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Theresa May to face vote of no confidence today!

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46535739


UK Prime Minister Theresa May faces a vote of confidence in her leadership later after 48 of her Conservative MPs called for one to be held.

But a defiant Mrs May vowed to contest the vote "with everything I have got".

She warned that a new prime minister would be faced with the choice of "delaying or even stopping Brexit".

A majority of Tory MPs have publicly said they will back the PM in the vote, which runs for two hours from 18:00 GMT, but it is a secret ballot.




Disastrous few weeks for May comes to a head later this evening and if she doesn't survive it then the consequences for Brexit and the economy could be extremely negative. I'm not a huge fan Of May's but I genuinely don't envy her position and I think she got the best possible deal that we could get.
 

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Good. I realize that I am falling into conspiracy-theory territory, but if I were the on the European Union's side trying to keep Britain from leaving the Union, I do not think I could find someone better to negotiate against than Theresa May. She seems bought and paid for by the Council of Europe to purposefully gin up the worst possible exit deal totally unacceptable to the people of Britain.
 

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It does not sound as if there will be enough votes to see the back of her.

This vote was triggered by the Hard Brexiteers that sold the public an unrealistic vision in the first place, but if you broke it you bought it!

Good luck to the UK, they will need it.
 

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It does not sound as if there will be enough votes to see the back of her.

This vote was triggered by the Hard Brexiteers that sold the public an unrealistic vision in the first place, but if you broke it you bought it!

Good luck to the UK, they will need it.


Her main concern will be getting a big enough majority, if its close then that could also be curtains for her.
 

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About time. She cant even get Brexit off the ground. A total incompetent. Boris Johnson ought to be PM.
 

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About time. She cant even get Brexit off the ground. A total incompetent. Boris Johnson ought to be PM.

Boris wouldn't touch that toxic job if they begged him. Easier to sit on the sidelines and spout unrealistic BS.

I think the UK's least distasteful option is to take a mulligan and schedule another referendum (Hard, Soft, No) complete with the a dummies guide to Brexit. If the Brits still vote for Leave, well good on 'em, and they can say goodbye to Scotland and Northern Ireland as well.

I'm not a May fan, she wanted to be PM and she got the prize, but she can hardly be faulted alone for what was always going to be a sh*tshow.
 

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This must be the poster child for those who warn about direct democracy. It can be so disruptive when the people get to make a decision and no one can figure out a way to go against the vote of the people.

Unfortunate all the way around.
 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46535739


UK Prime Minister Theresa May faces a vote of confidence in her leadership later after 48 of her Conservative MPs called for one to be held.

But a defiant Mrs May vowed to contest the vote "with everything I have got".

She warned that a new prime minister would be faced with the choice of "delaying or even stopping Brexit".

A majority of Tory MPs have publicly said they will back the PM in the vote, which runs for two hours from 18:00 GMT, but it is a secret ballot.




Disastrous few weeks for May comes to a head later this evening and if she doesn't survive it then the consequences for Brexit and the economy could be extremely negative. I'm not a huge fan Of May's but I genuinely don't envy her position and I think she got the best possible deal that we could get.
From what I understand she has brought this upon herself by refusing to exit the EU. She has been defying what the people voted for. Now she is paying a heavy political price.

We are seeing this all over the world. We voted an outsider in here, Italy did the same. Globalism in France and Germany are both in trouble.

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From what I understand she has brought this upon herself by refusing to exit the EU. She has been defying what the people voted for. Now she is paying a heavy political price.

We are seeing this all over the world. We voted an outsider in here, Italy did the same. Globalism in France and Germany are both in trouble.

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On the contrary she’s been trying to strike a deal to get us out the EU. Getting a deal that people want however has proved the biggest hurdle. Europe haven’t exactly moved mountains to let us leave and she’s come up against a lot of opposition here as well.
 

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From what I understand she has brought this upon herself by refusing to exit the EU.

Wrong..

She has been defying what the people voted for.

37% of the people voted to leave.. the rest either did not vote or voted against.

Now she is paying a heavy political price.

She should never have been in the position in the first place. Remember she was at first a non elected Prime Minister, and when she finally tried to grab more power by calling an early election.. she then failed to gain a majority and has to rely on a small Northern Ireland fanatical Christian party to stay in power. On top of that, the party she is in, has been in civil war over Europe for 40 years and that does not help one bit. In fact many would claim that Brexit was a Tory party civil war spreading outside the party into the population.

We are seeing this all over the world. We voted an outsider in here, Italy did the same. Globalism in France and Germany are both in trouble.

No, has nothing to do with this. And this globalism bs has to stop... and when will people starting calling it for what it is when someone claims "globalsim".
 

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She survives but the vote doesn’t look great, hardly an endorsement
 

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From what I understand she has brought this upon herself by refusing to exit the EU. She has been defying what the people voted for. Now she is paying a heavy political price.

We are seeing this all over the world. We voted an outsider in here, Italy did the same. Globalism in France and Germany are both in trouble.

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On the contrary, she’s supports Brexit as a popular demand and consistently berates Corbyn from the dispatch box for opposing it and calling for another referendum. The problem is that the Brexit minister position has been a revolving door and there’s no such thing as a deal that will make everyone happy.
 

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On the contrary she’s been trying to strike a deal to get us out the EU. Getting a deal that people want however has proved the biggest hurdle. Europe haven’t exactly moved mountains to let us leave and she’s come up against a lot of opposition here as well.
I thought it was the opposite but I dont follow it closely.

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Wrong..



37% of the people voted to leave.. the rest either did not vote or voted against.



She should never have been in the position in the first place. Remember she was at first a non elected Prime Minister, and when she finally tried to grab more power by calling an early election.. she then failed to gain a majority and has to rely on a small Northern Ireland fanatical Christian party to stay in power. On top of that, the party she is in, has been in civil war over Europe for 40 years and that does not help one bit. In fact many would claim that Brexit was a Tory party civil war spreading outside the party into the population.



No, has nothing to do with this. And this globalism bs has to stop... and when will people starting calling it for what it is when someone claims "globalsim".
It must scare the Dickens out of a socialist like yourself that there is nationalistic populistic movement growing all around you.

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It must scare the Dickens out of a socialist like yourself that there is nationalistic populistic movement growing all around you.

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I am not a socialist... far from it. And yes I am worried about the rise of neo Nazi facist ideology in the US and Europe and now in Brazil.

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On the contrary, she’s supports Brexit as a popular demand and consistently berates Corbyn from the dispatch box for opposing it and calling for another referendum. The problem is that the Brexit minister position has been a revolving door and there’s no such thing as a deal that will make everyone happy.
I am confused why 2 years after the vote the UK is still tied to the EU. I was under the impression that she was Englands version of what we call RINOs here.

I am curious what has her hands so tied that 2 years later and the exit plan is still being debated.

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She survives but the vote doesn’t look great, hardly an endorsement

Winning this vote means that she loses the bribed DUP's support, because they hate her deal, including the Irish "backstop"
 

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I am confused why 2 years after the vote the UK is still tied to the EU. I was under the impression that she was Englands version of what we call RINOs here.

I am curious what has her hands so tied that 2 years later and the exit plan is still being debated.

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Brexit was never going to be as simple as somebody waking up one morning and waving goodbye to the EU from across the channel. All of Britain’s trade agreements and economic rights have to be renegotiated among other weighty things and all with added complexity because of the resistance emanating from Scotland and Northern Ireland.
 
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Boris wouldn't touch that toxic job if they begged him. Easier to sit on the sidelines and spout unrealistic BS.

I think the UK's least distasteful option is to take a mulligan and schedule another referendum (Hard, Soft, No) complete with the a dummies guide to Brexit. If the Brits still vote for Leave, well good on 'em, and they can say goodbye to Scotland and Northern Ireland as well.

I'm not a May fan, she wanted to be PM and she got the prize, but she can hardly be faulted alone for what was always going to be a sh*tshow.


Indyref2 is coming soon and the shambles of brexit has pushed the majority of Scots towards Independence .... because both the Tories and Red Tories are in utter chaos no leadership just division and hatred ... the UK is all but finished and the SNP & Scottish Greens will trigger a section 30 in late january ... had the vote went ahead on tuesday it would have been triggered this week ... the only option of stopping Indyref 2 is cancelling Brexit but that would lead to mass riots throughout England and Wales
 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46535739


UK Prime Minister Theresa May faces a vote of confidence in her leadership later after 48 of her Conservative MPs called for one to be held.

But a defiant Mrs May vowed to contest the vote "with everything I have got".

She warned that a new prime minister would be faced with the choice of "delaying or even stopping Brexit".

A majority of Tory MPs have publicly said they will back the PM in the vote, which runs for two hours from 18:00 GMT, but it is a secret ballot.




Disastrous few weeks for May comes to a head later this evening and if she doesn't survive it then the consequences for Brexit and the economy could be extremely negative. I'm not a huge fan Of May's but I genuinely don't envy her position and I think she got the best possible deal that we could get.

Hopefully everyone is aware of a couple of minor differences between the US and the UK here, those being:

  1. losing a vote of confidence is no big deal under the parliamentary system and doesn't necessarily trigger either elections or a constitutional crisis; and
  2. Ms. May could well weather the vote of non-confidence and STILL find herself as the ex-Prim Minister the next day and THAT would NOT trigger either an election or a constitutional crisis.; and
  3. with the shift of three votes, it would be possible for the "Conservatives" to be out of power completely and for the "Labour Party" to form a new government and EVEN THAT would not necessarily trigger either an election or a constitutional crisis.
 

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Indyref2 is coming soon and the shambles of brexit has pushed the majority of Scots towards Independence .... because both the Tories and Red Tories are in utter chaos no leadership just division and hatred ... the UK is all but finished and the SNP & Scottish Greens will trigger a section 30 in late january ... had the vote went ahead on tuesday it would have been triggered this week ... the only option of stopping Indyref 2 is cancelling Brexit but that would lead to mass riots throughout England and Wales


Scotland won’t get a sniff of a vote until this is all over.
 

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Indyref2 is coming soon and the shambles of brexit has pushed the majority of Scots towards Independence .... because both the Tories and Red Tories are in utter chaos no leadership just division and hatred ... the UK is all but finished and the SNP & Scottish Greens will trigger a section 30 in late january ... had the vote went ahead on tuesday it would have been triggered this week ... the only option of stopping Indyref 2 is cancelling Brexit but that would lead to mass riots throughout England and Wales

The SNP exists to poke England in the eye at every opportunity and to create such opportunities where otherwise lacking. If they spent as much time doing things in the interests of Scots as they do embarrassing themselves in parliament and opposing anything and everything for no reason other than the English want it then they might deserve to be taken seriously. As it is, they’re just the comedic relief of the UK.

As for mass riots...Nigel Farage would undoubtedly rabble rouse but I don’t see mass riots happening. Only 1/3rd of the UK actually voted in favor of Brexit to begin with and there’s a lot of buyers remorse out there.
 
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