Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers

[anatta]

He just now got it when months ago everyone said this is exactly what would happen. No more stable genius' for president please.

nothing is "happening" field work is unaffected. He was talking about what he heard from farmers, who dont want this

 

[anatta]

Yes, chasing farmworkers through the fields lacks nuance.

 

[anatta]

Trump should have thought about the workforce for farmers and hotels when he came out with his EO.

The work that "illegals" do in agriculture, hotels, etc. has been known for decades.

Congress needs to reform H-2A. But i havent heard of enforcement in agri or hotels. H2-A reform is needed in hospitality as well

 

[TangoNoCash]

nothing is "happening" field work is unaffected. He was talking about what he heard from farmers, who dont want this

And hotels and home builders and home owners...All easily predicted. Presidents should be forward thinkers. This one brags about acing a cognitive test. Can we get some independent third party verification on that?

 

[George50]

Bottom line is that Trump always wants to do what is best for him. If you can understand that then you have the key to understanding his actions.

Rural voters are his bread and butter so he wants to protect the farm owners. Even though he won’t be up for reelection again he’s still worried about polls because he’s afraid the midterms may take some power from him. As far as the hospitality sector goes, he wants to protect it because that serves his personal business interests.

On the attack side he wants to attack democratic areas because his base loves it. Attacking democratic areas with predominantly brown people is even better!

Illegal immigrants do not matter at all to him either way, it’s all about how he can use them as pawns to get what he wants. That applies to both politically or as cheap labor in his businesses.

 

[mike2810]

Congress needs to reform H-2A. But i havent heard of enforcement in agri or hotels. H2-A reform is needed in hospitality as well

Agree. Congress for decades has ignored immigration and migrant worker programs.

 

[What if...?]

TACO is Taco'ing again!!!

\And now he's back tracking AGAIN!

So now he's not going after farm workers??? What's the matter, Taco?

Trump says changes are coming to ICE raid policy: 'We must protect our farmers'

President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social on Thursday.

abc7.com

FRESNO, Calif. -- President Donald Trump is reversing course on his immigration raid policy when it comes to farm workers, he announced on Truth Social.

"Our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long-time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace," Trump wrote. "...We must protect our farmers, but get criminals out of the U.S.A. Changes are coming!"

According to the U.S. Agriculture Department, 42% of crop farmworkers from 2020 to 2022 lacked legal status.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said the change is happening because Californians spoke up. "Keep it going. Keep it peaceful. It's working," he wrote on X.

In a post on social media, Newsom shared a story about a 12-year-old boy he met in Oxnard, California whose parents had been taken by agents. They had been working the fields for over 20 years.

"Donald Trump may not care about him, but he's finally listening to you calling out these indiscriminate acts of cruelty," Newsom said. "Let's keep up the pressure, and let's do it peacefully."

God damn, it’s good to be right all the time.

I have been calling out the blind eye in regards to employers by republicans for decades. That they have always know where the majority of the undocumented are employed yet have done nothing about them.

And now we have confirmation of my point in an official announcement by the deported in chief.

Any of you ICE apologists buying the point trump made about farm and hospitality workers while continuing to ignore the same point being made by the subjects of the recent raids?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Michael Cole]

That lacks nuance. We need more nuance.

 

[TangoNoCash]

God damn, it’s good to be right all the time.

I have been calling out the blind eye in regards to employers by republicans for decades. That they have always know where the majority of the undocumented are employed yet have done nothing about them.

And now we have confirmation of my point in an official announcement by the deported in chief.

Any of you ICE apologists buying the point trump made about farm and hospitality workers while continuing to ignore the same point being made by the subjects of the recent raids?

Inquiring minds want to know.

The same people they are arresting are probably cleaning their rooms.

 

[What if...?]

Only if they are required to identify themselves, be documented, and given an ID allowing them to work legally as temporary residents who must maintain contact with immigration periodically to remain legal.
Thereby if stopped by ICE all they would need do is produce their ID, which if is found valid they are free to go. Perhaps after a 10 year lapse they would become entitled to become naturalized.
Perhaps an alien ID smart card would provide a quick and easy solution.

Whoa!

When did you become a liberal?

 

[radioman]

What will he say if (when?) some of those ‘good people’ are convicted of ‘serious’ crimes?

I'm fairly certain he will blame Biden.....or Obama.....or Hillary....or China....you get the picture.

 

[anatta]

That lacks nuance. We need more nuance.

I was at a Deep Purple concert and the crowd yelled "turn up the bass" Ian Gillian only heard "turn it up" and blew everyone out of their seats
He lacked nuance

 

[Nickyjo]

Amnesty (via ‘prosecutorial discretion’) is far less expensive and requires no congressional action.

So one waits til after the crops are in to deport farm workers? Sorry for the sarcasm, but I repeat that the GOP seems to want it both ways: maintain the cheap labor of illegals yet be able to bash them politically.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

correct. no changes to enforcement.. Trump was thinking out loud. at least there is a recognition critical food supply labor can't be replaced with Americans

But it took someone else to point this out to Trump, someone who was desperate. Further, he is paying lip service. No one in the administration has any idea what he is talking about.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Trump doesn't make policy. Steven Miller writes the policies and the EOs. They then put the EOs in front of him to sign. Trump sometimes asks, 'what am I signing?'

And they say Trump isn't interested in learning! This proves them wrong.

 

[ttwtt78640]

So one waits til after the crops are in to deport farm workers? Sorry for the sarcasm, but I repeat that the GOP seems to want it both ways: maintain the cheap labor of illegals yet be able to bash them politically.

Apparently “some of them are good people”, thus it’s OK to apply federal immigration law selectively - as long as (King?) Trump controls (defines?) the selection criteria.

Of course, that was also the Biden immigration law enforcement plan, but Biden used different selection criteria.

 

[Michael Cole]

I was at a Deep Purple concert and the crowd yelled "turn up the bass" Ian Gillian only heard "turn it up" and blew everyone out of their seats
He lacked nuance

Cool. Using Trump and nuance in the same argument is fascinating.

 

[MTAtech]

Yes, chasing farmworkers through the fields lacks nuance.

“Let me take you down cause I’m going soon…” Strawberry Fields

 

[Lursa]

That lacks nuance. We need more nuance.

$2 MAGA word of the day.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

So when do we start draconian enforcement of speed limits?

Hey! Don't give them any ideas!

Believe it or not, I once recieved a speeding citation for 16mph in a 15mph zone (not a school zone). The judge tossed it because the cop indicated on the ticket he eyeballed me (didn't use radar). Said he didn't believe anyone could eyeball 1mph in the middle of the night. My lucky day.

I was very lucky, because I doubt I could have passed a roadside sobriety test at the time. I was lucky because the cop was so focused on writing the speeding ticket he failed to assess my DUI status twenty minutes after all the local bars had closed.

BTW, that was the last time I ever put myself in that situation. That was 45 years ago.

 

[anatta]

Trump promises immigration order soon on farm and leisure workers​

Trump promises immigration order soon on farm and leisure workers

U.S. President Donald Trump said he would issue an order soon to address the effects of his immigration crackdown on the country's farm and hotel industries, which rely heavily on migrant labor.

www.reuters.com

Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers and many dairy and meatpacking workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture.
U.S. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins told CNBC that Trump was reviewing all possible steps but that Congress would have to act.
Zippy Duvall, president of the American Farm Bureau Federation, a leading farm lobby, said on Thursday that farm workers were key to the nation's food supply.
"If these workers are not present in fields and barns, there is a risk of supply-chain disruptions similar to those experienced during the pandemic," Duvall said in a statement.
The COVID-19 pandemic resulted in labor shortages and supply-chain snarls, with meat plants
forced to idle and dairy farms, to dump milk, and consumers encountering emptier shelves at grocery stores.

 

[ClaraD]

Stick to the plan (campaing promise?) of “mass deportation” of all illegal aliens, which is all the executive (alone) can (presently) do.

IMHO, congress should pass an eVerify mandate, coupled with changes to the FIT code, allowing the IRS to act as the primary enforcement mechanism. Once the (W-2 and 1099) US employment ‘magnet’ is removed then many (if not most) ‘undocumented’ immigrants will elect to self-deport.

It appears that e-verify isn’t working properly per what ICE said during a recent raid

 

[What if...?]

It appears that e-verify isn’t working properly per what ICE said during a recent raid

They say lots of things. The crackhead homeless folk downtown say things all the time. Neither are particularly coherent things.

 

[TangoNoCash]

It appears that e-verify isn’t working properly per what ICE said during a recent raid

Hey there's some good Doge could actually do.

 

[ClaraD]

Hey there's some good Doge could actually do.

They probably are the ones who broke it