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Trump Introduces Worker's Party As Possible GOP Name Change

justabubba said:
well, in the case of his four bankruptcies he avoid his obligations and allowed others to eat that debt
none of the four concerns emerged from bankruptcy court as an ongoing business
hell of a problem solver
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Well when you find the perfect person who has taken risks and never failed, let me know. I'll support the effort to coronate him king for life. Until then. . .
 
CanadaJohn said:
As the old saying goes, every now and then even a blind squirrel finds a nut. With Trump's supposed brilliance, wouldn't you think just once when he's looking to stir the pot he'd come up with something provocative that wasn't totally dumb ass ignorant? One off the cuff gem that shows the man isn't a total imbecile would be helpful, but I guess that's asking too much and America just has to accept a daily dose of idiocy.
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I accept that he pulls your chain and you don't like him. I have been looking past that at the results he gets. He is succeeding in a world in which dumb ass ignorant is all a huge number of us seem to relate to any more. Just read the posts on this (and countless other) message boards.

For those not completely blinded by prejudice and dislike for Donald Trump, he says a LOT that shows there is a lot of substance there in addition to the showmanship. Check out his speech to AIPAC. That was the first time I started seeing Trump in a different light and began getting interested. He still wasn't on my short list, but once all my guys faltered and dropped out, I found I wasn't completely dismayed about the prospect of a President Trump. A prospect I now hope becomes a reality as I think any alternative offered will be disastrous for us and a lot of others.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I accept that he pulls your chain and you don't like him. I have been looking past that at the results he gets. He is succeeding in a world in which dumb ass ignorant is all a huge number of us seem to relate to any more. Just read the posts on this (and countless other) message boards.

For those not completely blinded by prejudice and dislike for Donald Trump, he says a LOT that shows there is a lot of substance there in addition to the showmanship. Check out his speech to AIPAC. That was the first time I started seeing Trump in a different light and began getting interested. He still wasn't on my short list, but once all my guys faltered and dropped out, I found I wasn't completely dismayed about the prospect of a President Trump. A prospect I now hope becomes a reality as I think any alternative offered will be disastrous for us and a lot of others.
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Don't get me wrong, even with his foot in mouth disease and his utter inability to think before he speaks, he's still better than that smug, deceitful, entitled, conniving option from the Democrats.

If Trump would just shut up for a day or two, relax, take a few strategy meetings with a multitude of smart, conservative, rational people in Republican circles and come up with some real plans of operational value, he might start to get some of the Independents on his side and not just the ones that hate Clinton. I guess what I'm saying is it's about time he found some reasons for people to vote for him and not just against the other guy.
 
AlbqOwl said:
He has never taken Chapter 7.
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now there is one hell of a selling point


of his four bankruptcies, none of which survived, he did not file under chapter 7 even once

he liquidated the businesses under chapter 11, instead ... and then passed the enormous losses to those he had obligated payment in full

what a guy


America, there is a lesson there for you
 
CanadaJohn said:
As the old saying goes, every now and then even a blind squirrel finds a nut. With Trump's supposed brilliance, wouldn't you think just once when he's looking to stir the pot he'd come up with something provocative that wasn't totally dumb ass ignorant? One off the cuff gem that shows the man isn't a total imbecile would be helpful, but I guess that's asking too much and America just has to accept a daily dose of idiocy.
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It's an on-going reminder of a badly made film called Idiocracy. See it.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Don't get me wrong, even with his foot in mouth disease and his utter inability to think before he speaks, he's still better than that smug, deceitful, entitled, conniving option from the Democrats.

If Trump would just shut up for a day or two, relax, take a few strategy meetings with a multitude of smart, conservative, rational people in Republican circles and come up with some real plans of operational value, he might start to get some of the Independents on his side and not just the ones that hate Clinton. I guess what I'm saying is it's about time he found some reasons for people to vote for him and not just against the other guy.
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I understand what you're saying, but the fact is he IS meeting with a multitude of smart, conservative, rationale people in Republican circles and elsewhere. He has a long and strong track record of getting the best advice available and surrounding himself with the best and most competent people he can find. Even Marco Rubio who Trump savaged in the campaign is on the record as wanting to speak on Trump's behalf at the Convention. I'm not so naïve to think Marco isn't being entirely self-serving with that offer, but nevertheless it is an indication that the establishment is falling into line behind Trump as well as those of us who would vote for almost anybody who isn't part of the establishment.

IMO, the outrageous statements are partly to keep all that free publicity flowing his way and partly to reassure some that he is not an establishment candidate and, I think, simply because he has fun with it.

Everybody who is close to the Donald defines him in the same way: a smart, funny, optimistic person who lights up any room he enters and who has an entirely all-business serious side as well as being a loyal friend and compassionate and caring to others who have no means of repaying him. I'm not finding a lot of serious character flaws in this man. According to his son Eric, the two things he absolutely will not tolerate are stupidity and incompetence.



Those of us 'rebels' simply believe we can't afford any more of the status quo. Not from the Democrats. Not from the Republicans.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well when you find the perfect person who has taken risks and never failed, let me know. I'll support the effort to coronate him king for life. Until then. . .
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Well, according to the records the Clintons had an investment company that never lost money on a deal.
 
“Five, 10 years from now — different party. You’re going to have a worker’s party," Trump said in the May 17 interview. "A party of people that haven’t had a real wage increase in 18 years, that are angry."
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Odd how the small change of making the lowercase "w" an uppercase "W" can change the whole context of what was said... Maybe we should have a little more integrity when starting threads....
 
justabubba said:
now there is one hell of a selling point


of his four bankruptcies, none of which survived, he did not file under chapter 7 even once

he liquidated the businesses under chapter 11, instead ... and then passed the enormous losses to those he had obligated payment in full

what a guy


America, there is a lesson there for you
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Trump has never had the opportunity to use the heavy hand of government to do it - President Obama actually has. Trump may do so if and when he is President, but that's just speculation at this point.
 
justabubba said:
now there is one hell of a selling point


of his four bankruptcies, none of which survived, he did not file under chapter 7 even once

he liquidated the businesses under chapter 11, instead ... and then passed the enormous losses to those he had obligated payment in full

what a guy


America, there is a lesson there for you
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Yep. The lesson is that laws passed to help people out will also be utilized by the very rich. As they should be.

Never mind that all of the bankruptcy filings that have involved Trump were with Atlantic City casinos he had controlling interest in. Never mind that all Atlantic City casinos are in trouble--four could not be saved through bankruptcy reorganization and have closed--six others declared bankruptcy, and the other two are teetering on the brink. New Jersey and the federal government are scrambling to keep Atlantic City itself from filing bankruptcy.

So lay all that on Trump? Difficult to do within the broader picture isn't it. When the bankruptcies gave protection during reorganization, that saved a lot of jobs. Payments to the 'little guys' were temporarily delayed, but they have been or will be paid. The only ones who lost any serious money were big dollar financiers and as Trump said, those guys knew what they were doing and they'll all be just fine.

Do I consider all this to be commendable? Of course not. But do I think those who hate Trump are making it a much bigger deal than it actually is? Yes I do.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Well, according to the records the Clintons had an investment company that never lost money on a deal.
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Really? What investment company was that? I have been under the impression that neither one of them have ever run or managed any kind of business and have been dependent on government and gratuitous situations dependent on their government involvement their entire adult lives.
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Well, according to the records the Clintons had an investment company that never lost money on a deal.
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Really? What investment company was that? Or are you being tongue-in-cheek?

I can't find any record that either one of them ever held a private sector job much less ever owned or managed any kind of business. Unless you count the Rose Law Firm and Hillary would never have been considered for that if she wasn't married to the A.G. of Arkansas. As it was she has nothing to point to as any accomplishment of any kind while working for Rose. Both have lived their entire adult lives working for the government or in gratuitous opportunities based pure on their government connections.
 
faithful_servant said:
Odd how the small change of making the lowercase "w" an uppercase "W" can change the whole context of what was said... Maybe we should have a little more integrity when starting threads....
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Honestly no one cares about silly political grammar things unless they are trying to turn things into something they are not by twisted logic. I feel that the title of the thread should always be capitalized... And that's why I did it!
 
WCH said:
Those two articles say nothing about changing the GOP's name. Did you just make that up?
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Uh No. Trump did. It's clear he wants it to be the worker's party he wants to remake the GOP into a more populist political party that centers around nationalism and racism and xenophobia. Notice he said "MY" GOP "Will Become," a worker's party. He didn't say. Republicans are workers. He specifically said Worker's Party. If he is somewhat successful he might be able to transform the GOP into the American Worker's Party, and that's something I would want a part of.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Trump has never had the opportunity to use the heavy hand of government to do it - President Obama actually has. Trump may do so if and when he is President, but that's just speculation at this point.
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Hey why not let him OJT...what could possibly go wrong!
When your neighbor shows up with a skiploader or a Bobcat, or even a Ditch Witch, do you worry he might damage your house?
Nope. If he shows up next day with a 150 ton crane with a wrecking ball, you're probably inclined to find out if he took some training and got insurance before he rented it.

Bush already proved what happens when you let a fifth grader borrow the keys.
Now we're looking at a ninth grader, with a huge chip on his shoulder and a very rich dead daddy who left him everything.
 
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