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Trump vows 'very long' government shutdown over border wall

Draining the Swamp - Lotsa RINOs
 
prometeus said:
No he is not. He is trying to build it for the morons who voted for hm and believed his lie. That is not America, only the stupid part of it.
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I wouldn't even say he's trying to build it for his supporters: he's lying about wanting to try to build it. That's many steps removed from getting it built. The bastard doesn't care if it never gets done: it's just great for getting a high school basketball stadium half filled with red hats (the rest empty seats) all fired up.
 
zimmer said:
No blue wave... just the typical occurrence... except Republicans picked up seats in the Senate.

Trump ran on the wall as a priority from Day 1... June 16, 2015.

Walls have worked everywhere they have been tried. Though most everything they tried failed spectacularly, even the Communists had a near perfect record of achievement with their walls.
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A. You forgot the part about Mexico paying for the wall. His cult loves his wall as long as someone else is paying for it.
B. There was no blue wave? Keep repeating that to yourself.
 
Not my decision.

However, 350,000 have been identified for this shutdown.

These nonessential employees cost $15 Billion/year.

This thread is fun as non essential Federal Employees risk their State Check to accommodate illegal immigrants.

At the end of the day, we should give the illegals the non essential (State Check) jobs, that are not funded.

Socialist choose not to understand the problem/concept.
 
BlueElk said:
Of course you can't see what you post is nonsense - That is a Catch 22. (Again)

Therefore, your apology must be accepted.
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I see your new here so first let me say welcome to the forum.

When your responding to another poster in the future you should quote the post your responding to so people can put your post into proper context.

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uptower said:
I wouldn't even say he's trying to build it for his supporters: he's lying about wanting to try to build it. That's many steps removed from getting it built. The bastard doesn't care if it never gets done: it's just great for getting a high school basketball stadium half filled with red hats (the rest empty seats) all fired up.
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This is uninspired and trite. This is nothing but a recycled attempt to discredit his sincerity from his campaign run. We heard how he really didnt want to be president he was only doing for brand recognition.

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marke said:
Of course democrats who stubbornly support open borders do not think a wall will work.
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I was talking about the very real attempts at compromise. BTW, ALL democrats don't "stubbornly support open borders", in fact few do. That's just the new right wing catch phrase created to justify the great wall of the Donald.
 
WCH said:
No bias there. The Left want open borders and aren't interested in protecting America...only getting new voters.
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Plenty of bias with you. Not building a piss ignorant wall doesn't equal open borders.... :roll:

This Leftie has scars to prove how committed he was to protecting America... how many Wall Wanters can claim the same???? :doh

I'd opine the tRumpers are getting the Left many more voters than anyone/thing else.... keep up the 'good' work... :peace
 
Taylor said:
What Trump said or didn't say is irrelevant. The majority in Congress wants the bill to pass, and Chuck Schumer is going to filibuster. To say he shares none of the blame for the shutdown is either ignorance, stupidity, or both.
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And to say what Trump said and DID as irrelevant shows no common sense on your behalf.
 
marke said:
Of course democrats who stubbornly support open borders do not think a wall will work.
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The truth is most Democrats, whether it be normal civilians or politicians, do not support open borders as they see the downsides to that. Yet they dont support the irrational way some people including the President and his loyal far-right supporters think we should handle it. Common knowledge to be honest.
 
ashurbanipal said:
Someone else has already asked, but I, too, am curious about any Democratic politicians who have called for open borders. I'm pretty liberal, but completely open borders doesn't accord with my views.
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Translated; I don't believe in borders.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/18/keith-ellison-national-borders-injustice/

Democrats [and other Globalist elites] can skirt around the issue of open borders but, your words and action say differently.

https://cis.org/Krikorian/Yes-Democrats-Are-Open-Borders
 
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tres borrachos said:
Please link us to the page of the "left" political platform that says they want open borders, don't care about protecting America, and only want new voters.
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Before you became one, you knew how Leftists never tell their true intentions. Hearken back to those days of yesteryear.
 
prometeus said:
Except that that is a moronic talking point fed to the low intellect Trump lemming. Can you name at least 6 people who support open borders and have influence?
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I cannot name one democrat who still wants the government to do something to stop illegal immigration, although I can name several prominent democrats who once favored closing the US border to illegal immigration.
 
rocket88 said:
The bill the Democrats agreed to included a lot for border security. Just not for a stupid wall. Keep tossing out the propaganda though, otherwise you have nothing to say.
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The border chief and agents on the ground want the wall.
 
Irwin Corey said:
Well … there you go again. Here's a bit of truth about the stimulus; again you've been duped by right wing propaganda.

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/05/522629542/fact-check-trumps-claim-2009-stimulus-measure-built-nothing
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No, sorry you buy what you want to hear and ignore the official data from bls.gov, bea.gov. and treasury.org. Reality, shovel ready jobs?? 142 million employed January 2009, 139 Million employed January 2011. That a success to you?

Totally ignored the links to the worst recovery in U.S. Modern History all because your ideology won't let you admit being wrong

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145122 145161 145673 145680 145825 146267 146401 146522 146752 147411 147391 147597
2015 148113 148100 148175 148505 148788 148806 148830 149136 148810 149254 149486 150135
2016 150576 151005 151229 150978 151048 151164 151484 151687 151815 151939 152126 152233
2017 152076 152511 153064 153161 152892 153250 153511 153471 154324 153846 153917 154021
2018 154430 155215 155178 155181 155474 155576 155965 155542 155962 156562 156795
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By the way please show me any official site that captures SAVED jobs?
 
Conservative said:
Yep you bought the left wing spin and lies, the data and the calendar prove you wrong but nothing changes the mind of a liberal ideologue. Obama gave us the worst recovery in history but convinced his supporters where perceptions are reality and actual results don't matter

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Conservative said:
Once again I will destroy the liberal myth about Obama bringing us out of recession. Please explain how he did that when very little if any of stimulus which he signed in February 2009 was spent by June when the recession ended

https://wallstreetpit.com/13300-what-ended-the-great-recession/

When I ask you to trust but verify exactly what did you verify about the so called Obama recovery, Certainly not this article or actually verify any results.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinquefield/2016/11/29/obama-and-the-dems-dismal-recovery/

https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/05/news/economy/us-recovery-slowest-since-wwii/index.html
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Conservative said:
No, sorry you buy what you want to hear and ignore the official data from bls.gov, bea.gov. and treasury.org. Reality, shovel ready jobs?? 142 million employed January 2009, 139 Million employed January 2011. That a success to you?

Totally ignored the links to the worst recovery in U.S. Modern History all because your ideology won't let you admit being wrong



By the way please show me any official site that captures SAVED jobs?
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You're late for your morning feeding of Vice President Anne Coulter's daily pabulum.
 
OscarLevant said:
Please supply quotations of any significant democrat who advocates open borders, noting that open borders means allowing everyone in.
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DNC deputy Keith Ellison. "Borders are an injustice"

 
Irwin Corey said:
You're late for your morning feeding of Vice President Anne Coulter's daily pabulum.
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Didn't realize Ann Coulter created the bureau of labor statistics, bureau of economic analysis and Treasury data. Why don't you call them and tell them they need better sources? Amazing how official data still doesn't resonate in your world as your ideology trumps that official data and you are so loyal that you cannot admit when wrong
 
notquiteright said:
Plenty of bias with you. Not building a piss ignorant wall doesn't equal open borders.... :roll:

This Leftie has scars to prove how committed he was to protecting America... how many Wall Wanters can claim the same???? :doh

I'd opine the tRumpers are getting the Left many more voters than anyone/thing else.... keep up the 'good' work... :peace
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A large percent f your brethren think open borders are nifty.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigra...n-borders-wind-up-closing-doors-for-democrats

I appreciate you served and sacrificed but, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
 
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