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Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers

german hick said:
To be honest, his flipflops show me this: he is a very unexperienced apprentice with bad intention and way too big ego who is learning governing. All the things wich everybody told him woun´t work, he has to experience himself. That he doesn´t care about truth or what he told yesterday works good for him in that aspect. System try and error. If he just would be evil... but evil and incompetent?!? - good luck America, you´ll need it!
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He has no object permanence. What he wants to be true IS true as far as he is concerned, until he gets yanked up short by actual reality...Then he just pretends it never happened and moves to the next dumbass plan that won't work.
 
TypicalRussian said:
No they wouldn't be.

Americans only care about social issues, these people would never vote blue because dems are woke and gay.
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I wouldn’t be so sure. Fear of “them” isn’t going to keep companies running under Trump’s policies.

 
Individual said:
Only if they are required to identify themselves, be documented, and given an ID allowing them to work legally as temporary residents who must maintain contact with immigration periodically to remain legal.
Thereby if stopped by ICE all they would need do is produce their ID, which if is found valid they are free to go. Perhaps after a 10 year lapse they would become entitled to become naturalized.
Perhaps an alien ID smart card would provide a quick and easy solution.
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Ask your Hispanic fiends about being stopped for DWM - Driving while Mexican. Unfortunately that is a common experience from what my American Hispanic friends tell me. And, it has been going on for years.

It is a rotten thing to think but I suspect that the same attitude will happen to non-citizens return to work in the U.S. with a ICE approved ID. Can you imagine the constant hassle of being fecked with because of your skin color and/or your last name? It would not be surprising if a large number of Hispanic people say, "To hell with it, it's not worth the trouble and there are no guarantees with this administration. They cannot be trusted. With Trump things could change again at any moment. His word means nothing."
 
Hamish Howl said:
He has no object permanence. What he wants to be true IS true as far as he is concerned, until he gets yanked up short by actual reality...Then he just pretends it never happened and moves to the next dumbass plan that won't work.
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There is an undeniable pattern that is repeated again and again and cannot be ignored. Donald Trump is impetuous. Donald Trump often does not learn from his mistakes. Donald Trump does not do his homework. Donald Trump is a horrendous judge of character. Donald Trump is known for not keeping his word. Donald Trump cannot be trusted.

Those are facts. The pattern is clear. His indecision, lack of knowledge, refusal to learn and pay attention to details have cost people their lives and have cost the nation billions of dollars, so far.

We know all this. We've seen all this. We are living all this. Fewer and fewer Americans trust Donald Trump. Certainly our allies and nations across the globe know it as well.
 
TypicalRussian said:
That employer deserves to be jailed for hiring an insane amount of NON-AMERICANS

No sympathy
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No question, but these ‘non-Americans’ have been in this hemisphere far, far longer than Trump and actually fight for the 🇺🇸
 
Lursa said:
It's been tried. Americans dont take the agricultural jobs no matter what the pay (within reason.)

Too bad you're not up to speed on this stuff, I guess it's too 'nuanced'.
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Agricultural jobs are seasonal pay poorly and are exceedingly hard. What's not to love for kids raised to play video games?

It's very odd that average Americans are irritated by someone wanting the work.
 
Hamish Howl said:
He has no object permanence. What he wants to be true IS true as far as he is concerned, until he gets yanked up short by actual reality...Then he just pretends it never happened and moves to the next dumbass plan that won't work.
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Or just pretends great success like how my eggs came down in price by 400%.
 
Ishm said:
Just imagine if Trump had instructed ICE to do what he told the public they were going to do i.e. go after the rapists, murderers and violent criminals. But of course Trump lied again and thought he could get more personal glory from telling ICE to go after maximum numbers instead, so Trump could brag about it. Then under pressure to reach Trumps numbers, and knowing they can't reach them if only targeting the nasty criminals, ICE of course go after the low hanging fruit such as farm workers and other workers who are easy to find. So now Trump makes a new Taco to appease all the businesses that are suffering. Yet the suffering was 100% predictable and known to be a real issue. But Trump is so damn dumb and self absorbed that he couldn't even see that coming. So, like so many other Trump things, we get a economically damaging Taco instead of a well thought out plan.
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This is easy to understand, if you recognize that , in addition to being amoral, Trump has the attention span of a Gnat.
 
Individual said:
Only if they are required to identify themselves, be documented, and given an ID allowing them to work legally as temporary residents who must maintain contact with immigration periodically to remain legal.
Thereby if stopped by ICE all they would need do is produce their ID, which if is found valid they are free to go. Perhaps after a 10 year lapse they would become entitled to become naturalized.
Perhaps an alien ID smart card would provide a quick and easy solution.
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Too sensible. It would never fly with either Trump's Peckerwood base, nor with Union bosses.
 
anatta said:
Nuanced policy due to supply of critical labor, (farm workers are critical, if underpaid) I especially like seeing Trump amend his
previous policy to protect farm workers
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Yeah, this is the only industry migrant workers need protection. You go with that stupidity.
 
anatta said:
Nuanced policy due to supply of critical labor, (farm workers are critical, if underpaid) I especially like seeing Trump amend his
previous policy to protect farm workers
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Hey, that's the problem undocumented immigrants sides' argument.

Welcome, comrade!
 
anatta said:

Trump promises immigration order soon on farm and leisure workers​

Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers and many dairy and meatpacking workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture.
U.S. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins told CNBC that Trump was reviewing all possible steps but that Congress would have to act.
Zippy Duvall, president of the American Farm Bureau Federation, a leading farm lobby, said on Thursday that farm workers were key to the nation's food supply.
"If these workers are not present in fields and barns, there is a risk of supply-chain disruptions similar to those experienced during the pandemic," Duvall said in a statement.
The COVID-19 pandemic resulted in labor shortages and supply-chain snarls, with meat plants
forced to idle and dairy farms, to dump milk, and consumers encountering emptier shelves at grocery stores.
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It's a little difficult to believe that this is just now dawning on these people.
 
TypicalRussian said:
That employer deserves to be jailed for hiring an insane amount of NON-AMERICANS

No sympathy
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As an Employer your focus is in hiring people willing, and able to do the work you need done. These fellows all had documentation showing they were here legally. They were not the Drug Dealers or Rapists that Trump said he would get. They were not eating Cats and Dogs for fun.

I know it’s complicated for you. But if you aren’t breaking the law you should not be picked up by the cops. I’m surprised they didn’t cover that in Civics classes.
 
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