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Two 13-year-olds shot while trying to steal car in Southwest Philadelphia: Police

I cannot believe you lefties are still defending criminals over a man protecting what is his.

Pathetic!
 
I cannot believe you lefties are still defending criminals over a man protecting what is his.

Pathetic!
Seriously? What the **** are you talking about? Trump is a criminal - a lifelong criminal - and the preponderance of people who identify as "on the right" absolutely fall over themselves to defend him.
Talk about pathetic .... sheeesh.
 
Seriously? What the **** are you talking about? Trump is a criminal - a lifelong criminal - and the preponderance of people who identify as "on the right" absolutely fall over themselves to defend him.
Talk about pathetic .... sheeesh.
This thread has nothing to do with that loser.
 
My comment directly addressed your post #201 about the left defending criminals.
Lawfare was not used against them.

How many unknown laws are you in violation of if someone used lawfare against you?
 
Lawfare was not used against them.
The idea that "lawfare" was used against Trump is bullshit. Trump's racism, money laundering, tax cheating, sexual predation, and recidivist criminal FRAUD predate his forays into politics by many decades.
Try to catch up.
How many unknown laws are you in violation of if someone used lawfare against you?
You should be asking a lifelong criminal that question. It doesn't apply to me. It applies to Trump.
 
Nonsense. It endangers the public, and the punishment does not fit the crime.

Correct. Having 13 year-olds racing around in a car endangers the public.,

Shooting at car thieves is barbaric.

Nope

You might just as well be gathering a posse, and hanging people without a trial.

That is not analogous in the slightest. One is shooting in the commission of a crime and the other is shooting a long after the crime.,


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Correct. Having 13 year-olds racing around in a car endangers the public.,



Nope



That is not analogous in the slightest. One is shooting in the commission of a crime and the other is shooting a long after the crime.,
You're wasting your time arguing what you already know is legally indefensible. Why do you persist?
Too much coffee today?
 
The idea that "lawfare" was used against Trump is bullshit. Trump's racism, money laundering, tax cheating, sexual predation, and recidivist criminal FRAUD predate his forays into politics by many decades.
Try to catch up.

You should be asking a lifelong criminal that question. It doesn't apply to me. It applies to Trump.
You should stop expecting me to give a shit about lowlife thugs. Shit needs to be flushed. Not kept on the streets.
 
You're wasting your time arguing what you already know is legally indefensible. Why do you persist?
Too much coffee today?

I never said that I was arguing what was legal or not...

Why are you arguing against what you know is morally indefensible? (Letting criminals just run around committing crimes?)
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I never said that I was arguing what was legal or not...

Why are you arguing against what you know is morally indefensible? (Letting criminals just run around committing crimes?)
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In the world of what is morally indefensible, shooting people soars to the top of the list.
 
In the world of what is morally indefensible, shooting people soars to the top of the list.

Not shooting people that are then free to run off and hurt innocent people is truly indefensible.


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You are lot less safe in the USA than any other first world country (obviously, there are regional variations). That's not incompatible with guns making Americans safer, but it would be ironic to be first in gun ownership and last in safety if that were true.
 
You are lot less safe in the USA than any other first world country (obviously, there are regional variations). That's not incompatible with guns making Americans safer, but it would be ironic to be first in gun ownership and last in safety if that were true.

It doesn't give you pause that geography is more of a factor than gun ownership?
 
There is no law he needed to stay in the house.
No, but there is common sense.

Something lacking in hard-core gun fetishists.
 
Human beings are not trash. But I'm not surprised you would characterize them as such. Dehumanizing people is right out of the fascist playbook.

There's absolutely nothing "civil" about the death sentence - especially for theft.

No I don't. But he makes himself front and center every time he opens his mouth, every single day. So one need not have any TDS to be constantly referencing him. It's his choice to be unavoidable. Get used to it.
Strange seeing you whine about someone calling people trash.

So again, they are really making an effort to clean out the trash rather than doing everything in their power to reelect the trash - like the Republicans just did with Trump!
Guess it is only ok when you do it huh.

So why do you do things out of the fascist playbook.
 
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I don't think they described it as a carjacking, they described it as a joy ride.
It was a robbery per state law.
It wasn't the shooter's car, it was a neighbor's car in it's parking spot.

The shooter claimed one of the teens pulled a gun on him, but no one has been able to find this gun.
Where are you getting this? It must be a newer article I'm unaware of because the OP's article says:
The man who fired the shots was allegedly trying to thwart a car theft.

According to Philadelphia Police Chief Inspector Scott Small, the man got a call from a neighbor stating that four juveniles appeared to be breaking into his Honda.

When the man confronted the juveniles, police say one of them pulled out a gun.
 
Stopping a robbery is NOT DEFENDING YOURSELF !!

You can't shoot people "to stop their crime".
Depends on the crime. Ever hear of the "fleeing felon" rule?

It's illegal unless your own life is threatened. Period.

Argue all you want. Argue with yourself. Even law enforcement are not allowed to shoot someone for committing a robbery, and you insist that you can. 🤷‍♂️
Life is too short to bother with deliberately obtuse people.

I'll end this exchange now because it is obvious you don't have the intellectual honesty to answer a simple question - not even to yourself. Have fun shooting thieves.
 
I cannot believe you lefties are still defending criminals over a man protecting what is his.

Pathetic!

The article is unclear whether it was his car or his neighbor's car.

But shooting some kids taking a joy ride is excessive.

What's next? Shooting the neighbor because his dog pooped on your lawn?

Where are you getting this? It must be a newer article I'm unaware of because the OP's article says:

To be fair, the article was unclear as to whose care it was.. "His car" does that mean the man's car or the neighbor's car?

What I'm not hearing.

That anyone has recovered this gun that was supposedly drawn.
That anyone called the police when they saw the robbery was happening.
 
??WHA...?? You think shooting a car thief makes us safer?!? On what planet does that happen?
I guess there's no sense in asking you about whether or not the punishment should fit the crime. Too complicated a question for you. As Trump's biggest fanboy, I'm sure you were tickled to hear him say he'd have the National Guard shoot shoplifters. There's a country you'd delight in living in.

In Trumpistan, everyone found guilty of stealing diapers and baby food would be sentenced to death.

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I'd be interested to see the statistics of how often diapers and baby food are shoplifted.
I would venture to guess... 0% of thefts.
 
I'd be interested to see the statistics of how often diapers and baby food are shoplifted.
I would venture to guess... 0% of thefts.

You'd be wrong.
 
Strange seeing you whine about someone calling people trash.


Guess it is only ok when you do it huh.
Thanks for that. Point taken. My remark was a glib reflexive riff on the post I responded to, and I should not have. As a rule, I never characterize human beings as trash. Although when I was an angry young man, I do recall tossing one particularly belligerent fellow into a 40yd construction dumpster. I seriously tore my right trapezius muscle getting him over the top, and an hour later had to climb in myself, wake him up and help him get out. It was winter, and I was afraid he might freeze to death. Lesson learned, I guess. I don’t go tossing people around anymore. No matter how bad they are, people are not trash - they are human beings.
So why do you do things out of the fascist playbook.
?? Perhaps I feel the need to not get left behind in fascist Trumpistan ???
 
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