SAN DIEGO — John Tyner won't be pheasant hunting in South Dakota with his father-in-law any time soon.
Tyner was simultaneously thrown out of San Diego International Airport on Saturday morning for refusing to submit to a security check and threatened with a civil suit and $10,000 fine if he left.
And he got the whole thing on his cell phone. Well, the audio at least.
The 31-year-old Oceanside software programmer was supposed to leave from Lindbergh Field on Saturday morning and until a TSA agent directed him toward one of the recently installed full-body scanners, Tyner seemed to be on his way.
Tyner balked.
He also did something that may seem odd to some, manipulative to others but fortuitous to plenty of others for whom Tyner is becoming something of a folk hero: Tyner turned on his cell phone's video camera and placed it atop the luggage he sent through the x-ray machine.
He may not be the first traveler tossed from an airport for security reasons but he could well be the first to have the whole experience captured on his cell phone.
During the next half-hour, his cell phone recorded Tyner refusing to submit to a full body scan, opting for the traditional metal scanner and a basic "pat down" -- and then refusing to submit to a "groin check" by a TSA security guard.
He even told the guard, "You touch my junk and I'm going to have you arrested."
That threat triggered a code red of sorts as TSA agents, supervisors and eventually the local police gravitated to the spot where the reluctant traveler stood in his stocking feet, his cell phone sitting in the nearby bin (which he wasn't allowed to touch) picking up the audio.
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Once he threatened to have the TSA agent arrested though, events turned surreal.
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His father-in-law, a 40 year retired deputy sheriff can be heard pleading in the back ground for some common sense.
Two hours later he wrote the whole experience up on his blog and posted the audio files to YouTube.
You could say it has gone viral.
TSA ejects Oceanside man from airport for refusing security check - SignOnSanDiego.com
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The guy's a total idiot. I hope they file a suit against him.
The guy's a total idiot. I hope they file a suit against him.
The guy's a total idiot. I hope they file a suit against him.
Then I don't suppose you would have signed the Declaration of Independence if you'd been around and asked to. They took more risk than this guy.
Did you watch the video? If you have supervisors and workers telling you that you need to leave the screening area and then they tell you that because you listened to them you are subject to a $10,000 fine, how is the guy being the idiot?
The guy refused the screening process (his right to), they told him that he needed to leave the airport (which he was complying), and then they are the ones that are continuing the idiocy by telling him he needs to go back and complete the screening.
I hope the guy ends up suing TSA and winning.
I learned a long time ago not to argue with coppers in the street. These people are the "next best thing." He's lucky he got his money back....nice of the airlines, actually, as I don't think he should have. TSA officers are doing their best to enforce very unpopular laws. They're doing it to keep us safe. If this jerk couldn't understand that and cut them a little slack, then he's an idiot. And I don't want him on my airplane.
I can see that they may have wanted to question him further. Guy with bomb in his underwear refuses to be patted down at the checkpoint. They send him on his way, and he blows up the Ticket Counter. We'd all be shouting, "JFG!!!! They had 'im at at the checkpoint and they let him go??????
I learned a long time ago not to argue with coppers in the street. These people are the "next best thing." He's lucky he got his money back....nice of the airlines, actually, as I don't think he should have. TSA officers are doing their best to enforce very unpopular laws. They're doing it to keep us safe. If this jerk couldn't understand that and cut them a little slack, then he's an idiot. And I don't want him on my airplane.
I can see that they may have wanted to question him further. Guy with bomb in his underwear refuses to be patted down at the checkpoint. They send him on his way, and he blows up the Ticket Counter. We'd all be shouting, "JFG!!!! They had 'im at at the checkpoint and they let him go??????
It's not like he was trying to get out of a ticket. He has his first amendment rights.
Nothing short of cavity searches would stop a determined terrorist.
I'll be in Chicago for a few days; I hope there aren't any TSA folks like this there.
TSA is getting totally out of hand. I had the pleasure of watching them one day in a very long line Hartsfield-Jackson. I wouldnt trust these people running a hotdog stand much less the country security. I watched Arab looking persons walk through without any troubles yet the blue hair, Vegas bound, losing the retirement money grampma gets hassled. And the black guy in a suit that gets pushed around by some fat black your babies momma being a bitch to this dude because he worked his ass off to be where he is at and her fatass is on some power trip making 10 bucks an hour!
When he bought his ticket, he bought into TSA's rules and regs.
Oh, yeah, right. You're forgetting Feet On Fire Abduhl and Loaded Briefs Al Asiri.
Can you show me where you sign away your rights when you buy a ticket on Orbitz? Maybe a screen shot?When he bought his ticket, he bought into TSA's rules and regs.
That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the TSA officials and everything to do with our country's refusal to profile. They're doing their jobs. They probably think it's stupid, too. Give 'em a break.
He accepted the regulations and left. Which ones did he continue to break?
Yeah, and they'll keep upping the ante until they have to do cavity searches on each passenger.
Can you show me where you sign away your rights when you buy a ticket on Orbitz? Maybe a screen shot?
Racial profiling is mathematically a worse choice than random screening, strange as that may sound.
No, purchasing a ticket doesn't "bind you" to security procedures, either. You're only bound to follow security procedures if you wish to access the gate, where a boarding pass is often but not always part of the screening process.You don't sign away your rights. When you purchase a ticket, you are legally bound to follow security procedures. If you don't, you don't get on the airplane. By law, it's part and parcel of flying. You don't have to submit to a search. They're not taking away your "rights." But if you don't voluntarily submit to a search, you don't fly. Last time I looked, "the right to fly" wasn't guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. Screen shot?
A TSA Supervisor wanted him to return to the checkpoint. Nuff said. TSA rules.
Blame government regulations, not the poor guys who are enforcing them at risk of losing their jobs.
They didn't really have a choice, did they? He didn't break any laws.I can see that they may have wanted to question him further. Guy with bomb in his underwear refuses to be patted down at the checkpoint. They send him on his way, and he blows up the Ticket Counter. We'd all be shouting, "JFG!!!! They had 'im at at the checkpoint and they let him go??????
No, purchasing a ticket doesn't "bind you" to security procedures, either. You're only bound to follow security procedures if you wish to access the gate, where a boarding pass is often but not always part of the screening process.
At no point in the process did this guy consent to follow security procedures. Not in purchasing his ticket, not in entering the airport, not in showing "intent" to board by getting in the security line. The first and only opportunity he had was when they were actually being performed. At that point he declined and there was NOTHING they could do about it because he was not "bound" or "required" in any way to submit.
They didn't really have a choice, did they? He didn't break any laws.
TSA isn't really in the business of identifying who may be a potential threat.
What in the world are you talking about? Stop splitting hairs into little tiny pigtails, for God's sake. If the guy wanted to fly, then the guy had to submit to security protocols. Simple as that.
When he bought his ticket, he bought into TSA's rules and regs.
What in the world are you talking about? Stop splitting hairs into little tiny pigtails, for God's sake. If the guy wanted to fly, then the guy had to submit to security protocols. Simple as that.
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