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The Truth-O-Meter report card on Glenn Beck

Grim17 said:
Lmmfao. You all keep downplaying Beck and the people who like the man. In fact, I hope you all ramp it up, because the more you insult the American people, the better things will be after November.

Why don't you all attack his dead mother next... That's always a winning strategy... lololol
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You mean the way Beck claimed that Obama hates his late mother and grandmother? That kind of attack?
 
Barbbtx said:
Most people who are in the center are there because they have no core belief's. They are just kind of wishy washy. They will compromise just to get a bill passed so they can say they got something done.
Hannity's not fickle, he's a true conservative. If that's a partisan hack..ok then
LOL, you really think Beck changed when he came to Fox? Well, I guess he did. He changed back to the Beck we knew. He hated HLN and playing by their rules.
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most of those in the center have no core beliefs?? oooooooooooooooooooooookay.......hannity is an entertainer, just like beck, he is not a true news journalist, and everything he 'reports' on, is spun to the way he thinks...it is silly to think otherwise.
 
FilmFestGuy said:
I've read your numbers regarding Obama's economy and I agree with your numbers, however, I am also aware that it took Bush FIVE YEARS get unemployment anywhere close to where it was at the beginning of his first recession and that recovery takes time.
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Exactly. Rome wasn't built in a day.

And people hear what they want to hear! Pessimists want to hear Glen Beck. Optimists want to hear hope & change. Maybe I've oversimplified, but it makes sense to me.

I'd like to see somebody pick up on what I'm trying to say and make a debate-worthy thread on the subject. I think I'm on to something, here.
 
FilmFestGuy said:
I never claimed that hurt someone personally nor do I care. That was another poster. Beck has his right to do whatever he wants to do. And fools have their right to buy his books and believe his lies and conspiracy theories. It's not illegal for him to lie to people who give him money. People do it all the time. I'm not calling for the FCC to shut him down. The facts that prove that he frequently lies have been posted on this thread already. I don't need to re-post them. And it's my right to call the people who feed his machine feeble-minded; no different than the people who believed Jimmy Swaggart was a man of God. It's the exacts same syndrome that leads people to feed money to those who preach to them. Jerry Falwell got filthy ****ing rich off people like that.

I've read your numbers regarding Obama's economy and I agree with your numbers, however, I am also aware that it took Bush FIVE YEARS get unemployment anywhere close to where it was at the beginning of his first recession and that recovery takes time. I'm not a hysteric who claims that the Republic is Burning everytime something bad happens. I didn't even once cry when Bush and Republicans passed a bill I disagreed with.

I also don't need a hysteric to feed me the news. I find histrionics and those who get them riled up to be obnoxious. Again, if I want a conservative viewpoint, I'll read George Will or David Brooks. If I want to watch a pasty buffoon cry on TV, I'll watch Jimmy Swaggert or Glenn Beck - they're the same beast.
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Here are the Bush employment numbers, he inherited a recession and then had that "little" event called 9/11 so overall not a bad record compared to today. Actual employment numbers by month

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec

2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960


You certainly have the right to watch whatever you want so the question to you is, Do you believe the economy is headed in the right direction with the fact that GDP growth was down last qtr vs. the previous qtr and unemployment is up every month this year and employment down?
 
BDBoop said:
Exactly. Rome wasn't built in a day.

And people hear what they want to hear! Pessimists want to hear Glen Beck. Optimists want to hear hope & change. Maybe I've oversimplified, but it makes sense to me.

I'd like to see somebody pick up on what I'm trying to say and make a debate-worthy thread on the subject. I think I'm on to something, here.
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Rome WAS destroyed due to the similar arrogance being displayed by D.C. Politicians. Nothing wrong with being optimistic but based upon what this President is implementing that makes it hard. Do you think the country is headed in the right direction? If so based upon what?
 
Conservative said:
Rome WAS destroyed due to the similar arrogance being displayed by D.C. Politicians. Nothing wrong with being optimistic but based upon what this President is implementing that makes it hard. Do you think the country is headed in the right direction? If so based upon what?
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Rome. Wasn't. Built. In. A. Day. Please (I dare to dream) STOP changing the subject whenever you don't want to address a valid point.
 
BDBoop said:
Rome. Wasn't. Built. In. A. Day. Please (I dare to dream) STOP changing the subject whenever you don't want to address a valid point.
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When you spent over a trillion dollars of taxpayer money and get these kind of results you should be fired. Democrats will experience that in November. and Obama will experience it in 2012. This country wasn't built on the principles being promoted by Obama. Too bad history is being ignored.
 
I am amazed at the estimates of the crowed size considering that most Glen Beck fans were unable to attend. Some are suggesting he may run as VP with Palin in 2012. I guess there is still hope for this country.
 
Conservative said:
When you spent over a trillion dollars of taxpayer money and get these kind of results you should be fired. Democrats will experience that in November. and Obama will experience it in 2012. This country wasn't built on the principles being promoted by Obama. Too bad history is being ignored.
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Nope, sorry. I'm not extending anything to you that you're not willing to put out there yourself. You don't own your own, I go cross-eyed and all your words fade to fuzz.
 
SgtRock said:
I am amazed at the estimates of the crowed size considering that most Glen Beck fans were unable to attend. Some are suggesting he may run as VP with Palin in 2012. I guess there is still hope for this country.
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I think somebody drugged my coffee. I could swear you just said .... you'd be willing to hand us the election? Whoa, SuWEET!!
 
FilmFestGuy said:
Why do you feel the need to defend him so much? He's a public figure. It comes with the territory.

Get of his knob and look at him with clear eyes instead of worshiping at his altar and you might see that there isn't much there to defend.

Find one post where I get all weepy when people complain about Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann? The closest you'll get is that I will tell people to calm down about Rachel Maddow, because she generally doesn't shout and actually lets conservatives come on and defend themselves, which makes her a tad bit better than most of the gas-bag ilk - but she's still of that ilk.

I couldn't give two hoots about Beck. What I'm sick of are people like him (regardless of stripe) thinking that they're doing anything for this nation other than furthering the ever-growing divide and profiting off of it by spreading conspiracy theories, half-truths, and occasionally flat-out lies.
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I don't like people lied about and mistreated. Yes he is a public figure, all the more reason to defend him. He is trying to unite the country, not divide it. When people constantly berate him unjustly online it could hurt more than him.

If you like Olbermann, Maddow and Moore I hope you stick up for them when you think people are treating them unfairly.
If you think Beck lies, come out and prove him wrong. Did he lie about Van Jones, Wright, Ayers, Cass Susstein ?

I hope he profits a lot. The more he profits the more he helps people. Why do people want to begrudge others wealth? Is it jealousy?
 
PeteEU said:
LOL and the right keep making **** up.
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From the pics that I have seen it was a huge crowd that even liberal news outlets are estimating to be in the hundreds of thousands. Americans are not happy with the direction our country is heading and we will see a lot of incumbents voted out of office come November.
 
Barbbtx said:
I don't like people lied about and mistreated.
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Unless it's President Obama, yes? I mean, you DO have people you are perfectly willing to go there about - just not Beck.
 
pbrauer said:
PolitiFact | Beck claims universal health care is driving Massachusetts' deficit

FALSE
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Who said it was DRIVING the deficit? I said it was more expensive than promised and is driving up ER usage, both facts. It is having a negative affect on the deficit.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/10/m...-obamas-national-reform-strains-state-budget/

Then there is this, imagine that?

http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2010/07/18/firms_cancel_health_coverage/

Which apparently is coming to a location near us all.

Then there is this!

http://www.nationalreview.com/criti...y-room-visits-increase-massachusetts/avik-roy
 
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BDBoop said:
Unless it's President Obama, yes? I mean, you DO have people you are perfectly willing to go there about - just not Beck.
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No Boo, as distasteful as it is, if somebody lied about President Obama, I'd go to bat for him. In fact I'm sure I have. I just always have to take Pepto afterwards.
 
Barbbtx said:
No Boo, as distasteful as it is, if somebody lied about President Obama, I'd go to bat for him. In fact I'm sure I have. I just always have to take Pepto afterwards.
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Well then, there ya have it. Just put the shoe on the other foot, and that's how we feel about Beck.
 
PeteEU said:
LOL and the right keep making **** up.
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This from the New York Times:

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.
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Making **** up huh?

Should I expect a retraction? You're a liberal, so my guess is, you lack the integrity for a retraction.
 
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Barbbtx said:
I don't like people lied about and mistreated. Yes he is a public figure, all the more reason to defend him. He is trying to unite the country, not divide it. When people constantly berate him unjustly online it could hurt more than him.

If you like Olbermann, Maddow and Moore I hope you stick up for them when you think people are treating them unfairly.
If you think Beck lies, come out and prove him wrong. Did he lie about Van Jones, Wright, Ayers, Cass Susstein ?

I hope he profits a lot. The more he profits the more he helps people. Why do people want to begrudge others wealth? Is it jealousy?
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I don't have to stick up for public figures. It's not really my job. The man makes millions off of people who buy his schtick by exploiting them. I won't defend it. Why defend anyone in the gas-baggery industry.

He is not trying to unite the nation at all. Your failure to see that he's nothing more than an exploitation artist (they used to be called snake-oil salesman) doesn't make it true.

I want someone like Bill Gates to profit - someone who came up with a brilliant idea, manufactured a product, created jobs and wealth for many and now gives more to charity than anyone else in the US. Beck spreads conspiracy theories, half-truths, and lies so he can sell books to people who are willing to listen to his jibber-jabber and buffoonery.

I don't see how that united the nation at all. It, in fact, divides the nation. How is writing a book entitled: How to Argue with Idiots uniting the nation? You think calling everyone who disagrees with you idiots is uniting? Seriously?
 
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