Trump Launches War On Iran

[Hamish Howl]

Israel isn't stopping. Iran has an open ended commitment to retaliate. Trump said Iran gotta sue for peace or more U.S. targeting.
See how long Israel continues and if there anymore US bombing -because Iran will never "come to the table"

Still there is nothing new here in terms of US base exposure, and Israel has been on a tear after Oct 7. It's a long war

Apparently they moved the Uranium a week ago, and nobody thought all those trucks at Fordnow were in any way significant.

This is Keystone Kops level shit.

 

[Hamish Howl]

So, expand the war? That's your solution?

Once you hit someone and they don't take a dive, your options are limited.

 

[jaypatriot]

Like thinking Iran might somehow cobble together a couple of nukes and then launch them straight at the U.S.?

That kind of doom and gloom and thinking the worst will happen?

How about Iran finding an asteroid in space and then forcing it to come down on Washington D.C. on your favorite Pennsylvania Ave address?
Is that scary enough for you Chicken Little?

 

[Hamish Howl]

First time I saw this question.

Iran should have been dealt with harshly decades ago.

Yeah, no argument there.

Obama should have never made a deal with the Iranian regime.

It worked for a while.

That was one of the biggest mistakes in this story.

No, the biggest mistake was cancelling the deal with no plan to replace its function.

You can’t bargain with extremists of any kind.

Yes, that's why I don't bargain with MAGAs.

 

[jaypatriot]

Apparently they moved the Uranium a week ago, and nobody thought all those trucks at Fordnow were in any way significant.

This is Keystone Kops level shit.

How is that apparent to the average news reader?
Can you give us the source of that unproven news item?

 

[Crunchtime]

No, children are born innocent. They were both his children and as a result his descendants

Children are not born innocent. They are conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity. You don’t need to teach a child to lie, steal, be selfish, or be violent. Every human is born with a nature that is sinful. That’s why Jesus Christ came. To save the world from sin.

Ismael was born by an Egyptian woman named Hagar. Isaac was born from Abraham and Sarah. He was the child of promise. Ismael was the child born out of disobedience. You need to read the Bible. You’re wrong.

 

[ClaraD]

Children are not born innocent. They are conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity. You don’t need to teach a child to lie, steal, be selfish, or be violent. Every human is born with a nature that is sinful. That’s why Jesus Christ came. To save the world from sin.

Ismael was born by an Egyptian woman named Hagar. Isaac was born from Abraham and Sarah. He was the child of promise. Ismael was the child born out of disobedience. You need to read the Bible. You’re wrong.

All children are born innocent. They aren’t responsible for their parents. Also, sexual relationships and reproduction is not a sin, it is a literal commandment of God. The bible nowhere says this so stop twisting the Bible

 

[Hamish Howl]

How is that apparent to the average news reader?
Can you give us the source of that unproven news item?

Yes, yes I can. I have access to this wonderful new thing called the internet. First hit of 350:

Images show "unusual" activity at Iran nuclear site before strikes

"Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated," President Donald Trump said on Saturday.

www.newsweek.com

Satellite imagery captured ahead of U.S. strikes on three major Iranian nuclear sites showed "unusual" movement around the entrance to Iran's Fordow enrichment facility.

Pictures taken on Thursday and Friday showed "unusual truck and vehicular activity" close to the entrance of the underground Fordow complex south of Tehran, satellite imagery firm Maxar said late on Saturday.

A total of 16 cargo trucks were spotted on the access road leading up to the Fordow tunnel entrance on Thursday, but most had moved to a spot 1 kilometer (0.6 miles) northwest of the access road by the following day, Maxar said.

New trucks and multiple bulldozers had appeared close to the main entrance by Friday, with one truck very close to the main tunnel entrance, the satellite imagery provider said.

The significance of the activity is not yet clear, but Iranian state media reported key nuclear sites had been evacuated ahead of U.S. attacks, with enriched uranium moved "to a safe location."

It wasn't apparent to the average news reader last week. It was apparent to anyone with access to and bothering to read intel reports. It's almost like we have all those satellites for a reason.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Children are not born innocent. They are conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity.

This is one seriously ****ed up view of the world.

 

[ClaraD]

This is one seriously ****ed up view of the world.

Then to think he thinks the Bible actually states this. Nowhere does the Bible say that. In fact

whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me".

Those were Jesus’ words

 

[ElChupacabra]

Yeah - we did it by using a cyberattack to cause the facility to partially self destruct. It was called "stuxnet", and US and Israeli authorship remained technically a secret until Obama wanted an edge in 2012, and leaked it.

Ah right, I remember that one well. I was referring to a bombing strike like what was just conducted.

You don't gotta drop an aerial bomb to attack a country, any more than you gotta invade it with infantry.

That's true but physical attacks carry a different weight than the cyber variety since the collateral damage from the former tend to be more impactful.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Then to think he thinks the Bible actually states this. Nowhere does the Bible say that. In fact

whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me".

Those were Jesus’ words

What's awesome is the bible is FULL of things that aren't in the bible.

"The Lord helps those who help themselves."
- Lord Acton the bible

 

[cpwill]

Ah right, I remember that one well. I was referring to a bombing strike like what was just conducted.

That's true but physical attacks carry a different weight than the cyber variety since the collateral damage from the former tend to be more impactful.

Um.... that is... more the case in popular imagination than it is in this terrifying new world we live in.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Um.... that is... more the case in popular imagination than it is in this terrifying new world we live in.

Not sure the carnage is quite there yet, but it won't help.

 

[cpwill]

Not sure the carnage is quite there yet, but it won't help.

Turn off the grid of an industrialized nation with cyber - it's a WMD. Do it with EMP/Nukes - same thing: WMD.

Destroy a facility with a penetrator? It's an attack. Destroy it with artillery? also an attack. For cyber? The same.

It's not a emotionally gripping, or as overt, or as flashy to most, greed, but, the fact remains that Obama took the same basic act of attacking an Iranian nuclear facility.

 

[jaypatriot]

Yes, yes I can. I have access to this wonderful new thing called the internet. First hit of 350:

Images show "unusual" activity at Iran nuclear site before strikes

"Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated," President Donald Trump said on Saturday.

www.newsweek.com

It wasn't apparent to the average news reader last week. It was apparent to anyone with access to and bothering to read intel reports. It's almost like we have all those satellites for a reason.S

SO some people are making the assumption there was bomb-making materials spirited out of Fordow before the B-2 planes came in.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Turn off the grid of an industrialized nation with cyber - it's a WMD. Do it with EMP/Nukes - same thing: WMD.

Destroy a facility with a penetrator? It's an attack. Destroy it with artillery? also an attack. For cyber? The same.

It's not a emotionally gripping or as flashy to most, agreed, but, the fact remains that Obama took the same basic act.

And how many people were killed?

 

[Hamish Howl]

SO some people are making the assumption there was bomb-making materials spirited out of Fordow before the B-2 planes came in.

16 trucks show up right after we start making threats?

They were probably just lost in the desert. Or maybe the facility included a truck stop and a Stuckeys and it's the last bathroom for 100 kilometers?

Help me out, here.

 

[Tangmo]

Just like with the whole Ukraine fiasco, the executive branch has exceeded its powers by engaging in acts of war.
Just like when Biden & Co authorized blowing up Nord Stream, only to later blame it on Zelensky-Zaluzhny-etc
The Deep State miscreants have learned to shift their activities into the Gray Zone, in order to slip their warmongering thru under the table.

Well there's an old saying that when you can't beat 'em join 'em.

But then again MAGAs would have to give up their compulsion to be angry opponents of what is and to stop hating everyone who isn't a moron. So yes that would be impossible for MAGAs to quit.


MAGA !

 

[cpwill]

And how many people were killed?

Varies by attack.

 

[Tangmo]

It is my sincere fear that yesterday was the beginning of the end for our Republic. Who will stop Trump if he decides to declare martial law? Who will stop Trump if he declares that the 2026 or 2028 elections should be cancelled? Who will stop Trump if he decides to kill protestors or deport U.S. citizens on a massive scale to CECOT? Who will stop Trump if he uses Predator drones to kill his political opponents? Trump has already begun detaining and prosecuting Democrats around the country. Who will stop Trump if he begins detaining Democrats without any excuse?

Trump must be removed from office before he causes more damage to our Republic.

Indeed.


The only Qualifier is that there is no federal martial law. There nothin in the law or the Constitution for a federal martial law. Governors can do martial law in their state, but the Potus has no authority to impose a federal martial law. Neither does Trump talk about martial law or his doing martial law.

 

[Tangmo]

@Lursa

You need to say when the military chiefs and commanders WILL go over to Trump as you post incessantly they WILL do. There's nothing yet of course. This is despite your posts saying month after month some or more of the Pentagon chiefs and commanders WILL go over to Trump.

Your post after post says with firm and absolute certainty some or more Pentagon generals and admirals WILL go over to Trump. There's nothing yet of course -- and there WILL NOT be any such thing as I keep posting against your know nothing make believe posts. Trump has found out he has NO generals and admirals at the Pentagon or anywhere across the armed forces.

Your hellbent posts can't say WHO and they can't say WHEN -- this is because as I keep posting there are NO WHO and there is NO WHEN. Indeed, the generals and admirals you keep saying WILL act do not exist which is why nothing you say is fact or true. It's why your prediction and projection posts are wrong and your every post about it is a FAIL.

WHEN AND WHO?

 

[ClaraD]

Turn off the grid of an industrialized nation with cyber - it's a WMD. Do it with EMP/Nukes - same thing: WMD.

Destroy a facility with a penetrator? It's an attack. Destroy it with artillery? also an attack. For cyber? The same.

It's not a emotionally gripping, or as overt, or as flashy to most, greed, but, the fact remains that Obama took the same basic act of attacking an Iranian nuclear facility.

Except shutting down the Internet doesn’t blow babies to bits

 

[Captain Adverse]

In truth, and IMO, the main threat facing the USA is not a military response from Iran. It is more likely to be a rise in terrorist attacks inside our nation by (I speculate) radical Islamic operatives allowed in during the Biden Administration's open borders period.

Hopefully DHS recognizes this threat and has heightened security around high probability targets. Also begins to monitor middle-eastern migrant activities.

Well, I am shown to be correct.

"Iran warned Donald Trump it would unleash sleeper cell terrorists to wreak havoc on US soil if he attacked, according to reports. Trump received a communiqué from the regime just days before he ordered US military strikes on its nuclear facilities, sources told NBC News.

"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...evenge-terrorist-attacks-nuclear-strikes.html

 

[Lursa]

Trump could absolutely have been lying, or it could have been a deliberate mildec. My guess as to this particular is the latter, but, who knows. Regardless, the stated intent was to forestall - not destroy - a nuclear bomb.

How is that not military strategy? Should he have warned Iran?