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TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check

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mere mindless argumentation: sure, he was humiliated, sure, she's pissed, sure, the ny city council will nix the intrusions---but no one was FONDLED

LOL!

why, look it up in your funk and wagnall's

I can't take Boo Dudley seriously any more. Can't. Won't.

People are pissed at being felt up and this idiot thinks: "Oh no, even though they feel violated I know better. You weren't fondled even though you feel like it. You know, you 100+ people who feel this way: you're all stupid. You couldn't have been fondled even though they put their hands everywhere whilst trying to find things in folds and crevices, ie; "junk.""

Yep, I sympathize with you, Boo.
 
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RealClearPolitics - Video - Hillary Clinton "Would Avoid" TSA Pat Downs

schieffer (he's the host of face the nation which is a tv show on cbs on sunday mornings): "would you submit to one of these pat downs?"

hillary: "not if i could avoid it, i mean, who would?"

bennie thompson (chair of house homeland security, which is a committee) and sheila jackson lee (everyone knows her---LOL!): "runs afoul of privacy and civil liberties"

no FONDLE

just a PROBLEM

i mean, who would?

LOL!
 
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4th time I've answered. I think they are being hyperbolic and exaggerating. There is no way what is authorized to do and what they report is equal to fondling, copping a feel, or groping. You don't have to lie to overreact. And as a critical thinker, you don't just accept what they say, you actually look at the procedures and what was done.




All of em eh? I pity you. :roll:
 

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Rather emotional rendings to be sure, but not really something that should have caused any such reaction. They weere not fonldled or gropped or felt up, which is what I'm objecting to. With proper care, and a female staff memeber in a private place, why would these things be tramatic? Are we not adults? Or must we take everything to the exaggerated extreme?




Pathetic. Utterly pathetic.
 

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I can't take Boo Dudley seriously any more. Can't. Won't.

who could take seriously someone who doesn't have enough self respect to take responsibility for the things he or she says?

all that's left is in your face
 

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Thomas Sawyer, a bladder cancer survivor, said he was humiliated after a pat-down broke his urostomy bag, leaving the 61-year-old covered in his own urine. Sawyer said he warned the TSA officials twice that the pat-down could break the seal.

Cathy Bossi, a long-time flight attendant and breast cancer survivor, said the TSA made her take off her prosthetic breast.

"She put her full hand on my breast and said, 'What is this?' I said 'It's a prosthesis because I've had a breast cancer,'" Bossi said. "And she said, 'You'll need to show me that.'"

In recent days, several passengers have come forward to tell such shocking stories about their experiences with TSA officers.

An ABC News employee said she was subject to a "demeaning" search at Newark Liberty International Airport Sunday morning.

"The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around," she said. "It was basically worse than going to the gynecologist. It was embarrassing. It was demeaning. It was inappropriate."

they must have lost their dictionaries

LOL!

meanwhile:

Passengers aren't the only ones calling for a new look at security procedures.

TSA screeners are also fed up with the blame being leveled at them and agree that a better system is needed, according to travel blogger Steven Frischling, who spoke to 20 officers about the new procedures and pat downs.

"The frontline people have significant problems with it," he said. "They feel they are handing suggestions up the chain and they're simply not being listened to."

The screeners told Frischling about their discomfort at touching people's private parts, and getting verbally abused by some passengers.

TSA Responds to Passenger Outrages: Underwear Search Should 'Never' Happen - ABC News
 

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I'm a little concerned that you think an article on lobbying does thie:

People overreacting is evidence of actual fondling or groping or feeling up. You have to first show someone actually doing those things, and then you have to show that is what the TSA intended. You have not done that.

I have to say you have not shown either. Sorry.

I'll let you scroll back to see where I do. Not my job to repeat things for you.
 

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I'll let you scroll back to see where I do. Not my job to repeat things for you.

The article you listed with your comment didn't. It's not my job to read yuour mind as to what you're talking about either.

BTW, the fellow with the urostomy bag was on CNN today and he was quite reasonable. He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately. Go figure. :coffeepap
 

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I can't take Boo Dudley seriously any more. Can't. Won't.

People are pissed at being felt up and this idiot thinks: "Oh no, even though they feel violated I know better. You weren't fondled even though you feel like it. You know, you 100+ people who feel this way: you're all stupid. You couldn't have been fondled even though they put their hands everywhere whilst trying to find things in folds and crevices, ie; "junk.""

Yep, I sympathize with you, Boo.

No one has been fondled, felt up or gropped. It is hyperbolic exaggeration to say they have.
 

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The article you listed with your comment didn't. It's not my job to read yuour mind as to what you're talking about either.

BTW, the fellow with the urostomy bag was on CNN today and he was quite reasonable. He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately. Go figure. :coffeepap
Quite reasonable, and of course the TSA did a superb job, right? No doubt he'd do it all over again.
 

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You know what, Boo? It's obvious that you or a loved one have never suffered the loss that cancer delivers. Get on your knees and thank the Heavens that you have no idea what these people were feeling. That's all I have to say about your inhuman and vile response.

You would be wrong. Not the first time mind mind you, and it is no surprise that you would be hyperboilic and exaggerate the content of my response. Seems to be a habit on this thread, which might explian how a pat down becomes feeling up and fondling. Not that a pat down is actually feeling up or fondling. But, the exaggerations are consistent at any rate.
 

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The article you listed with your comment didn't. It's not my job to read yuour mind as to what you're talking about either.

BTW, the fellow with the urostomy bag was on CNN today and he was quite reasonable. He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately. Go figure. :coffeepap

You're right, Sawyer is a very reasonable man... too bad his TSA "fondler" wasn't. Sawyer described the event as a horrible nightmare in the interview and that TSA needs to train its employees better or stop the pat downs.

I did not hear him claim anyone was reporting his feelings or story inaccurately? Did you simply make that up ??

If Sawyer wasn't treated unfairly, why did TSA call him to apologize ???
 
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Rather emotional rendings to be sure, but not really something that should have caused any such reaction. They weere not fonldled or gropped or felt up, which is what I'm objecting to. With proper care, and a female staff memeber in a private place, why would these things be tramatic? Are we not adults? Or must we take everything to the exaggerated extreme?

We're all adults, including the little boy who had to remove his shirt? You have some issues buddy.
 

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The article you listed with your comment didn't. It's not my job to read yuour mind as to what you're talking about either.

BTW, the fellow with the urostomy bag was on CNN today and he was quite reasonable. He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately. Go figure. :coffeepap

Here's an AP video interview...


CNN interview...
http://amfix.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/22/cancer-survivor-humiliated-from-tsa-pat-down/
Not once does he make the claim you did in bold.

Response?
 
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Here's an AP video interview...

Not once does he make the claim you did in bold.

Response?

Boo would say, "What's the big deal?"
 

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Boo would say, "What's the big deal?"

It was a problem, but not fondling or feeling up. As this person noted, it was merely inexperience in dealing with people with a medical condition. He was not hateful or hyperbolic, but someone making a reasonable argument. And has even been asked to help train, and he is considering it.

Do you see the difference yet?
 

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It was a problem, but not fondling or feeling up. As this person noted, it was merely inexperience in dealing with people with a medical condition. He was not hateful or hyperbolic, but someone making a reasonable argument. And has even been asked to help train, and he is considering it.

Do you see the difference yet?

Actually, we were referring to this comment you made...

He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately

...which is not supported by the actual video of the interview you said you saw. That was what I was looking for a response on... the fact that you attributed a statement to the guy that he did not actually make.
 

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Actually, we were referring to this comment you made...



...which is not supported by the actual video of the interview you said you saw. That was what I was looking for a response on... the fact that you attributed a statement to the guy that he did not actually make.

And I respond to you above. Get me a second to listen to it again. ;)
 

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lol.. post-cross syndrome.

No problem.

Listen to this. "he had some of the story mixed up, and I said no problem, a lot of people do at this point."

This was what I heard, admittedly in passing.
 

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No problem.

Listen to this. "he had some of the story mixed up, and I said no problem, a lot of people do at this point."

This was what I heard, admittedly in passing.

just a wee bit different than 'He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately'... lol
 

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just a wee bit different than 'He also made the statement that many were reporting his feeling and the story inaccurately'... lol

There is. I accept that.
 
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