Tucker Carlson's White Supremacist Rant

[calamity]

Why is Tucker's brand of racist demagoguery is dangerous? It paints a false reality for those easily led into believing it.

Although 61% of Americans responding to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll think Trump "is at least partly to blame for starting the deadly Jan. 6 riot," only 28% of Republicans agreed with that statement. And more than half of the Republicans questioned agreed that Jan. 6 was the work of "violent left-wing protesters trying to make Trump look bad."

See what I mean?

The new lies of the GOP and Tucker Carlson | CNN

Trump has taken the lead in rewriting the history of Jan. 6, with assists from GOP lawmakers like Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and media confederates like Tucker Carlson, writes Ruth Ben-Ghiat. And like any dangerous propaganda campaign, this one needs both noise and silence to be effective.

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[Peter King]

Overtly racist or just another thinly veiled dog whistle, you decide.



I say it was pretty overt.

It was full white nationalist propaganda.

 

[Carl Young]

The legal immigration system is broken in desperate need of fixing. It does not serve the needs of the US economy.

That is why we have a problem with illegal immigration.

Blaming the immigrants is ridiculous.

They come because they have jobs waiting for them. You would do the same in their shoes. They would much rather come legally, but that process takes decades, at the end of which they would be too old to do the jobs they are wanted for.

Until we fix our legal immigration system is fixed so that it meets American economic needs, illegal immigrants are vital to our economy, and thank God they come and work so hard.

No one is 'blaming immigrants'.

 

[calamity]

No one is 'blaming immigrants'.

No one that matters, just idiotic Trumpian Right Wingers, i.e. the White Grievance industry.

 

[Carl Young]

Those non-whites are super unpredictable like that!

The European Whites have done quite well as a group, and of course much or all of that is related to culture and religion. Other cultures have done less well and you can see that immediately as you cross the border from Texas into Mexico, for example. There's really not much room for debate.

 

[NolanVoyd]

No one is 'blaming immigrants'.

Lol.

Of course they are. Have you been under a rock or what?

 

[Carl Young]

You’re talking about political parties and I’m talking about the reasons a human would end up in one of these parties in the first place (temperament.) sure, they are all along the middle too, and those are mostly the “they” that I’m talking about.

No, I was discussing loyalty to the country they worked for, right or left. And it's not just temperament. Science has already discovered that the human brain works on different levels re emotion, etc, and they can rather safely predict where you're likely to fall politically just by performing a directed brain scan.

The moderates are saving classical liberalism from the iceberg.

The 'classic liberals' are now called 'conservatives'. Modern 'liberals' don't even know there is an iceberg.

Yes, we need to figure out the internet thing, and media—what is it now, all that. But if you think it’s as simple as some liberal fascist/socialist whatever thing trying to take over, you’re mistaken, and worried about the wrong things.

Too late.

I’m not saying we should accept all change as good, some is not. So go ahead, sound the alarm, whatever, because that helps too. But don’t get the idea that you’re side is the only “right” side of the die. There are a bunch of sides, and sometimes all of them are right.

I'm not sounding any alarm. I'm simply pointing out what's going on and people can take it or leave it.

 

[Carl Young]

Lol. Of course they are. Have you been under a rock or what?

Then your going to have to name them. I see people blaming the government for illegal immigration, not the immigrants themselves. Their plight is understandable..

Are you going to continue to be rude?

 

[Peter King]

No one that matters, just idiotic Trumpian Right Wingers, i.e. the White Grievance industry.

And Tucker does not mean white immigrants because his bosses at Foxnews are also immigrants, this is all about colored immigrants with Tuckboy.

 

[calamity]

And Tucker does not mean white immigrants because his bosses at Foxnews are also immigrants, this is all about colored immigrants with Tuckboy.

Of course.

 

[Carl Young]

And Tucker does not mean white immigrants because his bosses at Foxnews are also immigrants, this is all about colored immigrants with Tuckboy.

"Colored" immigrants, huh? Have never heard that word used in a conversation unless it's been in an old movie.

 

[brianpatrick]

No, I was discussing loyalty to the country they worked for, right or left. And it's not just temperament. Science has already discovered that the human brain works on different levels re emotion, etc, and they can rather safely predict where you're likely to fall politically just by performing a directed brain scan.
The 'classic liberals' are now called 'conservatives'. Modern 'liberals' don't even know there is an iceberg.
Too late.
I'm not sounding any alarm. I'm simply pointing out what's going on and people can take it or leave it.

Google classical liberalism. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

 

[Carl Young]

Google classical liberalism. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

Okay.

"Classical liberalism is a type of liberalism. It is a belief in economics and a political ideology. It is about civil and economic freedom. Classical liberals believe in a small government, and believe that people will be ruled mostly by natural law".

Does that sound like a modern liberal to you?

 

[Nickyjo]

I don't see anything racist or white supremacist about what he is saying in that video. He is talking about the mass importation of illegal immigrants at the expense of legal American citizens.

I saw his comments and he didn't mention illegals. And of course, there is no mass importation of illegal immigrants. We do "import" numbers of legal immigrants and some refugees from overseas. Illegals come here well, illegally, and we can return them. And we have a legal obligation to asylum seekers, if their claims are valid.

I have never seen anyone argue that we should restrict immigration because it dilutes their vote. Of course, by Tucker's logic pregnant women should abort their fetuses because in 18 years -- more dilution of Tucker's vote. Will the horror never end? Weird.

Tucker is just a spoiled rich kid, with comments so absurd his own network tells us not to take him seriously. Keep it up, Tucker: insult blacks, Latinos, women, immigrants, and the media. You'll gather street cred with Trump's crazies and may stumble into a nomination, if you promise to pardon Donald.

 

[brianpatrick]

Okay.

"Classical liberalism is a type of liberalism. It is a belief in economics and a political ideology. It is about civil and economic freedom. Classical liberals believe in a small government, and believe that people will be ruled mostly by natural law".

Does that sound like a modern liberal to you?

Yes. Almost all the liberals I know. To be fair, almost all center right too. The fringes on both ends are the noisy ones crying about the sky falling. To be honest, the majority of people in the US are not political at all really. We’ve gone hyper partisan fairly recently, but there’s so much of that that is just actors playing the public against each other for profit.

btw, your definition is narrower than the whole philosophy.

 

[Carl Young]

Yes. Almost all the liberals I know. To be fair, almost all center right too. The fringes on both ends are the noisy ones crying about the sky falling. To be honest, the majority of people in the US are not political at all really. We’ve gone hyper partisan fairly recently, but there’s so much of that that is just actors playing the public against each other for profit.

btw, your definition is narrower than the whole philosophy.

Yes, I realize the definition was too narrow but it made the quick point that today's liberals are, indeed, not all that liberal. In fact they're the mother of 'cancel culture', censorship, and 'eat the rich'.

Also agree that not everyone is political. These are the people who expect the government - the politicians and the bureaucracy - to do the jobs they're paid to do without overextending their powers. However that confidence the middle had in their government has been seriously eroded, largely due to the overt lies and incompetence by its leaders and with no little or no consequences.

When the Tea Party organized to protest their high taxes and bureaucratic dishonesty (Lois Lerner comes to mind) they were branded as 'racist', 'homophobic' and all the familiar slurs we've come to expect from the hugely powerful MSM. Eventually, after being harassed by the media and their government for years, they just gave up. Only leftist protests are now allowed by the government and they will not be stopped, no matter the violence or destruction.

So we should all ask ourselves who, or even what, is behind all of this? And why is it happening?

 

[brianpatrick]

Yes, I realize the definition was too narrow but it made the quick point that today's liberals are, indeed, not all that liberal. In fact they're the mother of 'cancel culture', censorship, and 'eat the rich'.

Also agree that not everyone is political. These are the people who expect the government - the politicians and the bureaucracy - to do the jobs they're paid to do without overextending their powers. However that confidence the middle had in their government has been seriously eroded, largely due to the overt lies and incompetence by its leaders and with no little or no consequences.

When the Tea Party organized to protest their high taxes and bureaucratic dishonesty (Lois Lerner comes to mind) they were branded as 'racist', 'homophobic' and all the familiar slurs we've come to expect from the hugely powerful MSM. Eventually, after being harassed by the media and their government for years, they just gave up. Only leftist protests are now allowed by the government and they will not be stopped, no matter the violence or destruction.

So we should all ask ourselves who, or even what, is behind all of this? And why is it happening?

Yes, and Obama shut down Occupy Wall Street which at its roots was talking about similar things, and was primarily a liberal movement. The whackos didn’t help, but they rarely do. I’m not saying we don’t have a corruption problem, we do. Congress is broken. The system we developed is straining under the exponential growth of tech and the internet phenomenon. There are massive legal definitions that need to be worked out with regard to all kinds of questions.

I think you’re confusing liberals with the whackos on the far left, or the corporate yes men elected to office after being sanctioned by a DNC blessing. Those aren’t usually the liberals actually. They’re just the ones the MSM shows you to piss you off. Of course they do that so they get ratings, and it works.

 

[Carl Young]

Yes, and Obama shut down Occupy Wall Street which at its roots was talking about similar things, and was primarily a liberal movement. The whackos didn’t help, but they rarely do. I’m not saying we don’t have a corruption problem, we do. Congress is broken. The system we developed is straining under the exponential growth of tech and the internet phenomenon. There are massive legal definitions that need to be worked out with regard to all kinds of questions.

I think you’re confusing liberals with the whackos on the far left, or the corporate yes men elected to office after being sanctioned by a DNC blessing. Those aren’t usually the liberals actually. They’re just the ones the MSM shows you to piss you off. Of course they do that so they get ratings, and it works.

Thanks. I hope you're right.

 

[ecofarm]

"More people dilutes my vote!"

So if there was a way to increase the power of a vote, say... a lowering of the population... Wouldn't it be Tucky's Guaranteed at Birth Right to pursue that end? I mean, in the name of democracy.

 

[brianpatrick]

"More people dilutes my vote!"

So if there was a way to increase the power of a vote, say... a lowering of the population... Wouldn't it be Tucky's Guaranteed at Birth Right to pursue that end? I mean, in the name of democracy.

Are you saying that Tucker and the GOP elite (including but not limited to Trump) convinced millions of conservative Americans not to believe in Covid or the measures to mitigate it, so that more of them would die and then we’d all feel sorry for them and let them have some more senate seats? Because that’s kind of a convoluted plan.

 

[ecofarm]

Are you saying that Tucker and the GOP elite (including but not limited to Trump) convinced millions of conservative Americans not to believe in Covid or the measures to mitigate it, so that more of them would die and then we’d all feel sorry for them and let them have some more senate seats? Because that’s kind of a convoluted plan.

Apparently some ideas only win with population control.

 

[What if...?]

Guess they should have built a wall and improved border security. That's why it's good to plan ahead.

Or we could go after folks wwho hire illegals and establish a functional seasonal worker program.

But that doesn't show how big our dicks are.

 

[ecofarm]

"We have great ideas, persuasive arguments and meaningful values, but we can't explain that if there's too many people. Once there's too many people, our ideas become invisible."

Like that makes sense.

 

[brianpatrick]

Or we could go after folks wwho hire illegals and establish a functional seasonal worker program.

But that doesn't show how big our dicks are.

Yeah but with that worker program they get uppity and want decent working conditions. Then a Cesar Chavez comes along and teaches them how to be treated fairly and the whole thing gets spoiled.

 

[calamity]

"We have great ideas, persuasive arguments and meaningful values, but we can't explain that if there's too many people. Once there's too many people, our ideas become invisible."

Like that makes sense.

When I listened to Tucker's rant the first time, my immediate thought was that those thirteen colonies sure must have felt "replaced" when we brought onboard fifty states.

In other words, Tucker is a weasel selling fools' gold to fools. I believe many of the responses in this thread bear that out.