You have provided right wing links and blogs that (as Andablue showed) do not tell the whole story because it does not fit into the little world they are in. Yes there are many webpages claiming bias, and they are all run by the same type of people. People who have a political grudge against the BBC based on old time ideas of what the BBC is, and of course the usual rable of what we are not allowed to talk about in these sub-forums anymore.
So any criticism of the BBC are from (gasp!!) right wing links and the people who write of BBC bias live in little worlds. They have a political grudge and are of the usual rabble and are guilty of the sin which cannot be named. Well that certainly suggests an open mind.
You do know that the BBC is still the biggest news organisation on the planet right?
Yes, I know that, and all paid for by the British taxpayer. So what the BBC says reflects on Britain as a whole, and that is why the British people, and their government, aren't being taken seriously by anyone anymore. But you can prove me wrong, of course. Just who are your friends and Allies these days?
You do know that a huge part of the world still use the BBC to get the real news instead of their local controlled media right?
Yes, I know. The BBC is expert on all things foreign. We saw that in their handling of the Iraq war.
And you do know that almost all international media surveys show that the BBC is by far the most trusted international media out let on the planet right?
Oh I realize that many in the third world and the UK trust the BBC, and of course many governments are able to use it for propaganda purposes against the west. We know all that.
So you admit that the BBC is not left or right wing, since it does not matter who is in government.
Again, read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. You are not with the BBC now.
And if it was so biased, do you really think it would have survived Thatcher?
Again, I said that the BBC bureaucracy can survive any government, and it has. What is there about this that you cannot understand?
In fact it flourished under Thatcher.. go figure, or is Thatcher just another euro-socialist?
I doubt that she was. What difference does that make in regard to the BBC? Do i have to explain this all again???
LOL powerful in what way?
It was you who just said that "You do know that a huge part of the world still use the BBC to get the real news instead of their local controlled media right?"
Isn't that powerful? It seems that you are not comprehending what I am saying, and you don't even understand what you are saying!
Does the BBC dictate policy?
So you feel policies aren't formed by public opinion and the BBC has no influence on public opinion?
No lol, there are far too many competitors now days
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Oh so the BBC doesn't influence public opinion because there is too much competition. And the majority of British people and the third world get their information from where?
Any stepping over the line is instantly pounced on by the competition and the critics.
Right! And these critics are right wing rabble with grudges. I know.
And unlike the media you like, you can complain over the BBC and the BBC has been busted a number of or not living up to its own rules.
I've never mentioned media I liked. I know the BBC has been busted by right wing rabble with grudges, but they can be safely ignored.
I would LOVE to have a similar system for the US media..
Why? So the Americans could be just as poorly informed as the Brits in order to make the playing field more level? That's unlikely. But in fact a similar system has existed in the US, and Canada. Though not as bad as the BBC, they are now being largely ignored. In fact they are only gaining public ridicule, which should be the case with the BBC.
Yea.. and so what? Are you saying we have to dismantle the BBC every 4 years?
The political arm of the BBC, and its overseas service, should be dismantled immediately.
LOL give me a break. You are seriously comparing Fox News and the way the US media handled the Iraq war, with how the BBC and UK media did?
Yes, and if you read the reports you could see how it was bungled and propagandized by the BBC. A friend of mine was watching Fox news and the tanks and troops were marching through Baghdad while the BBC was saying the Americans weren't there, that we all knew how the Americans were prone to exaggeration. This is just another example of how the British public is being consistently misinformed by the BBC.
It is miles apart, because the US media did not do their freaking jobs and were nothing but lapdogs of the Bush administration. They were propaganda machines nothing more nothing less and they have admitted (minus Fox of course) that they dropped the ball in the months after 9/11 to the Iraq war.
Actually, the French media and German media were reporting the same as the American media.
In this time period, the BBC and UK news media in general, asked highly critical questions and demanded the truth
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Yes, I know!! i saw their search for "The Truth"!
That Blair pissed on everyone and went ahead any ways, does not change the fact that the British media (minus some what the Murdoch newspapers) were not the lapdog propaganda machines of the Blair government as the US counterparts were.
Right. They understood that Saddam Hussein was just the parent of some unruly children and that gassing his people, murdering millions of others, invading his neighbors, etc, was all a misunderstanding. It was really the lying leadership in the Coalition who were the villains in this piece. I know, I know!
When Blair threw out the 45 min till nuclear Armageddon, the US media ate it up
Actually you are doing a BBC here. That is untrue, though I have little doubt that the BBC told you it was true. That was not a factor over here.
where as the UK media treated the comment with high scepticism and guess what.. they were right.
Yes, and they've been focusing on that ever since, just as you are now. But, unknown to many in the British BBC public, there were other issues.
And in no way has the BBC or other UK media not supported the British troops once they were away overseas.. for one, the BBC almost always shows when troops comes home in body bags.. live often or slightly delayed. When was the last time that was shown on US TV?
The US media obviously has more respect for the feelings of the families of these brave people, and feel their deaths should not be propagandized. This is just another sorry example of how low British society has evolved.