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Ignoring facts for your party. All while claiming you are doing no such thing. How many incidents have I posted? Is everyone lying but you and the TSA, hero? :roll:
What I object to is the silliness of calling this fondling, feeling up or groping when that is clearly not what is happening.
Posting the same type of hyperbolic exaggerations do not constitute posting facts. People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.
If the government beat you over the head with a bat and called it shiny happy time, as long as the prez was a democrat, you'd be right there calling it shiny happy time. :shrug:
Tell me are ALL these people lying, hero?
3rd time I asked.
I find it disturbing that there are so many willing to jump on the side of government in this case. Be it excuses from "you waved your rights" to "they're keeping us safe"; there has been much argument for this type of expansion of government against the rights of the individual. I find it unfortunate that people will argue for the Catch-22 in which the People have no ability to affect the system or bring government under control. It's hard to imagine what sort of fear would prompt one to support draconian and obviously intrusive, big brother tactics against the People.
Posting the same type of hyperbolic exaggerations do not constitute posting facts. People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.
Posting the same type of hyperbolic exaggerations do not constitute posting facts. People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.
I did, but you obviously didn't notice. But here's the other shoe.
Body-scanner makers spent millions on lobbying - USATODAY.com
Ah. You're the one who considers any dissenting opinion a "hyperbolic exaggeration." How grand it must be for you to consistently try to evade points and arguments.
I find it disturbing that there are so many willing to jump on the side of government in this case. Be it excuses from "you waved your rights" to "they're keeping us safe"; there has been much argument for this type of expansion of government against the rights of the individual. I find it unfortunate that people will argue for the Catch-22 in which the People have no ability to affect the system or bring government under control. It's hard to imagine what sort of fear would prompt one to support draconian and obviously intrusive, big brother tactics against the People.
Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
Constantly dismissing the many complaints as exaggerations and lies is not much of an argument.
Exactly. My own grandparents were, ah, frisked. Apparently Boo agrees with anything the government does; personal experience by people being affected by this issue directly be damned, it seems.
No. But you can't argue they were fondled, or felt up. You might argue that they weren't likely to be terrorist and therefore not a good candidate for being frisked.
Will you be answering my question?
Do you think they are all lying? Including the 38 year veteran flight attendant?
4th request.
4th time I've answered. I think they are being hyperbolic and exaggerating. There is no way what is authorized to do and what they report is equal to fondling, copping a feel, or groping. You don't have to lie to overreact. And as a critical thinker, you don't just accept what they say, you actually look at the procedures and what was done.
Is the breast cancer surviver's tale of having to remove her prosthetic breast hyberbolic too? Do you have any freaking idea how painful, demeaning and absolutely horrible that was for her? Was the bladder cancer survivor's tears an exaggeration? Was he just putting on a show, or do you think he was HUMILIATED because he was in a busy airport soaked in his own urine?? Good Lord, boy. Either you're so full of partisan narcotics, or you have no feelings what-so-ever. I strongly suggest, as a fellow human being, you take a step back and think about these people just for a minute. Forget the partisan crap. Right now, this isn't a partisan issue. It's an American issue, and every American should be horrified by these stories.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: "Did they touch your body parts?"
GLORIA ALLRED: "Yeah, they did and it was a first time anybody touched them in a long time and frankly, I liked it."
Rather emotional rendings to be sure, but not really something that should have caused any such reaction. They weere not fonldled or gropped or felt up, which is what I'm objecting to. With proper care, and a female staff memeber in a private place, why would these things be tramatic? Are we not adults? Or must we take everything to the exaggerated extreme?
To characterize TSA pat-downs as fondling is hyperbole-and-a-half. First, the odds of your daughter being patted down are slim to none on any particular flight. Second, these pat downs are not done by pedophiles, for heaven's sake. Third, however you characterize this to your daughter is egzakly how she's going to react. "Standard procedure"? "Groping and Fondling"? Which is it?
Yes! Of course you have the right to protest this invasive procedure. What you don't have is a right to fly.
This discussion has, as usual, taken off into the wild blue yonder.
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