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UN court judge quits The Hague citing political interference

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Yet again America acting like a rogue state, under Trump America is a big bully, Turkey is also involved ... that is to be expected of Turkey



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 https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/jan/28/international-criminal-court-icc-judge-christoph-flugge-quits-citing-political-interference-trump-administration-turkey

 

You know the character Alonzo in the movie Training Day?

That's what America is like on the world stage.
 

Oh you mean, if the UN thinks it can begin to criminalize war with made up rules by made up judges, then yeah, I can support the US and any other nation that says .. Um, nope, we're not going to go along with that"...


Tim-
 

Good for the US in protecting our troops from un-elected non-US judges.
 

Going after US troops is the political interference.
 
You know the character Alonzo in the movie Training Day?

That's what America is like on the world stage.

Are you saying that The United States should ignore The Constitution and hand over US citizens to an unconstitutional court?

**** that and **** that judge, too.
 
Are you saying that The United States should ignore The Constitution and hand over US citizens to an unconstitutional court?

**** that and **** that judge, too.

Yeah, I love that kind of stuff.
 
Are you saying that The United States should ignore The Constitution and hand over US citizens to an unconstitutional court?

**** that and **** that judge, too.

The constitution does not grant Americans immunity from prosecution for crimes they commit in other nations.
 
The constitution does not grant Americans immunity from prosecution for crimes they commit in other nations.

The Hague isn't a court in another nation.
 
The Hague isn't a court in another nation.

It's an international court that's part of the UN charter. You know that, right? It's a court, and it's not in the US. What, do you think it's on Mars?
 
It's an international court that's part of the UN charter. You know that, right? It's a court, and it's not in the US. What, do you think it's on Mars?

It's a court that The United States doesn't recognize. You know that. Right?
 
Someone on the left help me out. I can't find the section of the US Constitution giving jurisdiction to a world court. What article or amendment is that?
 
The constitution does not grant Americans immunity from prosecution for crimes they commit in other nations.

Nor does it allow Americans within the USA to be subjected to foreign jurisdictions.
 
It's a court that The United States doesn't recognize. You know that. Right?

I think the overarching discussion is that we should.
 
Someone on the left help me out. I can't find the section of the US Constitution giving jurisdiction to a world court. What article or amendment is that?

Jurisdiction over what? Crimes committed in Afghanistan? No, the US Constitution definitely does not do that.
 
Jurisdiction over what? Crimes committed in Afghanistan? No, the US Constitution definitely does not do that.

The government of Afghanistan could issue a warrant. Whether the USA would honor it and extradite the person is another matter. There is nothing in the Constitution allowing a 'world court" to arrest an American for anything ever regardless of where the claimed crime occurred.

One of the never mentioned good things about electing Trump is the turning over of US sovereignty to the UN was stopped. The Obama team was pursuing outlawing private ownership of firearms thru "treaties" with the United Nations to do so, as one example.
 

So you think extradition treaties are unconstitutional? Yeah, go ahead and bring that to the supreme court.
 
I think the overarching discussion is that we should.

If the ICC adhered to The Constitution, we probably would. I don't think that would happen, because I can't see the ICC giving American citizens a trial before a jury of the citizen's peers. How would that even work?

The United States is constitutionally bound to protect the civil rights of every United States citizen. Signing onto the ICC would be a violation of that constitutional duty.

And before you start whining about how The Constitution doesn't say that:

 

The constitution doesn't apply to crimes in Afghanistan. You think extradition treaties are unconstitutional, you should go challenge them in court.
 
The constitution doesn't apply to crimes in Afghanistan. You think extradition treaties are unconstitutional, you should go challenge them in court.

The Constitutiom applies to United States citizens.
 
The Constitutiom applies to United States citizens.

You can claim a worldwide right to bear arms but if you try and cross into North Korea with a rifle you're gonna get killed.
 
You can claim a worldwide right to bear arms but if you try and cross into North Korea with a rifle you're gonna get killed.

Irrelevant
 
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