U.K. Supreme Court Rules Trans Women Can’t Be Defined as Women

[cpwill]

Europe was faster than us getting into this mess, and it never became as much of a culture-war-fervor item (where people feel the need to defend it absolutely because The Bad People Oppose It), so, they are a bit faster than us, it seems, in getting out of it.

Another important - and unanimous! - step in that journey:

U.K. Supreme Court Rules Trans Women Can’t Be Defined as Women

Britain’s top court ruled only those born female can be considered women, a landmark judgment that excludes transgender women from the legal definition and paves the way for tighter limits on female-only spaces and services. ...

“The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex,” said the court’s deputy president, Lord Hodge....

In the 88-page ruling, the judges said the concept of sex was binary, referring to either a woman or a man, and that they hoped the ruling would give clarity to the law while protecting both women and transgender people.

“The ordinary meaning of those plain and unambiguous words corresponds with the biological characteristics that make an individual a man or a woman,” the ruling read.

“These are assumed to be self-explanatory and to require no further explanation.”​

 

[ttwtt78640]

Good, since it makes no sense to let folks self-identify their legal sex (age or disability) based on how they personally prefer (feel?) it should be.

 

[Fletch]

Finally some sanity on the issue.

 

[Gardener]

and the usual suspects will arrive to gang up against any who support this in 5.....4.....3....2...

 

[Mr Person]

The next ruling conservatives hope for: Top Court rules that trans people are not people.

After all, what is conservatism if you don't have groups of extremely vulnerable people to abuse?

 

[Aristaeus]

Europe was faster than us getting into this mess, and it never became as much of a culture-war-fervor item (where people feel the need to defend it absolutely because The Bad People Oppose It), so, they are a bit faster than us, it seems, in getting out of it.

Another important - and unanimous! - step in that journey:

U.K. Supreme Court Rules Trans Women Can’t Be Defined as Women

Britain’s top court ruled only those born female can be considered women, a landmark judgment that excludes transgender women from the legal definition and paves the way for tighter limits on female-only spaces and services. ...​

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“The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex,” said the court’s deputy president, Lord Hodge....​

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In the 88-page ruling, the judges said the concept of sex was binary, referring to either a woman or a man, and that they hoped the ruling would give clarity to the law while protecting both women and transgender people.​

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“The ordinary meaning of those plain and unambiguous words corresponds with the biological characteristics that make an individual a man or a woman,” the ruling read.​

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“These are assumed to be self-explanatory and to require no further explanation.”​

It's little more nuanced than what your thread title says. Only those born female can be considered women for the purposes of the Equality Act.

 

[Fletch]

The next ruling conservatives hope for: Top Court rules that trans people are not people.

After all, what is conservatism if you don't have groups of extremely vulnerable people to abuse?

Rather than post garbage like that, why not use your supposed legal skills and tell us where the UK Supreme Court got this wrong.


*crickets*

 

[Sweden]

Well done for a decision that will be welcomed by the UK public.
I posted this Yougov survey a few days ago. It's worth a look.

Where does the British public stand on transgender rights in 2024/25? | YouGov

Scepticism towards transgender rights has grown across the board since 2022

yougov.co.uk

 

[Fletch]

It's little more nuanced than what your thread title says. Only those born female can be considered women for the purposes of the Equality Act.

So whats the nuance?

 

[Lisa]

Europe was faster than us getting into this mess, and it never became as much of a culture-war-fervor item (where people feel the need to defend it absolutely because The Bad People Oppose It), so, they are a bit faster than us, it seems, in getting out of it.

Another important - and unanimous! - step in that journey:

U.K. Supreme Court Rules Trans Women Can’t Be Defined as Women

Britain’s top court ruled only those born female can be considered women, a landmark judgment that excludes transgender women from the legal definition and paves the way for tighter limits on female-only spaces and services. ...​

​

“The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex,” said the court’s deputy president, Lord Hodge....​

​

In the 88-page ruling, the judges said the concept of sex was binary, referring to either a woman or a man, and that they hoped the ruling would give clarity to the law while protecting both women and transgender people.​

​

“The ordinary meaning of those plain and unambiguous words corresponds with the biological characteristics that make an individual a man or a woman,” the ruling read.​

​

“These are assumed to be self-explanatory and to require no further explanation.”​

Nobody is surprised by this ruling from TERF island.

BTW, biological sex isn't binary.

 

[Rogue Valley]

I've never ecountered enough trans women to get all bothered about them.

I'm far more concerned about Trump tanking the stock markets, and ignoring the legal safeguard of due process while "disappearing" people in El Salvador.

 

[j brown's body]

Social heirarchieslike this that then require more rules and policing is a hallmark of authoritarianism.

What goes unexplained is why is this necessary now when it never was before.

 

[Argent]

Biological sex is not as simple as male or female

A recent Trump executive order defines sex based on gamete size. But the order oversimplifies genetics, hormones and reproductive biology.

www.sciencenews.org

 

[Gardener]

The next ruling conservatives hope for: Top Court rules that trans people are not people.

After all, what is conservatism if you don't have groups of extremely vulnerable people to abuse?

To the exact same degree as how leftists hope for measures requiring the mandatory mutilation of all children's genitals, true.

 

[Lisa]

To the exact same degree as how leftists hope for measures requiring the mandatory mutilation of all children's genitals, true.

All medical care in the US is absoluety voluntary, so if a parents cabinet be forced to vaccinate a child then how exactly can a teen be forced to undergo reassignment surgery against their will? Who are making these medical decisions for a teen against their will? Since when are all children transgender because the statistics say the number is less than 2% of the population and not all of them would be out as a teen or choose to have bottom surgery.


Is this information that you claim to have coming from Hillary's basement pizza shop or is it come from George Soros' estate?

 

[Gardener]

All medical care in the US is absoluety voluntary, so if a parents cabinet be forced to vaccinate a child then how exactly can a teen be forced to undergo reassignment surgery against their will? Who are making these medical decisions for a teen against their will? Since when are all children transgender because the statistics say the number is less than 2% of the population and not all of them would be out as a teen or choose to have bottom surgery.


Is this information that you claim to have coming from Hillary's basement pizza shop or is it come from George Soros' estate?

I was making a claim equally outrageous as the one he made, and did so to make a point.

You missed the point.

 

[Lisa]

I was making a claim equally outrageous as the one he made, and did so to make a point.

You missed the point.

The statement that Mr Person made was not outrageous. Dehumanizing minority groups such as transgendered people is part of the GOPs culture war. Its SOP for fascism.

 

[Gardener]

The statement that Mr Person made was not outrageous. Dehumanizing minority groups such as transgendered people is part of the GOPs culture war. Its SOP for fascism.

You are too far gone to realize it is you who are actually dehumanizing people when you accuse them of abuse for their willingness to stand up for the very victims of such.

 

[Lisa]

You are too far gone to realize it is you who are actually dehumanizing people when you accuse them of abuse for their willingness to stand up for the very victims of such.

Say what?

 

[Aristaeus]

So whats the nuance?

Headlines say it has ruled on “the definition of a woman”. Except it hasn’t. As the court says, in paragraph 2 of its judgment: “It is not the role of the court to adjudicate on the arguments in the public domain on the meaning of gender or sex, nor is it to define the meaning of the word ‘woman’ other than when it is used in the provisions of the Equality Act."

 

[Fletch]

Headlines say it has ruled on “the definition of a woman”. Except it hasn’t. As the court says, in paragraph 2 of its judgment: “It is not the role of the court to adjudicate on the arguments in the public domain on the meaning of gender or sex, nor is it to define the meaning of the word ‘woman’ other than when it is used in the provisions of the Equality Act."

Still not seeing the nuance. It defined the term woman in terms of the equality act (whatever that is). So it kinda has defined the term woman. Not that most people werent already aware of that definition.

 

[bomberfox]

Trans erasure…. More v-coding awaits… joy… the entire premise of TERFism and anti trans is the claim trans women are doing this to rape women. They at least dont have to suffer the inhumane practice of v-coding.

 

[Fletch]

The statement that Mr Person made was not outrageous. Dehumanizing minority groups such as transgendered people is part of the GOPs culture war. Its SOP for fascism.

No one has 'dehumanized' transgenders. Thats just you spreading lies again. It is not 'dehumanizing' to state the scientific fact that a person born a male will forever be male regardless of their wishes.

 

[bomberfox]

and the usual suspects will arrive to gang up against any who support this in 5.....4.....3....2...

Yeah people oppose you. Get over it.

 

[Fletch]

Yeah people oppose you.

Oppose based upon what? Certainly not science.