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Vegetarians Live Longer Than Meat-Eaters, Study Finds

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Vegetarians Live Longer Than Meat-Eaters, Study Finds - WSJ.com

Vegetarians live longer than meat-eaters, according to a study published Monday in JAMA Internal Medicine, a Journal of the American Medical Association.
The authors tracked 73,308 members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church for almost six years. The church is known for promoting a vegetarian diet, though not all of its followers adhere to that teaching. Researchers found out what type of diet participants ate, then followed up to find out how many of those participants had died and how. Vegetarians in the study experienced 12% fewer deaths over the period. Dietary choices appeared to play a big role in protecting the participants from heart disease, from which vegetarians were 19% less likely to die than meat-eaters.
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Graffias said:
Vegetarians Live Longer Than Meat-Eaters, Study Finds - WSJ.com
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One must decide if living 4 to 10 years longer (on average) is actually a net plus considering the affect that would have on Social Security. The vegetarian aspect is only part of the dietary/lifestyle changes involved - the lack of alcohol, tobacco and caffine are also included. Those in the control group that eat meat are also likely to bend the rules concerning these other restrictions.

Nobody is less likely to die, since all will eventually, and the added years of life are generally after retirement.
 
Yes, but they're a lot more miserable because they can't eat the tasty, tasty meat. Chicken. Fish... pork... rabbit... mhm... rabbit...
 
I was a vegetarian for over 4 years, just recently going back on the meat in the summer of 2013.

Since returning to meat eating I've displayed many problematic symptoms. Dry skin, weight gain, digestive issues, lack of energy, mood swings, acne(I'm well past my teens)... Some minor some quite unsettling.

I'm only eating maybe 3 meals a week that contain meat now, but am gonna cut that down to about 1 every ten days or so...
 
Once you reach the age of misery adding more years to it only adds more time to suffer.
 
What a bunch of nonsense. I'm sorry, but I've never in my life met or heard of anyone over 100 that was a vegetarian for longer than a couple years in their life.
 
ChezC3 said:
I was a vegetarian for over 4 years, just recently going back on the meat in the summer of 2013.

Since returning to meat eating I've displayed many problematic symptoms. Dry skin, weight gain, digestive issues, lack of energy, mood swings, acne(I'm well past my teens)... Some minor some quite unsettling.

I'm only eating maybe 3 meals a week that contain meat now, but am gonna cut that down to about 1 every ten days or so...
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Meat isn't for everyone. Also, it could be other things you are eating. Processed foods including meat contains all kinds of chemicals and crap. If you eat junk food, with sugar in it that too could be a culprit. Could be you are allergic to dairy or to eggs.
 
Whose in the mood for bacon?
 
The only thing that outnumbers the great flavor aspects of meat, is the number of ignored extenuating circumstances in the study.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
One must decide if living 4 to 10 years longer (on average) is actually a net plus considering the affect that would have on Social Security. The vegetarian aspect is only part of the dietary/lifestyle changes involved - the lack of alcohol, tobacco and caffine are also included. Those in the control group that eat meat are also likely to bend the rules concerning these other restrictions.

Nobody is less likely to die, since all will eventually, and the added years of life are generally after retirement.
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There've been numerous studies showing that Mormons, in general, tend to live longer than others.

Mormons observe dietary standards similar to those of Seventh Day Adventists, but do not generally practice vegetarianism.

I do not think that it is valid to assume that vegetarianism is the reason why Seventh Day Adventists have longer lifespans, based on a general comparison between Seventh Day Adventist lifespans and non-SDA lifespans. Alcohol and tobacco surely have much more impact on lifespan than vegetarianism ever could.


Now, if there was a study that compared Seventh Day Adventists to Mormons, and was able to establish that vegetarianism is the only meaningful difference between these groups as far as health and lifespan is concerned, then you'd have a valid basis on which to evaluate the impact of vegetarianism alone.
 
ChezC3 said:
I was a vegetarian for over 4 years, just recently going back on the meat in the summer of 2013.

Since returning to meat eating I've displayed many problematic symptoms. Dry skin, weight gain, digestive issues, lack of energy, mood swings, acne(I'm well past my teens)... Some minor some quite unsettling.

I'm only eating maybe 3 meals a week that contain meat now, but am gonna cut that down to about 1 every ten days or so...
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You will. you can't just go back to eating raw protean like that. it will create all the symptoms that you claim.
if you want to go back to eating meat you have to slowly introduce it back into your diet so that your system can learn to start processing it again.
 
This study is non-convincing.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Meat isn't for everyone. Also, it could be other things you are eating. Processed foods including meat contains all kinds of chemicals and crap. If you eat junk food, with sugar in it that too could be a culprit. Could be you are allergic to dairy or to eggs.
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My diet didn't change with the exception of adding meat. Don't get me wrong,every blue moon I'll splurge on a gyros, but 99% of my consumption is clean cuts...and before I went meat free I ate like a goat...anything and everything, I never went back to buying processed meats at the grocer, i.e. sausage pizza, chicken tenders, etc... It ain't the dairy or eggs as I consumed those all the while, I was a vegetarian not a vegan...(all them blasted labels, just keeping it simple)
 
ludin said:
You will. you can't just go back to eating raw protean like that. it will create all the symptoms that you claim.
if you want to go back to eating meat you have to slowly introduce it back into your diet so that your system can learn to start processing it again.
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I did, started with ground beef, than chicken, than steak, but it just don't sit with me well anymore...
 
ChezC3 said:
I did, started with ground beef, than chicken, than steak, but it just don't sit with me well anymore...
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It will it will just take a long time to do through the process. I would stay away from hard proteins like beef or steak. i would introduce fish and chicken first.
they do not have the same protein structure and are generally lighter.

i was on project with a guy that was going through the same thing. he had been a vegan for like years and well in costa rica meat is a staple in their diet. he had
all sorts of problems.

i would start with fish first the move to chicken. it is going to take a few months to reintroduce it back in. to much and you are going to feel sick. you are shocking your system.
 
ludin said:
It will it will just take a long time to do through the process. I would stay away from hard proteins like beef or steak. i would introduce fish and chicken first.
they do not have the same protein structure and are generally lighter.

i was on project with a guy that was going through the same thing. he had been a vegan for like years and well in costa rica meat is a staple in their diet. he had
all sorts of problems.

i would start with fish first the move to chicken. it is going to take a few months to reintroduce it back in. to much and you are going to feel sick. you are shocking your system.
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I don't know if you read in my op, but I've been back flesh eating since last summer, it has been almost a year, and I just can't take it any more...back to cruelty free for me..

but I appreciate you taking the time to coach...
 
ChezC3 said:
I don't know if you read in my op, but I've been back flesh eating since last summer, it has been almost a year, and I just can't take it any more...back to cruelty free for me..

but I appreciate you taking the time to coach...
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yep but you have been a vegetarian for 4 years. 1 year isn't long enough. it will get better, but it is going to take a very long time.
 
ChezC3 said:
My diet didn't change with the exception of adding meat. Don't get me wrong,every blue moon I'll splurge on a gyros, but 99% of my consumption is clean cuts...and before I went meat free I ate like a goat...anything and everything, I never went back to buying processed meats at the grocer, i.e. sausage pizza, chicken tenders, etc... It ain't the dairy or eggs as I consumed those all the while, I was a vegetarian not a vegan...(all them blasted labels, just keeping it simple)
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I am a firm believer that one size does not fit all. The EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR BODY TYPE diet makes sense to me. I once tried being raw food, vegetarian and then vegan. Never happen, bro. Not long term. It isn't in me to do it. I like salads and some veggies. I really like the food at vegetarian restaurants. Can I do it full time? Naw, I can't. Count 60 days of me eating raw/vegetarian/vegan and I'll eat the ass off an elk. I'm cool with the fact that other people feel the exact opposite. I can dig that and I have no problems with it.
 
Graffias said:
What will it take to convince you?
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Multiple studies showing the same result, that are published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, and studies that have much more scientific rigor than the one in the OP.
 
I don't understand people who hate meat.

I mean, I get that too much meat isn't good for you, and that is true. When I was growing up, I was taught that the average weekly intake of meat should be between 100-150g/day for men, I can't remember how much for women, and that you should not eat meat 1 day a week, on friday -> but that may have been a religious thing "don't eat meat on friday".
 
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