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Why are you questioning someone’s identity?
It is just strange to me to want to be of a different race? How is that achieved? How is that equivalent to being transgender?
 

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It is just strange to me to want to be of a different race? How is that achieved? How is that equivalent to being transgender?
There are published papers about it you can buy and read if you’re that curious.
 

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It is just strange to me to want to be of a different race? How is that achieved? How is that equivalent to being transgender?
Blackness is really a superficial thing as are all classification of race. It's arbitrary and based on a collection of characteristics that aren't necessarily hereditary.

Races more of a societal construct than sex is. We can change race just by redefining it. No surgery, no hormones nothing.

To pretend that this is an immutable characteristic while sex isn't is to take leave of all rationale.
 

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Well it's normally really Petty. But they're the ones that use it as a slur more often than anyone else and they're the ones that try and shame me into agreeing with them using my sexuality I call that homophobia.
The left doesnt like diversity of thought. I guess a gay man is supposed to be liberal.
 

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Trans and gender activists want to get rid of sex-based rights. To do that, you need to get rid of sex as an identifying mark between men and women and replace it with feelings, hence why the definition of woman as an adult human female (sex-based) is now declared transphobic despite it being the only definition of woman in it's 800-year existence as a word.

And unfortunately for you, as a gay man, you're no longer attracted to people of the same sex, as that is also transphobic. Gay now means same-gender attraction.
Trans activists do not want to take away rights :).
 

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The left doesnt like diversity of thought. I guess a gay man is supposed to be liberal.
I'm supposed to think a certain way, I'm supposed to hate Christians. I'm supposed to always support feminism. I've been told by other gay men that my lifestyle is enslavement because it is "heteronormative." (Meaning I'm in a monogamous relationship with one person)
 

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I'm supposed to think a certain way, I'm supposed to hate Christians. I'm supposed to always support feminism. I've been told by other gay men that my lifestyle is enslavement because it is "heteronormative." (Meaning I'm in a monogamous relationship with one person)
Damn you for being Heteronormative, lol.
 

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Yup, Laurel Hubbard man turned women is poised to make history and headlines, as well as controversy, after being confirmed as the first transgender athlete to compete at an Olympic Games.

And the he she is a weightlifter, lived as a male for 35 years ..not fair ..how did we ever get to this place.

We, humanity are IMHO distancing ourselves more and more from nature, the Covid is just the first salvo of mother natures effort to teach us we can only stray so far.

The War On Women by the progressive corporate fascists is so intense they now demand everyone agree that being female is SO TRIVIAL that it is merely the person's frame of mind at the time, for which otherwise they are going to prove that men are better than women even at being women, so genetic males should get 100% of all athletic money, careers and fame - for which actually biological females are supposed to make them sandwiches.
 

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Most of the homophobia you experienced is from woke people? I'd expect them to be the last people to be homophobic.
It is that since he's gay he is banned from any independent thought and they speak for him. Since he does not agree, he's the enemy. Democratic politics isn't about issues to ordinary Democrats. They are told what they may and may not think, say or do. It is singularly about loyalty to the masters and this month's talking points.

The other thing is that gay rights has next to nothing to do with trans rights.
 

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The War On Women by the progressive corporate fascists is so intense they now demand everyone agree that being female is SO TRIVIAL that it is merely the person's frame of mind at the time, for which otherwise they are going to prove that men are better than women even at being women, so genetic males should get 100% of all athletic money, careers and fame - for which actually biological females are supposed to make them sandwiches.
You logically cannot be both progressive at the same time as you are either corporate or fascist. Progressives, such as myself are economic socialists, which is the opposite of both fascist and corporate. Please stop using words that you dont understand their definitions. Those words aren't like sh*t p*ss f*ck, and a'hole.
 

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Yes .. screw those individuals struggling with racial dysphoria, as it doesn't exist. Rachel Dolezal, Oli London, etc .. **** them .. their internal struggles with race are not the same with boys that think they are girls. Gosh .. how dare they even raise it as an issue.
 

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Blackness is really a superficial thing as are all classification of race. It's arbitrary and based on a collection of characteristics that aren't necessarily hereditary.

Races more of a societal construct than sex is. We can change race just by redefining it. No surgery, no hormones nothing.

To pretend that this is an immutable characteristic while sex isn't is to take leave of all rationale.
Im slowly coming to the conclusion there are no "races".
 

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You logically cannot be both progressive at the same time as you are either corporate or fascist. Progressives, such as myself are economic socialists, which is the opposite of both fascist and corporate. Please stop using words that you dont understand their definitions. Those words aren't like sh*t p*ss f*ck, and a'hole.

Joe Biden said, literally, Democrats "will not longer accept facts," so I understand you can't read the rest and will just sneer, try to divert, ridicule, if you act like nearly all progressive Democrats do in messages.

NAZI MEANS NATIONAL (federal) SOCIALIST WORKER'S PARTY - meaning YOU are to be their brown shirts, mobs, rioters and to create the chaos that eliminates any power ordinary people may have.

Corporate-fascism is the marriage of the plutocrats/mega rich corporations with government. Per corporate fascism, everyone but the plutocrats and kleptocrats (top in government) are to live under socialism as lower class non-union workers. This way, the super rich are not paying for employees insurance, benefits, retirement etc because they want all that money too. Rather, the government takes taxes from the middle merchant class - as they destroy it - to pay the employees thru the government - making the vast majority of their peasants government dependents.

That is exactly what is happening, isn't it? Do you hear progressive Democrats demanding Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and the rest of the big corporate guys and their companies to pay taxes? To require they provide full good medical coverage to their employees and family? A retirement account?

NO! They - you - all demand the government takes care of all of that because you agree hell should freeze over before their richest white racist male employers pay for their employees - like it used to be in the past. Put a prayer cloth in your home for Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg, Dorsey and the rest. That is who you serve.

And don't bother defending them. I am well aware that to this date I have never read any progressive Democrat do anything rush to the defense of any rich white male racist billionaire, not even just not criticizing them.

Know the secular gods you picked and dance for. Live your life for, like it or not. It is established they can order you to do nor not do anything - and have tens of thousands of "executive officers" to issue the edicts they order thru their control of all info - ala Nazism style - thru their propaganda outlets. Cross them any your reputation is gone, career is gone, you are made to be publicly hated, silenced and banned.

Of course, UNIONS are banned from off Big Tech and super rich corporations. Big Tech sees blacks and Latinos only good for cleaning their toilets and mowing the yard - not 10% of the employees are black or Latino combined.

Oh, and check out what happened to Amazon's male employee who on Amazon employee's chat forum, who so politely suggested some ways to make Amazon more open to female employees. Guards escorted him out to the building - fired. There is no job-protect of the employees of the super rich. You are their slave, or you are fired and blackballed from every being employed in that field again.

And read the domestic agenda Hitler had in Mein Kampf. There isn't a nickel's worth of difference from it and the anti-liberal progressive Democratic officials and talking heads - plus of course Big Tech - who control now essentially all television stations, newspapers, media 90% of on Internet info flow.
 

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They try to savage anyone who doesn’t agree with them and have no qualms about using sexist and homophobic slurs and innuendo to do it.
I've been crapped on by the woke types for loving my partner.

I'd say it's probably worse for someone who's gay and goes against the woke types because they want to proprietary claim on being accepting of gay people. If you deny them that since being woke is about self-aggrandizing more than it is about helping anyone else they get really nasty.

Also a gay person not towing the party line shows that that's possible and it might encourage others to do it that's the only reason I'm out on this board.
 

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Have we got to the claim that activists are demanding women sacrifice their breasts on the altar of wokeness yet?…. Were getting there… TERFs are already calling trans rights the holocaust of women.
 

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Have we got to the claim that activists are demanding women sacrifice their breasts on the altar of wokeness yet?…. Were getting there… TERFs are already calling trans rights the holocaust of women.
That is a new level of stupid, but I'm certain that they will dig deeper.
 

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I've been crapped on by the woke types for loving my partner.

I'd say it's probably worse for someone who's gay and goes against the woke types because they want to proprietary claim on being accepting of gay people. If you deny them that since being woke is about self-aggrandizing more than it is about helping anyone else they get really nasty.

Also a gay person not towing the party line shows that that's possible and it might encourage others to do it that's the only reason I'm out on this board.
The left can be quite intolerant. If a black person doesnt think like a white liberal wants them to think, they arent black. If a gay guy doesnt think like a white liberal wants them to think, they arent gay.
 

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The left can be quite intolerant. If a black person doesnt think like a white liberal wants them to think, they arent black. If a gay guy doesnt think like a white liberal wants them to think, they arent gay.
What was the disagreement?
 

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I'm supposed to think a certain way, I'm supposed to hate Christians. I'm supposed to always support feminism. I've been told by other gay men that my lifestyle is enslavement because it is "heteronormative." (Meaning I'm in a monogamous relationship with one person)

As long as I've read your posts I never picked up on you being gay. A gay conservative? Get back on the plantation!
Funny how quickly the left loses the right to alternate viewpoints, isn't it? The conservative community doesn't care about you being gay (at least most of it), but the left can't allow a gay person to be conservative. That person MUST be attacked!
 
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