U.S. Capitol Police officer cleared of wrongdoing in fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol attack

[roguenuke]

Please show where this unarmed lady was a threat. Her only crime was being white.

Being part of a mob that was actively breaking their way into a barricaded area made her a threat.

 

[Tahuyaman]

It's a shame she died.

But I'm not sure what people expected the police to do.



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So, an unarmed white woman, with no criminal history, is killed by a police officer while participating in an act of civil disobedience and there's no outrage or riots. Hmm....

 

[JasperL]

Because this is yet another of the countless examples of police executing unarmed people in the United States and the rest of the country lining up to support them. It happens every time. It's why change in policing is so hard.

That only makes sense if the law should read something like - "if a person or persons (e.g. a violent mob) poses a threat to others, but isn't obviously armed with a GUN, then you cannot use deadly force, and the use of such deadly force is homicide, whether by LEO or private individual." Is that how you think the law should read?

And have you taken a position on this shooting yet? I haven't seen it. Some of us believe that a violent mob threatening Congress and others and attempting to break through the last barrier between the mob and those civilians is a justifiable use of deadly force. We are focusing on this case, this shooting, the facts of this case. You've ignored the facts of this case entirely. I don't know why.

It's also a lie or ignorant to claim that the public lining up behind the LEO happens "every time." You've not been on here long, but if you had been you'd have known of dozens of cases where the public didn't in fact support the shooting as justified. If you paid attention, at all, to the news, you could come up with a dozen or more examples on your own where the "public" concluded the shooting was NOT justified. It depends on the case, the facts and circumstances, like all other deadly shootings.

 

[JasperL]

Nope, you've convinced me. Cops should shoot people for breaking windows. Got it. And for being drunk in a Wendys parking lot. And best no to release the officer's name; would hate for them to have trouble getting a job in a different polic agency in the future. I'm sure the public has no interest in knowing which police officers in their communities have a history of shooting unarmed civilians.

More trolling. Of course I didn't claim cops should shoot people for breaking windows, etc. Seems like having an honest discussion would be more fun for you, but trolling it is I guess.

 

[JasperL]

So, an unarmed white woman, with no criminal history, is killed by a police officer while participating in an act of civil disobedience and there's no outrage or riots. Hmm....

It wasn't an act of civil disobedience. She was part of a violent mob attacking the U.S. Capitol during which 150 or so LEOs were injured. Glad to have cleared that up.

 

[SkyFox76]

Please show where this unarmed lady was a threat. Her only crime was being white.

Her only crime was being white?

Her entire presence in that building was a crime as the Capitol was not open to the public at that time. I'm also pretty sure damaging property is a crime.

During her military career she actually held an armed position to keep areas secure from intruders, so she was more than aware that the officer instructing her to get down/get back (while pointing his weapon) wasn't just a random request, it was an order. An order she chose to ignore while attempting to breach a barricaded area. Also a crime.

So yeah, her being white was the issue.

 

[JasperL]

Please show where this unarmed lady was a threat. Her only crime was being white.

If she was by herself she's not a serious threat, but she wasn't by herself, was she?

 

[JasperL]

The Democrats found a police shooting for disorderly conduct and trespassing that they like.

It wasn't disorderly conduct and trespassing that got Babbitt killed. It was posing a threat to members of Congress and staff and others, trying to breach the last barrier between a violent mob and those civilians. Apparently attacking the U.S. Capitol is one of those things that is fine and dandy for you MAGAs. They were doing it in defense of Trump, so all is good I guess.

 

[Moderate Right]

Her only crime was being white?

Her entire presence in that building was a crime as the Capitol was not open to the public at that time. I'm also pretty sure damaging property is a crime.

During her military career she actually held an armed position to keep areas secure from intruders, so she was more than aware that the officer instructing her to get down/get back (while pointing his weapon) wasn't just a random request, it was an order. An order she chose to ignore while attempting to breach a barricaded area. Also a crime.

So yeah, her being white was the issue.

Oh. Now I understand. If a person is not where they are supposed to be it is reason to be shot and killed. Lefties are such hypocrites and racists. If this had been a black lady protesting George Floyd's death, even if she had swarmed into the federal court in Portland and had been shot and killed by the police, all hell would have broken loose.

 

[SCrider]

So, an unarmed white woman, with no criminal history, is killed by a police officer while participating in an act of civil disobedience and there's no outrage or riots. Hmm....

Go ahead and start one.

 

[JasperL]

The Trump hate has long past moved to murderous rage with these people. They are specifically the Fascists they claim to oppose.

What makes us fascists for believing the officer justifiably used deadly force to protect the U.S. Capitol. Can you explain where the 'fascism' comes into play?

The right wing is normally pro-LEO, pro law and order. Now a violent mob attacks the Capitol and you side with the thugs and criminals. Should LEOs have just waved the mob through to wherever it was the Congress was sheltering? I'm sure the mob meant no harm, although the mob injured 150 or so LEOs getting to that point. LEO could have asked - will you harm anyone - and if they said no, then they get a hall pass for the building?

 

[JasperL]

Oh. Now I understand. If a person is not where they are supposed to be it is reason to be shot and killed. Lefties are such hypocrites and racists. If this had been a black lady protesting George Floyd's death, even if she had swarmed into the federal court in Portland and had been shot and killed by the police, all hell would have broken loose.

Probably true because a single person 'swarming' into a federal courtroom, that would have several armed guards on hand, poses no threat. Here there was a mob, and they'd already proved they are a threat with 150 or so LEOs injured. Babbitt wasn't there alone - a mob was behind her. So the threat was Babbitt AND those behind her who were also attempting to breach that barrier and had proved themselves willing to injure LEOs who got in their way.

Should they have politely removed the barrier and waved everyone through to where Congress and others were sheltering? Let them mingle, see what happened?

 

[Tahuyaman]

Go ahead and start one.

Start a riot? Now why would anyone think that's a good idea? Rational people express themselves in an intelligent manner.

 

[dixon01767]

Who is behind that female?

Three other Capitol Police officers.

 

[SCrider]

Start a riot? Now why would anyone think that's a good idea? Rational people express themselves in an intelligent manner.

You are the complaining that there is no outrage over this traitors death. If you feel that strongly get off the computer and put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Ikari]

So, an unarmed white woman, with no criminal history, is killed by a police officer while participating in an act of civil disobedience and there's no outrage or riots. Hmm....

Don't storm Congress and try to subvert American Democracy, I guess.

 

[Mongidig]

Yuck. Reminds me of all the posts people made about protesters lighting occupied police stations on fire.

I'd have no problem with snipers in that situation as well.

 

[TomFitz]

Its being used in pretty much all the telegram chats the parler freaks ran off to. You can see why the rioters are linked to nazis because they kinda are nazis.

While I was once tempted to register to one of these sites, in order to observe what was being said, I decided not to.

First of all, there are enough Trumpsters here who spend a lot of their day on these platforms and come here and repeat the garbage.

Second, these platforms freely advertise their willingness to permit fraud and false and seditious nonsense on their platforms. Indeed, that’s the core of their appeal to this audience.

It seemed to me that signing up for an account on a platform that freely endorses sedition, bigotry and lies, is about as responsible as signing up for a Russian porno sit, in terms of internet security!

(come to think about it, they might be about the same!).

 

[bomberfox]

While I was once tempted to register to one of these sites, in order to observe what was being said, I decided not to.

First of all, there are enough Trumpsters here who spend a lot of their day on these platforms and come here and repeat the garbage.

Second, these platforms freely advertise their willingness to permit fraud and false and seditious nonsense on their platforms. Indeed, that’s the core of their appeal to this audience.

It seemed to me that signing up for an account on a platform that freely endorses sedition, bigotry and lies, is about as responsible as signing up for a Russian porno sit, in terms of internet security!

(come to think about it, they might be about the same!).

Ive been keeping telegram logs, just.... havnt been able to contact anyone to look through them.

 

[dixon01767]

No threat? 140 officers injured that day.

Not a one of them by Ashli Babbitt. Creepy how many on the left support shooting dead someone at the front of a mob to dissuade the rest of the mob.

 

[SkyFox76]

Oh. Now I understand. If a person is not where they are supposed to be it is reason to be shot and killed. Lefties are such hypocrites and racists. If this had been a black lady protesting George Floyd's death, even if she had swarmed into the federal court in Portland and had been shot and killed by the police, all hell would have broken loose.

Tell you what. Had there not been several members of congress sheltered just down that hall, then I'd disagree with her being shot at. I don't see it as a left or right position, but you can knock yourself out thinking it is. I also don't care what color she was. Her actions were stupid and risky. So again, that's on you.

 

[AGENT J]

 

[SCrider]

Not a one of them by Ashli Babbitt. Creepy how many on the left support shooting dead someone at the front of a mob to dissuade the rest of the mob.

First one through the hole is the most likely to get hit.

 

[SkyFox76]

So, an unarmed white woman, with no criminal history, is killed by a police officer while participating in an act of civil disobedience and there's no outrage or riots. Hmm....

Idk, chasing down her husband's ex and rear ending her car three times sounds a tad criminal. As well as calling in false police reports. The charges never resulted in conviction but let's not pretend she was June Cleaver.

 

[AGENT J]

I wonder why I dont know anybody in real life that tries to support this terrorist and say it wasn't a justified shoot when its like a textbook example of a justified shooting

people, left, right, people that voted for Trump etc . . nobody in real life says otherwise

very telling . . . .