Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump?

[madman]

OK then why is Trump placing tariffs of 10 % on all countries regardless if they have rariffs on American goods or not? Why is he placing 25% tariffs on aluminum and steel from Canada when we have no tariffs like that on goods imported into Canada?

***ughhhhhhhh, I dont know. I just follow what Im told******

right, @Moi621 ?

 

[pedex]

Give us a hint: What does "stop supporting Trump" actually mean? And, moreover, what difference would it make if you actually explained what you mean by those three words.?
How do Americans who voted for Trump now "stop supporting" him just 100 days into his presidency?

That's a refreshing and interesting point. What does "supporting" anyone elected mean or entail. I doubt most do much more than just vote. After that nothing.

 

[jaypatriot]

That's a refreshing and interesting point. What does "supporting" anyone elected mean or entail. I doubt most do much more than just vote. After that nothing.

My degree of 'supporting' means I do not want him to fail.
That doesn't mean I am not concerned with how Trump is going about conducting a trade war or dealing with certain world leaders.
To me, he is still an a**hole with some of his daily pronouncements. And, I still cannot listen to him when he is in one of his rally, campaign modes.

 

[german hick]

Good job Heisenberg. We could start many threads of discussion based on all the suggestions you have to "stop supporting" Trump.
You've reinforced my decision to NOT donate to anything having to do with Trump. See? I'm already following your advice.
But joining anti-Trump protests could make me look like a whining Democrat wandering around looking for a cause the party needs to survive.

It´s important for you how you look like? Is politics some kind of image stage for you? - for me everybody can think I am a complete fool, if politics get´s humane again I would not bother

 

[jaypatriot]

It´s important for you how you look like? Is politics some kind of image stage for you? - for me everybody can think I am a complete fool, if politics get´s humane again I would not bother

To my distant Anglo-Saxon cousin,
The word politics comes from the governance of a country or people. Therefore, it is already, by nature, humane.
Politics is about people.
And, to be sure, I don't wish to look like an American tourist in Germany. In Poland, I wish to praise every Pole I meet for standing up to the Russians and helping millions of Ukrainians settle in their country during this three-year-old war.



politic(adj.)
early 15c., politike, "pertaining to public affairs, concerning the governance of a country or people," from Old French politique "political" (14c.) and directly from Latin politicus "of citizens or the state, civil, civic," from Greek politikos "of citizens, pertaining to the state and its administration; pertaining to public life," from polites "citizen," from polis "city" (see polis).

 

[W_Heisenberg]

The trade deal with UK isn't actually a deal, and tariffs will still be stuck at 10% for most things despite the U.S. having a trade surplus with the UK.

So far more than a month after "liberation" day we appear not to have any deals, we are stuck with huge tariffs, we are experiencing negative GDP growth, far fewer ships are arriving in our ports.

This is going to be an economic disaster and everyone around Trump is just letting it happen.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Clowns on the left stuck with Biden until the man literally could not walk, talk, think, find his way off a stage,without help. He fell asleep during meetings, he snuck out of meeting to go nap by the pool, he didn't know where he was, who he was, who the people around him were. He facilitated the illegal entry of millions of people into the U.S. in total disregard to immigration law. He spent billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars on something that all polling says the American people were against. Many of these illegal immigrants had criminal records, often violent, and yet he let them in. When they continued their violence upon American citizens he and his party simply turned their heads and ignored it.

Here's a partial list of some of the women, girls, men and children murdered by illegals encouraged and allowed to come into the U.S. under the democrats control in the past administration.
I guess crimes by the people democrats allowed into the country don't count, and the deaths of these people did receive much notice by the democrats who opened the door to the illegals who killed them.
The "say their name" campaign by democrats went out the window pretty damned quick.

Jocelyn Nungaray, 12​

Gloria Cascio, 53​

Ruby Garcia, 25​

Christopher Gadd, 27​

Travis Wolfe, 12​

Alex Wise Jr., 10​

Lizbeth Medina, 16​

Jeremy Poou-Caceres, 2​

Laken Riley, 22​

Melissa Powell, 47, and Riordan Powell, 16​

Aiden Clark, 11​

Rachel Morin, 37​

13 People Whose Lives Were Cut Short by Illegal Immigrants in Past Year

More American lives are being lost at the hands of illegal aliens, coinciding with an increase in the number of criminals crossing the border.

www.dailysignal.com

Attempting to hijack the thread is inappropriate.

Nobody here is discussing Biden.

 

[Rogue Valley]

To my distant Anglo-Saxon cousin, The word politics comes from the governance of a country or people. Therefore, it is already, by nature, humane.
Politics is about people.
And, to be sure, I don't wish to look like an American tourist in Germany. In Poland, I wish to praise every Pole I meet for standing up to the Russians and helping millions of Ukrainians settle in their country during this three-year-old war.

The Anglo-Saxons and Poles fought against Fascism and later, Russia's authoritarianism.

The question becomes: Why do you support fascism and authoritarianism in the United States?

Reminds me of the Brit tankie here who every year would visit a vast cemetery of his deceased Sword Beach ancestors buried at Normandy while suilmultaneously supporting Puitin's War on Ukraine.

He could never quite grasp the incongruity of it all.

 

[SMTA]

Attempting to hijack the thread is inappropriate.

Nobody here is discussing Biden.

That’s ignorant, desperate, avoidance bullshit.

 

[SMTA]

The Anglo-Saxons and Poles fought against Fascism and later, Russia's authoritarianism.

The question becomes: Why do you support fascism and authoritarianism in the United States?

Reminds me of the Brit tankie here who every year would visit a vast cemetery of his deceased Sword Beach ancestors buried at Normandy while suilmultaneously supporting Puitin's War on Ukraine.

He could never quite grasp the incongruity of it all.

Damn but you write exquisitely.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Trick question.
One does not simply leave the cult.

 

[bomberfox]

Hi W,

Sorry I did not vote. Nothing available to my liking...

Maybe you should have asked: 'How bad does your personal economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump? Small difference, but quite frankly, I do not think they give a rats ass about the economy. They only care about themselves and the America First policy is merely used as an excuse to implement an effective 'Me First' policy. So when their personal finances are being affected beyond uncomfortable, that's when you will start hearing them and they start crying.

Joey

America first is just the “me” attitude on steroids.

 

[911Sparky]

Simple question.

Stock futures down again.

No big deals in site.

Trump does not seem to be backing down from tariffs.

Bond yields rising.

Dollar falling.

Other- I have never supported trump.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

America first is just the “me” attitude on steroids.

It's a KKK slogan used by racists.

Trump's father was a KKK member. That is where he got it.

 

[bomberfox]

Again, these diehard MAGAs don’t care about the economy or anything of the sort. They are hateful individuals towards a certain group of people that Trump also hates on. So he could rape and murder their families right in front of their faces and they will still bend over for him. This whole MAGA movement is just racism and bigotry in disguise. That’s all this is. If you haven’t figured it out yet, you’re an idiot.

Yeah the whole great replacement shit is what a lot of this is about. A war to keep racial dominance that is dying out.

 

[bomberfox]

It's a KKK slogan used by racists.

Trump's father was a KKK member. That is where he got it.

Trump’s father was a redliner and a block buster.

 

[911Sparky]

liberals/progressives/democrats supported Biden even when they knew he was a demented old fool who spent most of his time on the beach while others ran the government. Funny how they claim failing support for Trump while having faithful trust in Biden.

Please allow me to note a major difference between the trump and Biden administrations. Biden may have been in the early stages of a mental health decline, yet he was surrounded by staff who were professionals in their fields and thus were able to give him advice for the good of the country. trump is
also in the early stages of mental decline, but has surrounded himself with cabinet members with no experience in their fields and even the few who are
experienced, such as Bondi, allow their sycophancy to trump to override their knowledge and experience.

 

[911Sparky]

I think the majority of Americans would be okay with some kind of sensible, competently executed trade policy that involves some tariffs to a greater or lesser degree. The problem with Trump's approach is that he abruptly launched a trade war against every country on the planet (except for Russia and Belarus). That was dumb. It will take years to make actual deals with every country, in the meantime tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of American businesses will permanently close, and millions of Americans will lose their jobs.

My belief is that trump will back down before the serious damage is done, yet even if he removes his stupid tariffs tomorrow our supply chain recovery will take months. If I'm wrong about him backing down we will be in a severe recession, if not a depression by fall, it won't matter how many dolls the
children get.

 

[Callen]

My belief is that trump will back down before the serious damage is done, yet even if he removes his stupid tariffs tomorrow our supply chain recovery will take months. If I'm wrong about him backing down we will be in a severe recession, if not a depression by fall, it won't matter how many dolls the
children get.

I heard a business channel analyst say this AM that the her belief is that 10% tariffs will be the base line that will remain for all countries. She said Trump beleives in tariffs as a revenue source regardless of the business deals negotiated. The arrangement with GB today suggests that may be true. All 10% tariffs stayed in place. Trump's concession will be not imposing the higher tariffs and dropping all 25% tariffs to 10%. If true that is a permanent tax on American consumers.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

My belief is that trump will back down before the serious damage is done, yet even if he removes his stupid tariffs tomorrow our supply chain recovery will take months. If I'm wrong about him backing down we will be in a severe recession, if not a depression by fall, it won't matter how many dolls the
children get.

I once thought this was the case, but I don't think so anymore. I don't think Trump is receiving any feedback. He is getting his balls washed by sycophants. I think his misunderstanding of the economy is so severe he's going to allow most of these tariffs in place for a very long time because he doesn't understand what's happening, and even if he did, he wouldn't care.

 

[911Sparky]

I once thought this was the case, but I don't think so anymore. I don't think Trump is receiving any feedback. He is getting his balls washed by sycophants. I think his misunderstanding of the economy is so severe he's going to allow most of these tariffs in place for a very long time because he doesn't understand what's happening, and even if he did, he wouldn't care.

I tend to think even his sycophants in Congress will start to scream, softly at first, then louder as our economy disintegrates, if only because they will see their chances of reelection going down the tubes. Remember, it's the economy stupid!

 

[antiquity]

Our of curiosity what do you do? Are you working? Which industry? Retired? I don't need specific details, just broad description.

Why...are you a former Biden government agent?

 

[antiquity]

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If you think you can influence anyone with this BS think again.

 

[Fletch]

I heard a business channel analyst say this AM that the her belief is that 10% tariffs will be the base line that will remain for all countries. She said Trump beleives in tariffs as a revenue source regardless of the business deals negotiated. The arrangement with GB today suggests that may be true. All 10% tariffs stayed in place. Trump's concession will be not imposing the higher tariffs and dropping all 25% tariffs to 10%. If true that is a permanent tax on American consumers.

I believe that is correct and I have been saying that for some time. Trump wants the revenue that a 10% tariff on all goods will provide. He needs to offset making the current tax rates that expire, permanent.

 

[Hamish Howl]

If you think you can influence anyone with this BS think again.

Moi said a nationalist leader. I posted a nationalist leader.

Would you have preferred Tojo or Pinochet?