Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump?

[Ethel2]

My question is, are businesses going to start lining up to start businesses in China and want to deal with their government?

Is China a friendly country to do business in?

What part of “we aren’t discussing China” are you having trouble understanding?
Now answer my question or I’ll be forced to answer it for you. To refresh your memory the question is, “what businessman in his right mind would start a business HERE when they don’t know the ground rules “?
Let’s start there.

 

[Moi621]

How is the US the richest and most powerful country in the world and got scammed by every other country at the same time? How does that work?

It's termed, "Globalism"

Trump said in his first term
a nation's leaders should be nationalist.

I agree.​

Consider, who among Americans, profit via globalism

Oh, I Don't Know, could it be "the wealthiest

that run both parties and the media.​

"The wealthiest" certainly benefited in the
Obama, Biden/Harris administrations.

Consider the bill came due and Trump got stuck with it,
similar to Jimmy Carter's presidency.

Support Free Trade and reciprocal tariffs.
Limit exports of American food stuffs & animal feed.
etc.
Support American nationalism and monopoly laws

abused by the media.



Probably less than six now

​

 

[Yes_Minister]

It's termed, "Globalism"

Trump said in his first term
a nation's leaders should be nationalist.

I agree.​

Consider, who among Americans, profit via globalism

Oh, I Don't Know, could it be "the wealthiest

that run both parties and the media.​

"The wealthiest" certainly benefited in the
Obama, Biden/Harris administrations.

Consider the bill came due and Trump got stuck with it,
similar to Jimmy Carter's presidency.

Support Free Trade and reciprocal tariffs.
Limit exports of American food stuffs & animal feed.
etc.
Support American nationalism and monopoly laws

abused by the media.



Probably less than six now

​

That doesn't explain how the US is the richest and most powerful country in the world and has been ripped off constantly by every other country in the world.

 

[Moi621]

That doesn't explain how the US is the richest and most powerful country in the world and has been ripped off constantly by every other country in the world.

It does if you think a moment
.

<psst>
Ref. Trump, first term said a nation's leader should be a nationalist.
Globalism is an excuse for uber wealthy Americans to further enrich themselves at the expense of working folks.

 

[Yes_Minister]

It does if you think a moment
.

<psst>
Ref. Trump, first term said a nation's leader should be a nationalist.
Globalism is an excuse for uber wealthy Americans to further enrich themselves at the expense of working folks.

Okay, so how is Canada, Japan, Vietnam, Australia, Europe, etc. ripping off the US and how is the US still the richest and most powerful country in the world if all these countries are ripping off the US through out several ecades?

 

[Moi621]

Okay, so how is Canada, Japan, Vietnam, Australia, Europe, etc. ripping off the US and how is the US still the richest and most powerful country in the world if all these countries are ripping off the US through out several ecades?

Think on it.
Really

 

[BrotherFease]

Okay, so how is Canada, Japan, Vietnam, Australia, Europe, etc. ripping off the US and how is the US still the richest and most powerful country in the world if all these countries are ripping off the US through out several ecades?

I definitely would like to know that answer. It's what MAGA proclaims as a justification from withdrawing from established treaties and imposing high tariffs aka violating your own agreed trade deals.

As I have pointed out in post #20, there appears to be literacy issues with MAGA and tariffs. People do not object to tariffs. They can be effectively used to protect industries and prized domestic goods and services. Joe Biden did not alter any of Trump's trade deals and even expanded on tariff polices toward Russia and China. What people object to is dishonesty. Telling people that foreign governments pay tariffs is a lie -- tariffs are an internal tax. Presenting a tariff chart with incorrect numbers is a lie. If you have to lie to people about tariffs, then you know something is wrong.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Terrible economic data out today indicating GDP contraction and weakening job growth.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/30/gdp-q1-2025-.html

 

[W_Heisenberg]

How are Trump supporters feeling about the tariffs? Is it a problem for anyone yet? Everyone still on board with them?

 

[antiquity]

The article says it should result in 14,000 new full time jobs in the US. But I'm not interested in getting into an argument, I'm just pointing out that there is some good news out there.

Of course there is good news out there...but the democrat want everyone to think the sky is falling..When was the last time MSM reported on lower gas prices, the closed border, even inflation and groceries lower in stores?

 

[antiquity]

How are Trump supporters feeling about the tariffs? Is it a problem for anyone yet? Everyone still on board with them?

The tariffs haven't effected me one bit...to listen to democrats you would think AOC prediction that the world was going to end in 12 years..that was in 2018 so It seem we only have six years to go so why worry about tariffs.

Ocasio-Cortez Calls Climate Change 'Our World War II'

The freshman congresswoman urged Americans to address global warming immediately to avoid the end of human existence, calling climate change "our World War II."

www.newsweek.com

 

[Revelation]

How are Trump supporters feeling about the tariffs? Is it a problem for anyone yet? Everyone still on board with them?

it's great for us who understand the End Times. so much winning....

have you invested in things that go up in Hard Times, or do you leave that to your 'experts' who are losing money hand over fist?

i have been Warning about Dark Maga and the Perilous times coming to us at the End of the Age; but i am always wrong as most think.

so keep up with yur 'hopeum' and see what the next moves the Oligarchs will bring. do you feel the Noose tightening, or is it tooooo early to say?

oh yeah, they built the B-61 nuuuks 7 months ahead of schedule, probably for no reason cause everything is so Fine.


blessings.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

The tariffs haven't effected me one bit...to listen to democrats you would think AOC prediction that the world was going to end in 12 years..that was in 2018 so It seem we only have six years to go so why worry about tariffs.

Ocasio-Cortez Calls Climate Change 'Our World War II'

The freshman congresswoman urged Americans to address global warming immediately to avoid the end of human existence, calling climate change "our World War II."

www.newsweek.com

Our of curiosity what do you do? Are you working? Which industry? Retired? I don't need specific details, just broad description.

 

[Moi621]

How are Trump supporters feeling about the tariffs? Is it a problem for anyone yet? Everyone still on board with them?

I am in favor of reciprocal tariffs.
Free Trade needs to be a 2 way street.

Globalist too readily surrender our wealth.
Remember, we live in the Biden / Harris economy at least until 1 / 1 / 26
Remember food inflation hit us under Biden / Harris


I would also support anti monopoly laws prosecution on "The Media"


Probably more like 4 today.
All pimping the same "news" and "opinions"

 

[Callen]

I am in favor of reciprocal tariffs

Can you describe what a reciprocal tariff is.....no fair googling

 

[madman]

Simple question.

Stock futures down again.

No big deals in site.

Trump does not seem to be backing down from tariffs.

Bond yields rising.

Dollar falling.

the cult is strong with this one ---------------> I will support Trump no matter how bad things get.

lol at the idiots!

 

[Hamish Howl]

It's termed, "Globalism"

Trump said in his first term
a nation's leaders should be nationalist.

I agree.​

?

 

[Moi621]

Can you describe what a reciprocal tariff is.....no fair googling

Example

If They Tariff American goods,
America tariffs theirs, the same.

 

[Callen]

Substance over style. Also its like dealing with a moody teenager with pimples when you deal with Trump. So you wait out the tantrums.

Example

If They Tariff American goods,
America tariffs theirs, the same.

OK then why is Trump placing tariffs of 10 % on all countries regardless if they have rariffs on American goods or not? Why is he placing 25% tariffs on aluminum and steel from Canada when we have no tariffs like that on goods imported into Canada?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

I am in favor of reciprocal tariffs.
Free Trade needs to be a 2 way street.

I guess I have to add more detail. I don't disagree with what you're saying. I think trade should be fair. And by the way it already was with most countries.

What doesn't make any sense to me is the way Trump is doing it. How you okay with how he's doing it? Does it not seem incompetently managed to you?

 

[Mika-El]

OK then why is Trump placing tariffs of 10 % on all countries regardless if they have rariffs on American goods or not? Why is he placing 25% tariffs on aluminum and steel from Canada when we have no tariffs like that on goods imported into Canada?

During Trump's first term he put tariffs on steel and aluminum, claiming this would make the U.S. more self-sufficient in these two metals however in 2024, the output of the U.S. steel industry was 1% lower than it had been in 2017, before the first round of Trump tariffs,a nd the aluminum industry produced almost 10% less.

What Trump will not acknowledge is that labour and energy costs in the US have anmd continue to cause long-term decline of these industries and tariffs can not undo those rising labour and energy costs. Canada has been supplying better steel and aluminum at cheaper pricesto the US because its plants often draw on cheap hydropower.

So rather than understand that-Trump tries to punish Canada and American consumers. The fact is the US can not as Trump has lied expand its steel and aluminium industries because the labour and energy costs associated with expanding them just do not make it profitable.

At this point all putting tariffs on Canadian aluminum and steel does it causes inflation that ends up hurting consumers and those industries paying higher costs because of the tariffs to subsidize US steel and aluminum.

Here we have the US claiming to be free enterprise, and it uses tariffs as a full admission its socialist and uses government intervention to subsidize outmoded American industries it needs to move away from not protect.

Canadian aluminum and steel could make the US more profit by refining it then preventing the US from obtaining it to start with.

At this point Trump and the assortment of usual dumb asses try bluff there way through this issue but eventually as they did before have to remove the tariffs as Trump did last time for the same reason, the US can not produce sufficient steel and aluminum on its own. Pretending this is not the case is what Trump does as a negotiation strategy but the problem is he has used this bluff so often its no longer working. People with the natural resources the US needs are just sitting back now knowing Trump cornered himself and now needs to safe face.

 

[P_T]

Months previous to and after Jan 6th, enough. Jail the Guy.

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Wait Judges have private credit cards now.

Wait I have a meeting and tell you MAGA dumb arss guys out front to go tare
down the place and hang Pense. U, No I didn't Mean that! Just storm in drive
all out into the basement tunnels and leave the building for a week or so.


ahh hahaha I was just bla, bla, bla!

 

[Felis Leo]

Don't know what the answer to that will be, but here's a bit of recent good news on the subject: Hyundai recently announced a $21 billion investment to increase production in the US. As have some of the companies they are working with, such as NVIDIA, who are investing "hundreds of bilions" into the US.

https://www.hyundainews.com/en-us/releases/4404

That was announced in March 24, 2025. Trump slapped South Korea with tariffs after April 2, 2025. Because unless I have proof of ongoing spending by these foreign companies, I doubt this investment “announcement” will go anywhere.

 

[SMTA]

Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump?​

A better question: How bad does the fear and panic of the futures market gamblers have to get before people with money to invest stop supporting those gamblers?

Yet another blind ****ing stupid Trump ass kissing post. Hilarious.

 

[Mycroft]

Yet another blind ****ing stupid Trump ass kissing post. Hilarious.

yawn...

Don't hold back. Tell me how you REALLY feel.