorry. That just is.

So far the only one completely clueless as to the condition in Venezuela appears to be you.

You support dictatorial strong men any where as long as they oppose the US.

Why do you support people who screw their own people simply because of a difference in political ideology?
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Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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DaveFagan said:
Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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Poor DaveFagan....

Didn't do even the basic research into Venezuela's woes beyond some article in RT that blamed the US.....

Face it. You ain't seen the ball since kickoff.

What was formerly Latin America's richest country was already failing before the sanctions and all you can do is "Pete and Repeat"....
 
DaveFagan said:
A simple question?

Do you approve of USA interference in Venezuelan Politics?

Starting with OBAMA, sanctions against Venezuela have caused extreme poverty there.
Venezuela is a Socialist Nation a/k/a Bolivarian Republic.
Maduro is elected in May 2018 with a 60% najority.
Does the USA have any right to cause poverty and chaos in Venezuela?

YES!
NO!
Other and please explain!
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OTHER

The OP is flawed, inaccurate and blames the wrong people.

Thread fail.
 
Fledermaus said:
Poor DaveFagan....

Didn't do even the basic research into Venezuela's woes beyond some article in RT that blamed the US.....

Face it. You ain't seen the ball since kickoff.

What was formerly Latin America's richest country was already failing before the sanctions and all you can do is "Pete and Repeat"....
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Pete and repeat, that's you
Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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DaveFagan said:
Pete and repeat, that's you
Your problems with the truth are noted, but your steadfast mouthing noted for
The Company line, I presume. DoD BOT!
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DaveFagan, only one of us is actually thinking before posting.

Take a look at all the posts that actually address Venezuela. You will see various people from various walks of life that recognize the same thing.

The failure in Venezuela isn't of the US's making.

You are indeed an 'Army of One' steeped in your own ignorance of the subject.

You can't handle the truth hence your repetitious non-responses to my posts.
 
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