Torture for confession does not work, but for information it does. Just ask the mob.
Torture for confession does not work, but for information it does. Just ask the mob.
Actually it's exactly the opposite. You can get people to confess to whatever bull**** you want, even things they didn't do, but any information you get is suspect. People will say anything to get the pain to stop, they'll roll over on friends and family who never did anything wrong in their life. Ask any CIA interrogation types.
Actually it's exactly the opposite. You can get people to confess to whatever bull**** you want, even things they didn't do, but any information you get is suspect. People will say anything to get the pain to stop, they'll roll over on friends and family who never did anything wrong in their life. Ask any CIA interrogation types.
I think the premise is stupid and the torture described over-the-top just to get a rise out of folks, especially those who support enhanced techniques. I'd have simply water boarded the guy and found out what needed to be known in ten minutes.
The man was being water boarded in the beginning and it wasn't working.
I would have simply kept it up. The technique is very reliable, especially with ice cold water.
People, this isn't a debate about what torture technique works and what doesn't, it's more about if extreme torture is warranted in a doomsday scenario that could kill millions. Saying the premise is stupid is not really answering the question.
It's NEVER ok to torture. For any reason. Period.
People, this isn't a debate about what torture technique works and what doesn't, it's more about if extreme torture is warranted in a doomsday scenario that could kill millions. Saying the premise is stupid is not really answering the question.
B - Just because Bush signed a piece of paper saying that certain techniques were not torture but 'enhanced interrogation' doesn't make it any more legal or right. Can a bank manager sign a paper that would allow him to come into the bank on the weekend and empty the safe and bring it to his own house??Well let me rephrase it, would you:
A) Use torture, a technique that is slower and less reliable then legal interogation, comprimises our morals, and makes us look weak to the world, or would you
B) Use legal interogation methods, save millions of lives, keep our morals, and look strong in the eyes of the world?
Seems like a simple answer to me.
Did I catch that right... that you believe the premise is stupid and torture is bad but you'd have water-boarded him into submission??
Whether or not the premise is stupid is irrelevant. Play the game and answer the question.
It's been answered. Doing something ineffective is hardly doing what is best. Other methods are simply more effective. There is no reason to torture other than simply wanting to torture someone. And that is before we even get into the moral issue. Like I said before, these arguments are no different than brutal regimes denounced by us make. Do we really wnat to be more like them, or less? I suggest we need to be very different from them.
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