Trump Launches War On Iran

[CaughtInThe]

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[anatta]

Israel isn't stopping. Iran has an open ended commitment to retaliate. Trump said Iran gotta sue for peace or more U.S. targeting.
See how long Israel continues and if there anymore US bombing -because Iran will never "come to the table"

Still there is nothing new here in terms of US base exposure, and Israel has been on a tear after Oct 7. It's a long war

 

[markdc]

If you can't pull a quote from somewhere, fine. I'm not reading a 504 page book on it to find a statement you said he made.

https://www.peterbergen.com/7133-2/

From the article:
“The strategy Bin Laden had a strategy for the 9/11 attacks that went beyond simply murdering as many American civilians as possible. He firmly believed the attacks would result in the withdrawal of American forces from the entire Middle East, which would then lead to the collapse of the US-supported Arab regimes that bin Laden despised. It was a strategy that made little sense, as the United States would surely follow its own interests and was hardly likely to abandon its substantial role in the Middle East. But bin Laden truly believed that the US was weak, just as the former Soviet Union had been, and could only absorb a few blows. He drew inspiration from other terrorist groups that had successfully attacked American targets, such as Lebanese Hezbollah, which had bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983, killing 241 American Marines, sailors and soldiers. Within a few months of the attack, the United States pulled out all of its troops from Lebanon. The Marine barracks bombing was very much on bin Laden's mind as he plotted attacks he believed would result in the United States removing its troops from its bases in the Middle East, particularly in Saudi Arabia.”

Mark

 

[Hello My Son]

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"Most qualified candidates" ever!

 

[CaughtInThe]

"Most qualified candidates" ever!

Enjoy the war, terrorist attacks, lack of labor and higher prices.

Should be fun.

 

[vanceen]

Nope. Try to keep up with the conversation.



Debatable.

Truman chose to support the French over Vietnamese nationalists. Once that decision was made, the rest was predictable.

 

[Phys251]

And the trumpers said YES SIR, BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN!

 

[ajn678]

Lol. You should get a grip.

You should learn some history.

 

[Tigerace117]

America and Israel are doing something no other state had the courage to do.
That is, rid the region of a state that promotes terror throughout the Middle East.
Tell us, Iranian apologist, what do you think Iran represents in that region? What purpose do they serve? What have they done for almost 50 years but spread their radical Islamic ideology?

OK, now let us hear you apologize for a terrorist state that serves no useful purpose whatsoever in that region of the world.

America and Israel are doing what nobody else is dumb enough to try.

America promotes terror across the globe. Does that mean someone should start bombing it?

Israel has done nothing but colonize other people’s land and murder civilians for well over fifty years. What purpose do they serve?

 

[Tigerace117]

Not relevant to anything I said. I swear, if someone commented that banana splits taste good, you would come back with some shit like whatabout 'dem South American tyrants the US supported.

Absolutely relevant given the whining in this thread about Iran saying mean stuff about the US or whatever.

 

[Tigerace117]

I know, right? They'd never try that!
Why would anyone fly planes into the Twin Towers?

Al Qaeda wasn’t a country capable of being nuked. The equation doesn’t hold up

 

[CharisRose]

What's an "illegal President?"

A Duly Elected President that an opposition voter did not vote for also known as “Not my president”. imho

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

and again, instead of discussion on how you supported Obama and Biden bombing ..... but hate Trump bombing .... you point 'oh look oh look oh look"

get better , please

I don't know whether you're just guessing based on this person not being a Trump supporter, but personally, I despise Agent Orange but I was absolutely horrified by the bombings you're referencing.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Has Iran declared war on the USA?

I haven't read that it has officially other than the vows of retaliation.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Is it President Gabbard? Nope.

No one said it was, so congrats on the senseless comment.

Of course, if she'd been the lone voice in favor of the attack, that's what you'd be calling Trump.
Is that the official standing of the United States, that Iran is not working towards a nuclear weapon? Again, nope.

Well, that's what the intelligence reports concluded. So if the president isn't listening to his own intelligence agencies, who is he getting information from?

You foolishly want to pick out minority opinions and isolated information in your quest to mislead and misinform, right out of the leftist playbook.
I told you, I know your tactics better than you do.

You actually don't seem to know much about anything related to this unfortunately. Those "minority voices" are the same ones expecting Trump to not do this exact kind of thing because he campaigned on not doing precisely this. Then again, MAGAverse types seem perfectly willing to throw their own under the bus at the drop of a hat, so it shouldn't be too surprising. In none of your response did you manage to produce a reasoned retort other than "nuh-uh".

 

[ClaraD]

Do you think the U.S. military should get involved in the conflict between Israel and Iran?

In response, 16% of Americans said yes, 60% said no, and 24% said they were unsure. Notably, just 19% of respondents who said they voted for Donald Trump in 2024 wanted the U.S. to get involved, with 53% opposed. All self-identified Republicans were opposed 53% to 22%.

Polls: Americans oppose U.S. bombing of Iran

One survey found only 16% of adults, and 19% of Trump voters, support the U.S. bombing Iran. 60% oppose.

www.gelliottmorris.com

 

[ElChupacabra]

HHhmm.....

Remind us when during Obama's tenure Israel led an aerial attack against Iran that the US followed up with additional attacks in order to destroy Iran's nuclear sites rather than negotiating an agreement.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

Doom and gloom suggests you are thinking the worst will happen.

Like thinking Iran might somehow cobble together a couple of nukes and then launch them straight at the U.S.?

That kind of doom and gloom and thinking the worst will happen?

And if you really believe the U.S. bombed Iran because of their skin color, then you really need to brush up on the U.S.-Iranian relationship over the past 45 years.

 

[cpwill]

They're saying this was the plan and that the whole "decide in 2 weeks" press release was camouflage, to surprise Iran.

So...TACO was lying or was TACO was using strategy, hiding his true intentions in order to better position our outcome?

Trump could absolutely have been lying, or it could have been a deliberate mildec. My guess as to this particular is the latter, but, who knows. Regardless, the stated intent was to forestall - not destroy - a nuclear bomb.

 

[cpwill]

Remind us when during Obama's tenure Israel led an aerial attack against Iran that the US followed up with additional attacks in order to destroy Iran's nuclear sites rather than negotiating an agreement.

Just point out - Obama did indeed launch a joint attack against Iranian nuclear facilities with the Israelies.

 

[Crunchtime]

Not being a jerk when I ask this - but if there was nuclear material that we hit, wouldn’t something be detecting radiation of some sort?

Is that being detected at any level?

It’s a valid question which will soon be answered. Let me ask you a question. If Iran sent a ballistic nuclear weapon into Israel would radiation be detected?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Just point out - Obama did indeed launch a joint attack against Iranian nuclear facilities with the Israelies.

You'll kindly remind me of that because I do not recall that being covered. The Obama administration certainly bombed several countries in the Middle East, but I do not remember Iran being one of them since that would have been a big deal back then.

 

[Crunchtime]

I didn’t get an answer yet, @Crunchtime

First time I saw this question.

Iran should have been dealt with harshly decades ago. Obama should have never made a deal with the Iranian regime. That was one of the biggest mistakes in this story. You can’t bargain with extremists of any kind. Biden never should have released money to the mullahs. Trump did the right thing in canceling the deal with Iran and by bombing their nuclear program. Period

 

[cpwill]

You'll kindly remind me of that because I do not recall that being covered.

Yeah - we did it by using a cyberattack to cause the facility to partially self destruct. It was called "stuxnet", and US and Israeli authorship remained technically a secret until Obama wanted an edge in 2012, and leaked it.

The Obama administration certainly bombed several countries in the Middle East, but I do not remember Iran being one of them since that would have been a big deal back then.

You don't gotta drop an aerial bomb to attack a country, any more than you gotta invade it with infantry.