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Transwomen are not women and why radfems object to the idea

I see that...I really do...and it was hard for me to see that. I do now...in terms of understanding what you mean, if I agree or not..but at the same time I don't see how we invalidate reality...
 
Hormone blockers are only given for a few months to 2 years with estrogen, and then they have gender surgery.
That is simple not true...But we are at the cusp of facism...Let us ar least in this Forum fight against it..
 
I am Not talking about trump or biden....But that in in America we see the other side as inhernently evil ....this is is gonna end in a disaster
 
As a european i should know...this Extreme Division is spelling very Bad outcomes....Empathy for all of our fellow humans
 
That is simple not true...But we are at the cusp of facism...Let us ar least in this Forum fight against it..
Who told you that they are taken for longer? They are only given for a short time to suppress the natal hormones and they stop at surgery because they are not needed.
 
I have lost several relatives in war...this infighting should not contiue this way...I recognise this is a Contentious issue...I agree...BUT if we keep this hatred up... it seems quite Dark ... yes Contentious debate is wonderful..
Just Not such hatred
 
Who told you that they are taken for longer? They are only given for a short time to suppress the natal hormones and they stop at surgery because they are not needed.
Honestly i know from med Experts and commom sense that if you mess with a young Persons Hormons it is obviously hard to reverse it later on obviously...
 
But again none of that really matters...We live in a Time where adherence to ideology matters more...This harted has to end
 
But again none of that really matters...We live in a Time where adherence to ideology matters more...This harted has to end
I know it Sounds like the dumbest clishe....Bur I really think that this hatred has to end...before ANYTHING else
 
I know it Sounds like the dumbest clishe....Bur I really think that this hatred has to end...before ANYTHING else
And by anything else i mean any other topic
 
Thank you for a concise summary which is close to my point(s). A 5 or 6 letter acronym for the labels those without positive experience (or no relevant experience at all) is stepwise, but in the real world of the actual participants in these 'communities' it is more like a probability distribution, with each letter concentrated around each peak. Some experience the spectrum of experiences (oops, almost wrote mental and physical again) as dynamic - like riding a rollercoaster - and some not, one labeled activity merging with others, or barely approaching them at all.

I have always lived my life with the outlook that life is to be fully experienced and with an open mind, and not just take actions limited to and directed by general opinion. If it looks like it won't kill or damage me permanently, It's worth a try or 3. I know what its like to jump out of an airplane, dive to the bottom of the sea, and most every adventure in between. I know where most every non-injected drug will take you, and just how vast and varied the sexual world can be. So when people try to analyze, vilify, and compartmentalize sex (and gender) preferences, I realize they are simply too regimented to try things, or open mindedly study things before judging them.

We are complicated beings and have no idea how the brain actually works - it is the most complex and disorganized organized system in the universe. And sex and gender are complex subsystems that are influenced by our entire existence, and vary in more ways than they are the same - binary is a mathematical system, not biologic. We have taken most every other aspect of our lives and raised the complexity to the highest levels we are capable of; just watch the fantasy worlds created within movies or video games! We conquer mountains and sail the oceans for fun and excitement with the world watching with encouragement, but are afraid to expand and experience the psychosexual adventures that may or may not blur gender, with neither (actual) crime nor fowl if all parties consent. Like a lot of other things, it fun and fulfilling, whatever you choose to do (or not do) by yourself or with company!
 
A trans female is not a male and never was a male

Good grief, I hope you aren't a doctor. Many medicines require different doses for males and females due to physiologic differences. The difference can mean life or death.


Physiologic differences between men and women affect drug activity, including pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics. Pharmacokinetics in women is affected by lower body weight, slower gastrointestinal motility, less intestinal enzymatic activity, and slower glomerular filtration rate. Because of delayed gastric emptying, women may need to extend the interval between eating and taking medications that must be absorbed on an empty stomach. Other physiologic differences may affect medication dosages. For example, because renal clearance is slower in women, some renally-excreted medications, such as digoxin, may require a dosage adjustment. Pharmacodynamic differences in women include greater sensitivity to and enhanced effectiveness of beta blockers, opioids, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and typical antipsychotics.

(please note the correct use of men and women when referring to male and female).
 
Yes that's a woman and that's a guy. it doesn't matter that they change their physical appearance. That does not change their sex.
 

See, I would describe gender as closer to the idea of feminine/masculine mixed with (wo)manmade gender expectations and stereotypes. A woman is just the word given to a female human in the same sense that a ewe is a female sheep and a mare is a female horse. And like wise for man and bull for a male cow, etc.
 
The science simply doesnt back up your preschool understanding of gender and sex
? No male can become a female and no female can become a male. That is scientific.
 
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Yes that's a woman and that's a guy.
True.
it doesn't matter that they change their physical appearance.
It causes quite a bit of confusion — hence it shouldn't be done.
That does not change their sex
True.
Our outwards physical bodies are only part of the equation and are not determinative on their own.
True, but the definition of sex as per Merriam & Webster is "the sum of the structural, functional, and sometimes behavioral characteristics of organisms that distinguish males and females" and the "sum" with most transganders is that they are of the sex they were born as.
It's a real issue.
From a practical point, back in the 50s and 60s, black women using white women's toilets and changing rooms made many white women uncomfortable.
Irrelevant. They were/are of the same sex.
 

If a transgender person doesn't have GD, then what is the reason for identifying as trans if not a deliberate choice?



Good grief. Do you also think if Usain Bolt identified as a woman that female sprinters would be able to compete with him(her)?

Are you really unaware that males have more muscle mass, denser bones, and are stronger than women??
 

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this blog by a transwoman. It's a very interesting and thought-provoking article.

 
? No male can become a female and no female can become a male. That is scientific.
Nope. Women can become men and men can become women. There are many who have completed the transition. You need to provide scientific studies.
 
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