Tucker Carlson Goes Full Incel

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I think it’s the other way around. People are uneducated and unskilled because society has eliminated all incentives to be. Especially marriage. My great grandparents were married before my great grandfather had his first job, their first child was born while he was in Italy in WW2. We also have de-emphasized religion, so there’s no spiritual or family motivation to improve yourself and you begin to view yourself as a victim of society. People are not pursuing skills or education because of the breakdown in traditional family, the breakdown is not being caused by economic reasons


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No one who talks like you could possibly have any spiritual capital valued by anyone other than Satan.
Your God is Mammon.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

No, I didn’t see the Rest of your post because I was using tapatalk. I only saw the first half and not the argument below. I’m working on the response to that.

Blames tapatalk. :lamo

 

[Kobie]

This guy is the triggered hero for many on the right who couldn't get what they wanted out of life...He is NOT a journalist.



Tucker Carlson Blames Higher-Earning Women For ‘Men In Decline’


He writes about it too....
Tucker Carlson: A mob of angry children doesn't want you to know why the American Dream is dying

Christ, he's a bozo.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Yes but higher income for skill is for many an abstract concept. There is a tendency to not want to improve if you’re doing well enough or if you believe for whatever reason you can’t do better. I have tried to get people jobs making twice what they made and they refused for various reasons that make no rational sense to me.

Mealy mouthed fact free emotional excuse.
"I tried to help them but they didn't want my help. Thus they are not only doomed to failure without my help, they also represent American workers!"

Yeah, and "Q" represents investigative reporting, I'm sure.

this is cherry picking, first off I am not comparing us to Norway as it exists today, I’m comparing US society to how we existed 60 years ago as a benchmark.

Sixty years ago was 1959 and America's economy was roaring thanks to the New Deal, Eisenhower's real actual genuine "compassionate conservatism" and a tax system that incentivized investment in a skilled workforce.

You should LOVE FDR style democratic socialism, by cracky.

(Yes, this IS a real 1956 poster)

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

That's a misdemeanor : Da more they miss, da meaner they get.

We saw your hero Elliot Rodger already. Amazing that you laud him as you do.
Tick tock...tick tock...tick tock.

 

[Gondwanaland]

This guy is the triggered hero for many on the right who couldn't get what they wanted out of life...He is NOT a journalist.



Tucker Carlson Blames Higher-Earning Women For ‘Men In Decline’


He writes about it too....
Tucker Carlson: A mob of angry children doesn't want you to know why the American Dream is dying

Looks like someone using words he doesn't understand to try to insult Carlson.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The endless absurd claim of the leftwing that the solution is for everyone to get a MBA and everyone become a CEO. The contempt of the leftwing of blue collar workers now is absolute to the point of hatred.

Your comprehension is so far off the scale it goes beyond absurdity.
First, blue collar jobs are an endangered species except for the classic trades. I support anybody who has the ability to learn and practice one of the trades, but beyond that there is only manufacturing, which is (A) becoming increasingly automated by advanced robotics and artificial intelligence.
The jobs that involve men (and women) rolling up sleeves and making stuff are on the decline, and the ones which weren't automated were given away to China long ago, and if they ever come back, they too will be largely automated.

Enter a new trade, designing, maintaining, programming and implementing robotics. It requires a great deal of training and skill.
I can tell by reading this last post of yours that you've never had a blue collar manufacturing job in your entire life, or if so, it was more than thirty years ago.

MY FIRST real W-2 job, at sixteen, was in the factory that made the very first computer modems, in 1972. They were the size of a small microwave oven and cost several thousand dollars in 1972 money. I started out stuffing parts into circuit boards, got promoted to running the automated wave solder machinery, then moved into QC.
I was also finishing up high school part time in the mornings. I could have graduated in my sophomore year but I was young and stupid and blew the chance so my next year consisted of two morning classes, and I graduated in my junior year instead.

I've assembled electronics, made lamps, made wooden pallets, done plastic injection molding, even assembled automobile differentials.
But each of those manufacturing jobs paid less and less and less as the years went by. That first job at Penril Data (1979 WaPo article) earned me enough to buy a car, rent an apartment, buy food, have a social life and dress in style, and it was almost part time, 34 hours per week.

The successive manufacturing jobs barely earned me enough to keep a roof over my head and only when combined with my wife or girlfriend's income, and they were all full time.

You dream of a blue collar America that was already beginning to disappear back when Bruce Springsteen mourned for them back in 1980.

 

[Mr Person]

Speak for yourself.

I'm educated and skilled. Then again, my parents weren't conservatives or big-L libertarians who think public education is useless and that higher education merely brainwashes students into being liberal elites.

:shrug:

Give you this much: if modern conservative thought wins out, a whole lot more people will be uneducated and unskilled because that thought winning out means the essential death of public education, which in turn would mean that far fewer people who want an education will be able to pay to privately get it. Whether federally or on the state level, the GOP is always trying to slash funding and programs regarding education.

Which is a massive straw man argument.

See? You don't even know what a "straw man argument" actually is.

You just wanted to say something that sounded punchy.

No, I didn’t see the Rest of your post because I was using tapatalk. I only saw the first half and not the argument below. I’m working on the response to that.

Hopefully nothing bad happened. You seem to have went poof.

Here's a little expansion: just look at the policy proposals, just look at what is said on sites like this. It's dressed up in language about improving things, but it's really just hoping that government doesn't put as much money in and things still work out. Private schools will prevail because free market. It's absurd.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Tucker is doing just fine. Ratings through the roof!! And the left loves to hate him!

Carlson's ratings on Fox closing in on O'Reilly's

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/385492-carlsons-ratings-on-fox-closing-in-on-oreillys

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" averaged more than 2.9 million total viewers in the first three months of the year.
Aug. 28, 2018
https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/the-top-cable-news-programs-of-august-2018-are/375391
Tucker Carlson Tonight (2,552,000) / +3 percent / 19 telecasts

Fox News Crushes The Cable News Competition In October Ratings
Oct 30, 2018
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2018/10/30/fox-news-crushes-the-cable-news-competition-in-october-ratings/#5b251ce96cc1

FNC ran the table with the top-five most-watched shows in prime, with Hannity followed by Tucker Carlson (3.231 million), Laura Ingraham (2.973 million), The Five (2.838 million) and Special Report with Bret Baier (2.668 million).

 

[Oborosen]

He is a fear mongering fool...Pushing conspiracy theory's based on bigotry and intolerance

Hey, leave CNN out of this.

 

[Oborosen]

None of that addresses tax loopholes and only 1 mentions the rich and instead is about corporations.

He's just grasping for straws at this point. You really shouldn't have been surprised with his response at this point, because I know I wasn't.

 

[Oborosen]

Isn’t it telling the democrats entire political agenda is based on increasing taxes in the fewer and fewer people actually paying them?

Shhh.. don't ruin it.
I like watching him fumble around in the dark like this.

It's pretty telling just how well equipped the Democrats servants are. Don't you think?

 

[Oborosen]

So the next time Don Lemon calls for all white men to be killed and/or imprisoned. I can make my own little thread about that as well?

Good, because I'm about ready to treat all of this stupidity as fair game.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

^ Summary of your claims: 1) marriage is terrible, 2) men are terrible and 3) every man born in the bottom 50% IQ of the population probably should just kill himself because society has so economically collapsed there is no place for them socially or economically.

Obviously you blame 70% of black children not having their (black) fathers on black men, correct? No one has anyone to blame but those children themselves.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to come naturally to you. No one is saying marriage is terrible or men are terrible.

1. Women now have an option of supporting themselves as most careers are now open to them.

2. Everyone needs to be either educated or skilled to get a good job. You don't need a doctorate to be successful, but you do need to be skilled - example: electrician, plumber, diesel mechanic and so on.

3. Any man or woman that skirts their responsibility as a parent is a piece of **** regardless of their race, religion, or whatever.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Yes but higher income for skill is for many an abstract concept. There is a tendency to not want to improve if you’re doing well enough or if you believe for whatever reason you can’t do better. I have tried to get people jobs making twice what they made and they refused for various reasons that make no rational sense to me. If you are responsible for supporting others though improvement is more then an abstract.

this is cherry picking, first off I am not comparing us to Norway as it exists today, I’m comparing US society to how we existed 60 years ago as a benchmark. Norwegian Americans in general have high incomes and over 90% of those who claim Norwegian as their primary ancestry are religious in the US. You can make this argument several ways. Oh unlike the Democrats the Norwegians have problem drilling mother Gaia for all that oil wealth, and they’re a country of 5 million people. That’s a cherry picking of the first order.



That is a frequent criticism of Tucker, Ben Shapiro has debated Tucker on this and National Review wrote about it yesterday. No one is perfect and his economic nationalism are not good policies, but attacking Tucker’s audience is not a rebuttal of arguments he presents on the show




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60 years ago the United States was the only large economy on earth that wasn't crippled in the aftermath of World War II. Prior to World War II we were still a developing economy. You can't compare those periods to today. Moreover, even if you do, poverty rates are much lower today than they were then, and the average American today has a much higher standard of living.

 

[calamity]

This guy is the triggered hero for many on the right who couldn't get what they wanted out of life...He is NOT a journalist.



Tucker Carlson Blames Higher-Earning Women For ‘Men In Decline’


He writes about it too....
Tucker Carlson: A mob of angry children doesn't want you to know why the American Dream is dying

Tucker Carlson is a wimp. Men are certainly not helping themselves by listening to him.

 

[Saladin4]

Hey, leave CNN out of this.

You seem confused Tucker is the pudgy fool on FOX, the same Network that has other white bigots fear mongering and pushing conspiracy theory's...Now you know

 

[Kobie]

Tucker is doing just fine. Ratings through the roof!! And the left loves to hate him!

Carlson's ratings on Fox closing in on O'Reilly's

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/385492-carlsons-ratings-on-fox-closing-in-on-oreillys

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" averaged more than 2.9 million total viewers in the first three months of the year.
Aug. 28, 2018
https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/the-top-cable-news-programs-of-august-2018-are/375391
Tucker Carlson Tonight (2,552,000) / +3 percent / 19 telecasts

Fox News Crushes The Cable News Competition In October Ratings
Oct 30, 2018
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2018/10/30/fox-news-crushes-the-cable-news-competition-in-october-ratings/#5b251ce96cc1

FNC ran the table with the top-five most-watched shows in prime, with Hannity followed by Tucker Carlson (3.231 million), Laura Ingraham (2.973 million), The Five (2.838 million) and Special Report with Bret Baier (2.668 million).


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All that proves is that there’s a huge market for bull****.

 

[calamity]

All that proves is that there’s a huge market for bull****.

...and a lot of stupid people on the Right.

 

[ElChupacabra]

It was an extremely thoughtful Op-Ed in which he cited numerous studies, including by organizations considered leftwing leaning such as the Brookings Institute.

The core premise is that most women will not marry a man who makes less money that she does - where most men do not look for women who make more than he does. Because so many women measure relationship potential on whether she gains economically and increasingly men can not find decent jobs due to decline in manufacturing and millions upon millions of unskilled migrants driving down wages, marriage and two parent families continues to decline.

But the SJWs have an ongoing War On Truth so absolutely NOTHING more infuriates them than facts and truth. Not one leftwing message above addresses anything he said, They just make generic ranting character attacks as usual.

So what, in your opinion, is the solution?

 

[joko104]

So what, in your opinion, is the solution?

Border security.
E-verify required for employment.
Increase the criminalization for illegally being in the USA.
Eliminate standardized school testing.
End urging everyone go to universities - all government backed - to being replaced with post graduation trade and technical education with government support.
Tariffs to offset cheap child labor sweatshop products.
The federal government to subsidize key manufacturing sectors.
Eliminate or reduce social programs for non-senior adults capable of working.
Universal flat tax to eliminate loopholes by which the super wealthy pay nothing.
All sales of anything within the USA are taxable as income within the USA regardless of corporate HQ location.
Substantial tax for transferring money beyond nominal sums out of the USA.

For starters.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Border security.
E-verify required for employment.
Increase the criminalization for illegally being in the USA.
Eliminate standardized school testing.
End urging everyone go to universities - all government backed - to being replaced with post graduation trade and technical education with government support.
Tariffs to offset cheap child labor sweatshop products.
The federal government to subsidize key manufacturing sectors.
Eliminate or reduce social programs for non-senior adults capable of working.
Universal flat tax to eliminate loopholes by which the super wealthy pay nothing.
All sales of anything within the USA are taxable as income within the USA regardless of corporate HQ location.
Substantial tax for transferring money beyond nominal sums out of the USA.

For starters.

I was referring to the OP about the decline of the American Man due to high wage earning women.

 

[Buzz62]

Tucker Carlson is a wimp. Men are certainly not helping themselves by listening to him.

Just an example but...does anyone else find it "interesting" that the left's main arguments are based on supposition and their precious "feewings"???

 

[American]

This guy is the triggered hero for many on the right who couldn't get what they wanted out of life...He is NOT a journalist.



Tucker Carlson Blames Higher-Earning Women For ‘Men In Decline’


He writes about it too....
Tucker Carlson: A mob of angry children doesn't want you to know why the American Dream is dying

So you didn't know this about women? I didn't need Carlson's article to know that. This isn't even news, but I guess that's why you posted it where you did. So did you find those studies that dispute the fact that women prefer men that make more than they do?

 

[Obscurity]

I despise Tuckface, but, he is onto something here.