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Trump Launches War On Iran

Plasmaball said:
Then why are you here Anthony? Seriously why are you even in this thread of you cant even be bothered to understand anything about the topic.

You dont even know what she said but you know lefties?

Lololololololololololololololol

Ok
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Cheerleaders should at least bring pompoms.
:)
 
Chomsky said:
Did you ever hear the quote from John Glenn. When asked what his thoughts were, sitting on the launching pad, waiting for lift-off?
He replied:
"I'm sitting on half-million pounds of rocket fuel, with the explosive force of a one-ton nuclear bomb. It has three-hundred working thousand parts that all have to work perfectly, and each part was sent out to the lowest bidder!"
Well, that's how I feel about the Trump Administration. The thought of Hegseth running all this blows my mind.
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lol


Boost your confidence by remembering that Trump decided to switch from the most secure IT infrastructure on the plane to use use fee Wi-Fi from Starlink.
wcgw?

It's not like the best an brightest minds of our enemies are trying to get info out of DC computers.


You can also boost your confidence by remembering Trump only hires the best people

people.com

Hackers Easily Guessed Paul Manafort's Cringeworthy Password and Found Daughter's Shocking Texts

Computer security researchers easily hacked Paul Manafort's James Bond-inspired email password: "bond007"
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Manafort’s alleged crimes have piqued the interest of almost everyone — except apparently Fox News — but especially computer security researchers who worked to uncover Manafort’s James Bond-inspired email password: “bond007.”​



Rest assured that Trumpco personnel continue to take OPSec seriously and have ALWAYS taken OpSec seriously

The Justice Department on Friday unveiled criminal charges against three Iranian hackers employed by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corp. for targeting and compromising the electronic accounts of Trump campaign aides and others.​
 
Napoleon said:
So, there are a couple of choices to go about acquiring the material for a nuclear weapon. Option A is a uranium bomb. It’s an easier, more efficient, process but an obvious one and very difficult to miniaturize a weapon with. The later is not desirable in modern warfare because it amounts to a giant clunky bomb you need a specialized aircraft to deliver. But, for that, all you have to do is continuously enrich uranium until you get weapons-grade material.

Would we detect the radiation of that material in this attack if it was produced or kept at Fordow? No. As mentioned, Fordow is a subterranean facility deep below a mountain and shielded by its solid granite core and layers of igneous rock. There’s no chance a conventional kinetic bomb like a MOP could penetrate that deep into the mountain or cause sufficient damage to the facility to eject radioactive material. But I don’t think Iran is doing that anyway.

Option B is a plutonium bomb. It’s more difficult and time consuming to produce, but it is easier to hide and miniaturize for all of the ballistic missiles Iran has designed and produced for the purpose of carrying a nuclear warhead. It also makes sense as Iran’s nuclear weapons program is modeled after and aided by North Korea and their first test detonation was a plutonium bomb. To make one of these, you enrich uranium to reactor grade (which we know Fordow and the other facilities are doing and looks innocent enough on the surface) and harvest the plutonium byproduct from the reactor.

But here’s the rub: plutonium bombs iz hard because not just any plutonium will do. One of the things you get when you put enriched uranium in a reactor is Plutonium-239. That is good. That’s what you want. But after awhile, it starts creating Plutonium-240 and 241. Those are bad. They are highly unstable and if you build a bomb with those it could spontaneously detonate at any moment. Problem is, there’s no rule that says when that happens. It depends on the fuel and the reactor.

The relevance of Israel’s assassination of Iran’s nuclear scientists is not that they’re nuclear scientists. It’s that those individuals know things. Any fool with a physics degree can make a uranium bomb, but it requires time sensitive processes and a great deal of specialized expertise and precision to make a plutonium bomb. You need standardization, you have to know the enrichment process end to end, and you have to know every beep, boop, and quirk of the reactor you’re putting it in. Or else you’ll blow yourself to the moon.
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Do we want to know what you do for a living? 😬🤨
 
What if...? said:
Our coup started all of this. Because those damned Iranians decided it was their oil under their ground. Not Britain’s.
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What if...? said:
We put their autocrat back in power twice.
And then we got the Mullahs.
Cause and effect.
Another mess WE MADE.
All we had to do is watch them and wait for a handful more years for enough of the old bastards to die off.
trump just empowered the mullahs. Again.
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So, your approach would be what? Let them build nukes, and don't do anything until after they used them to kill millions of "infidels", which they've already said they will do?
 
 
Cordelier said:
The French were all for it.

It was Eisenhower and Churchill who didn't think it was a wise move.
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Interesting. I was aware of Operation Vulture but not discussion of using three atom bombs to relieve the French surrounded at Dien Bien Phu.

But I read your Wikipedia reference a little differently. Eisenhower did not want American pilots to drop the bombs. Churchill wanted nothing to do with the intervention requested by Eisenhower. Basically, without Britain and Congressional consent Eisenhower would not sign off on Operation Vulture.

An article published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, discusses both Operation Vulture planning and Dulles offer to Bidault. The Americans were gung ho. The French not so much.

According to Bidault, the American took him aside during an intermission and asked him whether atomic bombs could be effective at Dien Bien Phu. If so, Dulles allegedly went on, his government could provide two such bombs to France. Bidault said he turned down the suggestion flat, on the grounds that the bombs would destroy the garrison as well as the Viet Minh, while dropping them farther away, on supply lines, would risk war with China. When informed a few months later of Bidault’s claim, Dulles said he could not recall making such an offer and insisted there must have been a misunderstanding.

Bidault’s version is supported by senior French official Jean Chauvel in his memoirs, and by French general Paul Ely in his diary, which was kept on a daily basis. Ely, a key player on Indochina strategy in these months, wrote that he was of two minds about “the offer of two atom bombs. The psychological impact would be tremendous, but the [military] effectiveness would was uncertain, and it carries the risk of generalized warfare.” -- “We might give them a few.” Did the US offer to drop atom bombs at Dien Bien Phu? Fredrik Logevall, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, February 21, 2016

What's the truth? As with most controversies probably somewhere between. Good article. Read it if you have the chance.
 
cpwill said:
1. Trump is absolutely a moron.
2. However, it is not wrong that the (public, at least) purpose of this bombing was to KEEP Iran from getting to "nuke", not (again, so far as we are publicly aware) degrade extant nuke weapons.
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They're saying this was the plan and that the whole "decide in 2 weeks" press release was camouflage, to surprise Iran.

So...TACO was lying or was TACO was using strategy, hiding his true intentions in order to better position our outcome? ;)
 
Toggle Almendro said:
The above-quoted posts are all factually incorrect. The 1953 coup in Iran was organized and carried out by the same Ayatollahs who rule Iran today. Foreign backing for the coup was not a significant factor.

And even among the foreign backers the US only played a minor part. The primary foreign backers of the coup were the British, who were justifiably aggrieved over Iran's theft of British oil.

And the US put lots of pressure on the Shah of Iran to not oppress the Iranian people. We were hardly to blame when he defied us.

So Iran has never had any legitimate grievance against the United States. All the atrocities that the post-1979 Iranian government has committed, were committed solely because that Iranian government is evil.
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The US trained the Shah’s secret police. If we didn’t want the Shah to brutally oppress his people, why did we train the secret police doing that oppression?
 
ElChupacabra said:
Actually it's the US intelligence findings on Iran's development of a nuclear weapon tangent which has nothing to do with The Left™ because Gabbard was his appointment. So perhaps it's best you clean up after yourself and take your own garbage an put it in its proper place since you've come to this discussion woefully underprepared if you didn't even know what the intelligence community reported on.
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Is it President Gabbard? Nope.

Of course, if she'd been the lone voice in favor of the attack, that's what you'd be calling Trump.
Is that the official standing of the United States, that Iran is not working towards a nuclear weapon? Again, nope.

You foolishly want to pick out minority opinions and isolated information in your quest to mislead and misinform, right out of the leftist playbook.
I told you, I know your tactics better than you do.
 
CaughtInThe said:
Why would you believe Trump? He has to be up to ~ a million lies (lifetime) by now.
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I haven’t said I believed Trump about anything. Lol…What the hell are you even talking about?!

If I endorsed something Trump claimed or stated that I believed something Trump said, you’re free to quote it, but you won’t be able to because such a post doesn’t exist. 😆
 
W_Heisenberg said:
If they don’t then they’re not fulfilling their oaths. And if you don’t pressure your representative then you’re not fulfilling your obligation as a citizen.
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I think with everything thing that's wrong with Trump and disagree with Trump...I think this is a good call on his part.
 

“A day after President Trump declared that Iran’s nuclear program had been “completely and totally obliterated” by American bunker-busting bombs and a barrage of missiles, the actual state of the program seemed far more murky, with senior officials conceding they did not know the fate of Iran’s stockpile of near-bomb-grade uranium.

“We are going to work in the coming weeks to ensure that we do something with that fuel and that’s one of the things that we’re going to have conversations with the Iranians about,” Vice President JD Vance told ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday, referring to a batch of uranium sufficient to make nine or 10 atomic weapons. Nonetheless, he contended that the country’s potential to weaponize that fuel had been set back substantially because it no longer had the equipment to turn that fuel into operative weapons.“

It’s going to be hilarious when we find out they failed even by their own made up objectives.
 
The Brad Dad said:

“A day after President Trump declared that Iran’s nuclear program had been “completely and totally obliterated” by American bunker-busting bombs and a barrage of missiles, the actual state of the program seemed far more murky, with senior officials conceding they did not know the fate of Iran’s stockpile of near-bomb-grade uranium.

“We are going to work in the coming weeks to ensure that we do something with that fuel and that’s one of the things that we’re going to have conversations with the Iranians about,” Vice President JD Vance told ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday, referring to a batch of uranium sufficient to make nine or 10 atomic weapons. Nonetheless, he contended that the country’s potential to weaponize that fuel had been set back substantially because it no longer had the equipment to turn that fuel into operative weapons.“

It’s going to be hilarious when we find out they failed even by their own made up objectives.
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Funny how many people routing against their home countries success and security. Tribalism must be very strong for a lot of people.
 
L88 said:
Yeah sure, can you show your posts against Biden's Somalia invasion and authorize use of lethal force?
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Simon W. Moon said:
lol
If I could not show you something like that, would it mean that the hypothetical world of your imagination was real?
If I did show you something like that, would it cause you to change you thinking?
Or are we just talking about me to pass the time?
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Did you ever figure out if you actually wanted to see my posts or not?
 
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