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Trump Caught On Hot Mic In 2005: 'Grab Them By The P***y'

Excon said:
You are making things up to believe.
He spoke to what he was allowed to do. Not what he wasn't allowed to do.
Again. "They let you", not they don't let you.
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Again, a beauty pageant model is not consenting when groped when she is not asked before hand, she is not consenting when she is silent because she knows she will be out if she refuses. Silence is not consent. "they let you" is not a description of consent, it is a description of a male in a power position who can get away with what he does, it is a very old story and to act as if women putting up with abuse is "consent" is just a continuation of allowance.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Yes what kind of a woman cannot find it in her heart to show kindness to the women that her husband slept around on her with...:roll:
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It was not the kindness in her heart but the nasty words on her lips.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, a beauty pageant model is not consenting when groped when she is not asked before hand, she is not consenting when she is silent because she knows she will be out if she refuses. Silence is not consent. "they let you" is not a description of consent, it is a description of a male in a power position who can get away with what he does, it is a very old story and to act as if women putting up with abuse is "consent" is just a continuation of allowance.
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Why are you making things up. Not once did he describe what you are presenting.
He described those who "let you".
 
Trump's excuses sound like the psychological manipulations of an abuser.
 
Excon said:
And again.
1. You only define what a "real man" is for yourself. Not for others.
2. There was no talk of sexual assault here, so to even suggest that is dishonest partisan hackery.​

#1 Stands as is. You do not get to decide for others what a "real man" is. Period.

Secondly. Trump spoke to what they allowed him to do. That is not sexual assault. Your claim may not be partisan but it is dishonest
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So he wet up to women and politely asked "might I grab your *****?"
 
Excon said:
Why are you making things up. Not once did he describe what you are presenting.
He described those who "let you".
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I know, yer only input on whether consent is given....is from the aggressor, the person in power. TV showmen are know for their transparency.
 
year2late said:
So he wet up to women and politely asked "might I grab your *****?"
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He spoke of what they "let you do". Not of what they did not let him do.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I know, yer only input on whether consent is given....is from the aggressor, the person in power. TV showmen are know for their transparency.
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there you go making things up to believe again.
You have no information to say what he was speaking about was not consensual. All we have is him speaking about what "they let you" do. Not what they don't let you do.
 
Excon said:
there you go making things up to believe again.
You have no information to say what he was speaking about was not consensual. All we have is him speaking about what "they let you" do. Not what they don't let you do.
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That is the point, he is not the arbiter of whether it is consensual.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
That is the point, he is not the arbiter of whether it is consensual.
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Another irrational rely.
He spoke of consensual activity.
Not of non-consensual activity.
 
Excon said:
Another irrational rely.
He spoke of consensual activity.
Not of non-consensual activity.
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Consent is an agreement between 2 parties, you are arguing that we only need one side of a story to determine consent. You refuse to define consent.
 
Anyone who has any doubt that Trump will lose next month needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

The man is in a hole and he is still digging.By election day he may have reached China.

:lol:



"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch,running out of time,GOP.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Consent is an agreement between 2 parties, you are arguing that we only need one side of a story to determine consent. You refuse to define consent.
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They let him is consensual. They not letting him would be non-consensual.
The only issue here is your lack of understanding.
 
Fletch said:
The support he has among republicans is irrelevant. Its a binary choice. Where would you like them to go? And Trump isn't a republican problem, he has unwittingly illuminated the solution. Think of it this way: a different republican saying the same things as Trump without constantly putting his foot in his mouth would be leading Hillary by double digits.
He has the right message but is the wrong messenger.
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If you believe that you are out of touch with reality.
 
I would call Trump an opportunistic liberal. The only conservative ideal he seems to embrace fully is anti illegal immigration and law and order - but even that is probably a guise. Either way he's a Statist. He thinks the power of government - in his case he means him alone - can solve all problems and should control people's lives. Total dick.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You cannot claim understanding with one side of a story.
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You can't claim there is another side of the story, let alone a negative story.

He spoke about being let to do something. Not of not being let to do something.
That is all we have to go on. You can't make up opposites to it to believe what you want.
That doesn't fly.


They let him is consensual. They not letting him would be non-consensual.
 
Excon said:
You can't claim there is another side of the story, let alone a negative story.
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wTF!? yer arguing about consent being given....and somehow that does not involve a 2nd party? Good grief, what a frigging moronic, insane argument!

He spoke about being let to do something. Not of not being let to do something.
That is all we have to go on. You can't make up opposites to it to believe what you want.
That doesn't fly.
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I can certainly show that one side does not make a complete story, that he has a history of NOT being given permission, I can show how consent is defined and that assuming the other side gave permission is not ACTUALLY consent at all.


They let him is consensual. They not letting him would be non-consensual.
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An argument still based on one sides statement, this is not consent, it is a cool story, bro.
 
TheGoverness said:
To be fair, it's Trump saying that he could, not that he actually did.
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You know it'll funny.. I have to wonder if his latest comments wil lead to someone going after him.
 
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