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Annoy the hell out of Burger King employees and customers?
It seems like the original movement had some positive elements but has been somewhat hijacked by clowns, not unlike the Tea Party.Those in charge of the Occupy Wall Street Journal say this....
It seems like the original movement had some positive elements but has been somewhat hijacked by clowns, not unlike the Tea Party.
Are you thoroughly sick of all things to do with Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Whatever? Pro and anti? Tired of hearing about it, tired of arguing about it, tired of the overhyped mega-partisanship?
I'm tired of hearing about it and don't want to debate it anymore. Everyone has their entrenched position and just spews venom at the other side. It's pointless.
What say you? Tired of hearing about it yet?
I was referring more to the select few that actually want fiscal responsibility in either movement, as opposed to the social and political activists that are the most vocal/obnoxious.That guy is part of the original movement.....
Annoy the hell out of Burger King employees and customers?
I'm not tired of hearing about, although I don't want to hear about it 24/7.
I'm going to be honest here. The OWS movement really reminds me of the Green Revolution in Iran. Now, in regards to that, I don't mean the political oppression - rather, I mean the obstacles that the populace face.
During the Green Revolution, I was listening to NPR and they were covering it quite a bit. What I got from that coverage was that the reasons why the Iranians were protesting was because of the following reasons:
1) about 50% of the Iranian population is under the age of 25
2) those 20-somethings are mostly college or university educated
3) they can't get jobs that pay to the level of their education
So the issues that caused unrest in Iran is causing unrest here in the U.S., and with good reason.
But I don't see either movement as political - rather, I see them as societal.
By that, I mean that I don't think most of the Iranians necessarily mind living under an authoritarian religious-based government so long as the government is able to provide the Iranian populace with jobs that provide them with good pay. Likewise, I don't think OWS really mind Wall Street and the big financial firms so long as they provide the U.S. populace with jobs that provide them with good pay.
These are some serious social issues and they need to be addressed and resolved. If they aren't addressed, then the things that cause such societal unrest don't go away - they remain until they are resolved.
Also, yesterday on NPR I heard something quite interesting. Someone who worked for a Wall Street firm decided to put on his blue business suit and go down to the OWS camp. He went to the Anarchist Information Center there and he talked to the people there. He said he was able to educate them on Wall Street and they were able to educate him on anarchy.
Another thing he did was he talked to his non-Wall Street friends and asked them how important the financial firms were to the U.S. economy. They said about 20%. He then asked his Wall Street friends how important the firms were to the economy. They said about 80%. So he pointed out the huge difference in the perceived value of these financial firms.
So this got me thinking that a really good idea to do would be to get the CEOs of these Wall Street firms and the leading advocates of the Occupy Wall Street movement and put them in a room together and get them to talk to each other. Maybe if both sides were able to talk and communicate directly face-to-face both sides would become sympathetic with each other and both sides can start working together to resolve the issues troubling them both rather than clash with each other.
After all, a number of corporations are becoming more socially aware and active. I know that one of these is Starbucks. The Starbucks Corporation is getting involved in improving education here in the U.S. They also set up a micro-loan program for farmers in Africa. So some of these big businesses are doing very important social work.
That is something I'd like to see much more of. Maybe by getting both sides to talk to each other, discuss these issues, and come up with methods of attaining solutions, we can resolve these problems that's causing social unrest.
Just shows how much they really care about their fellow countrymen. Whata' buncha' asses.
But you see, that is just lowering the level of discourse just to do it. When people where accusing the Tea party of stupid things and calling them names, I defended the Tea Party. Those who where backing me and thanking my posts then are now the ones attacking OWS for the same crap. When you use the "well Johnny did it so I should to" excuse, instead of arguing what is right no matter what, you are part of the reason political discussion in this country is so vile at times.
\That guy is part of the original movement.....
It was fun for awhile pointing out the hypocrisy of the Tea Partiers attacking OWS in the same way they bitched about being attacked(some tea partiers, not all).
Intersting what we notice, isn't it? You notice that the same people who liked your posts when you defended the TEA now criticizing OWS. I notice the same people that accused the TEA party of engaging in "violent rhetoric" and being potentially violent give OWS a complete pass. Really, though, what is OWS being accused of that isn't true? Are you telling me there is nothing OWS has engaged in that cannot be legitimately criticized?
You should join me in laughing and pointing out the hypocrisy from both sides rather than just enjoying pointing at the Tea Partiers. Suddenly those that KNOW the tea party is racist because some jackass held up a sign wants to complain that people suggest OWS is anti-semetic because some jackass held up a sign about a jewish conspiracy. Suddenly those that mock anyone who declares the Tea Parties focus is on social issues because some of their members are social conservatives gets pissy when someone suggest OWS is about getting more handouts from the government because of signs and interviews coming out from people demanding handouts.
The whole things just one giant whirlwind of hypocrisy with plenty to point and laugh about on all sides.
Frankly I'm tired of the media coverage from both the liberal and conservative slanted media, they're both getting ridiculously stupid and are actually becoming even a parody as both sides are blazing the coverage so quickly whether then the long extended nature of it with the tea party. If coverage, pro and con, for that was an even 45 MPH for a year or so now, OWS coverage is going about 125 MPH.
I'm definitely sick of it all.
It seems like the original movement had some positive elements but has been somewhat hijacked by clowns, not unlike the Tea Party.
I support them at heart, but I disagree with most of their message. Even though this is not an official demand list, many of their demands are outright absurd. In addition, the movement is not cohesive and they are not making any headway influencing Washington. It is more of a motley crew bitching and moaning, than a valid movement.
Forum Post: Proposed list of OWS Demands | OccupyWallSt.org
I agree that we have a problem with rampant cronyism and incestuous behavior between Wall St and Washington. I believe that there is too much white collar crime happening on Wall St. and it needs to stop. I believe that some of these big financial firms need to be broken up, investigated, and possibly throwing people in jail for crashing the global economy due to myopic greed.
I was right there defending the Tea Party when the idiots where making stupid charges. You know that. What the **** more do you want?
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