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Two 13-year-olds shot while trying to steal car in Southwest Philadelphia: Police

DaveJ said:
I'd be interested to see the statistics of how often diapers and baby food are shoplifted.
I would venture to guess... 0% of thefts.
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Actually, I’ve heard that it’s quite common. Ordinarily law abiding poor folks are generally much more willing to commit theft for the sake of their child than they are for themselves. But feel free to look it up yourself.

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More People Are Stealing Food To Feed Their Kids– And Who Can Blame Them?

Congress needs to act. They need to put aside bickering, and partisan politics, and pass a stimulus bill now that can help struggling families.
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JoeB131 said:
The article is unclear whether it was his car or his neighbor's car.
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Does not matter to me.
JoeB131 said:
But shooting some kids taking a joy ride is excessive.
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I think it fits the crime.
JoeB131 said:
What's next? Shooting the neighbor because his dog pooped on your lawn?
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That is not stealing transportation that can make a difference ion a person's life. What if the guy had a wife that is 9 months pregnant, any moment needing to drive to the hospital? Such delays from a car missing is not acceptable.

It once use to be a hanging offense to steal a person horse. Laws like this need to return. We need more capital punishment to get rid of the vermin who prey on others.
JoeB131 said:
That anyone has recovered this gun that was supposedly drawn.
That anyone called the police when they saw the robbery was happening.
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Does not matter to me, and many others.

Stop defending scum.
 
DaveJ said:
I'd be interested to see the statistics of how often diapers and baby food are shoplifted.
I would venture to guess... 0% of thefts.
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They are actually a high theft item, as is laundry detergent.
 
MamboDervish said:
Actually, I’ve heard that it’s quite common. Ordinarily law abiding poor folks are generally much more willing to commit theft for the sake of their child than they are for themselves. But feel free to look it up yourself.

www.scarymommy.com

More People Are Stealing Food To Feed Their Kids– And Who Can Blame Them?

Congress needs to act. They need to put aside bickering, and partisan politics, and pass a stimulus bill now that can help struggling families.
www.scarymommy.com www.scarymommy.com
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If they have kids, they get adequate SNAP benefits. Some people sell their snap for cash.

No excuse.
 
MamboDervish said:
I guess no sense asking if you read the link then ...
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I do not take reading assignments from those who advocate crime. You need to quote a relevant passage to peak my interest so I do not waste my time.

What excuses does it offer? All premade microwave foods, instead of baking for one self?

I believe SNAP should be limited to the foods bought. No ready to eat meals. No candy No soda, etc. It should not be a lifestyle, and it should be inconvenient enough that people want to better themselves.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I do not take reading assignments from those who advocate crime. You need to quote a relevant passage to peak my interest so I do not waste my time.
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You advocate crime - not me. You advocate vigilantism. You advocate shooting people without arrest, trial and conviction. That is a crime, and you advocate that criminality. Not me. By your own words, you are willing to set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner. I am not.
 
How many liberals here believe he should have allowed his car to be taken, called the police, and filed a claim with his insurance?
 
tharock220 said:
How many liberals here believe he should have allowed his car to be taken, called the police, and filed a claim with his insurance?
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It's certainly an option.
Are you claiming it isn't?
 
JoeB131 said:
The article is unclear whether it was his car or his neighbor's car.

But shooting some kids taking a joy ride is excessive.

What's next? Shooting the neighbor because his dog pooped on your lawn?



To be fair, the article was unclear as to whose care it was.. "His car" does that mean the man's car or the neighbor's car?

What I'm not hearing.

That anyone has recovered this gun that was supposedly drawn.
That anyone called the police when they saw the robbery was happening.
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The man confronted them. The man got the call about someone trying to break into his Honda. Unless the neighbor whose Honda was being broken into called some random "the man" to deal with it. Is this guy the local vigilante or something? I doubt it. Sounds like the owner was contacted and the owner confronted and shot the robbers.
 
MamboDervish said:
You advocate crime - not me. You advocate vigilantism. You advocate shooting people without arrest, trial and conviction. That is a crime, and you advocate that criminality. Not me. By your own words, you are willing to set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner. I am not.
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Peter said:
Only in America could the theft of a car by teeneagers result in them being shot.
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Folks, it's robbery, not just "theft." You seem to have a bizarre understanding of American law, believing that deadly action against criminals can only be taken after a trial and conviction. This is not the case. Again I point to the following case:

nypost.com

Acquitted Texas man who shot prostitute after she refused sex was just ‘protecting himself from theft’: court

SAN ANTONIO — A South Texas man has been acquitted in the shooting death of a woman he met on Craigslist as a possible escort. A jury in San Antonio on Wednesday acquitted Ezekiel Gilbert of murder…
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In summary: a man contacted a prostitute for sex and paid her $150, but she refused to have sex AND refused to give back the money. He shot her in the neck and paralyzed her while trying to recover the money. She later died of the wounds. He was found NOT GUILTY despite admitting to this series of events.

The Philadelphia case is far less extreme as the perpetrators were committing a more serious crime (felony auto robbery) and the guy claims to have seen a gun pointed at him by the perpetrators. He has not been charged, and given the amount of time that has passed, it is unlikely he will be. Not every case needs to go to trial. Most police encounters and cases don't. The cops can question the victim, question the suspects, find out that the victim's testimony holds up to scrutiny while the robbers' statements are inconsistent and fall apart, and recommend to the prosecutor not to charge the victim. And that would be the end of it.
 
MamboDervish said:
You advocate crime - not me. You advocate vigilantism. You advocate shooting people without arrest, trial and conviction. That is a crime, and you advocate that criminality. Not me. By your own words, you are willing to set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner. I am not.
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That's OK that you want to take my viewpoint to the extreme. It just farther reinforces my belief you do not comprehend.
 
Cosmo said:
Well last I checked this guy has not been charged so what's your issue?
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The lefties are reading and being brainwashed again by their favorite lying media I bet.
 
Why is this thread still going? Is it about blacks or something?
 
MamboDervish said:
Actually, I’ve heard that it’s quite common. Ordinarily law abiding poor folks are generally much more willing to commit theft for the sake of their child than they are for themselves. But feel free to look it up yourself.

www.scarymommy.com

More People Are Stealing Food To Feed Their Kids– And Who Can Blame Them?

Congress needs to act. They need to put aside bickering, and partisan politics, and pass a stimulus bill now that can help struggling families.
www.scarymommy.com www.scarymommy.com
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I used the word "statistics" for a reason. An article doesn't prove anything. You can call me ignorant if you want, but I don't know of a single person who will change their opinion the instant they are introduced to an article that disagrees with it. You can find an article to support just about any opinion you can possibly have.
No offense.
 
MamboDervish said:
Actually, I’ve heard that it’s quite common. Ordinarily law abiding poor folks are generally much more willing to commit theft for the sake of their child than they are for themselves. But feel free to look it up yourself.

www.scarymommy.com

More People Are Stealing Food To Feed Their Kids– And Who Can Blame Them?

Congress needs to act. They need to put aside bickering, and partisan politics, and pass a stimulus bill now that can help struggling families.
www.scarymommy.com www.scarymommy.com
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I bet these kids were just stealing the car so they can take it apart and trade the parts for food!

On a more serious note, you do realize that in America, the poor are over-represented in obesity, right?
 
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