The Real Modern Heritage of the Confederate Battle Flag [W:147]

[Gathomas88]

Everyone seems to only want to focus on the flags association with the Confederacy itself, and a handful of racist political groups in the 1950s and 1960s.

What they tend to forget, however...

Is the 100 years of service it saw after the Civil War as a means of honoring Southern Veterans (US Veterans by Congressional decree).

It's wide usage in the Pacific Theater of War by Southern dominated Marine and Naval companies during WW2.

During World War II some U.S. military units with Southern nicknames, or made up largely of Southerners, made the flag their unofficial emblem. The USS Columbia flew a Confederate Navy Ensign as a battle flag throughout combat in the South Pacific in World War II. This was done in honor of Columbia, the ship's namesake and the capital city of South Carolina, the first state to secede from the Union. Some soldiers carried Confederate flags into battle. After the Battle of Okinawa a Confederate flag was raised over Shuri Castle by a Marine from the self-styled "Rebel Company" (Company A of the 1st Battalion, 5th Marines).

As well as in Vietnam...

What Was the Confederate Flag Doing in Cuba, Vietnam, and Iraq?

And even in the modern military...

Oh! And let's not forget about this little doozy either.

Kind of interesting how the history of the so called "traitor flag" isn't anywhere near as simple as certain fundamentally dishonest ideologues would like to claim, innit?

 

[OrphanSlug]

The real "modern heritage"... Best oxymoron I've seen yet.

 

[Untamedrose]

terrorizing 6 year olds.... Armed Confederate supporters interrupt black child's birthday party with racial slurs, death threats

 

[Ray410]

Half the jeeps and tracked vehicles in Nam had Confederate flags on them. It's a beautiful all-American battle flag.

 

[Gathomas88]

The real "modern heritage"... Best oxymoron I've seen yet.

Well, according to historians, we've been in the "Modern Era" since the 16th Century, so not as much of one as you might think. :roll:

 

[Gathomas88]

terrorizing 6 year olds.... Armed Confederate supporters interrupt black child's birthday party with racial slurs, death threats

Crazy people going to be crazy, I suppose. :shrug:

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Half the jeeps and tracked vehicles in Nam had Confederate flags on them. It's a beautiful all-American battle flag.

It is a traitorous flag, one that was fielded by enemies of USA

 

[Gathomas88]

It is a traitorous flag, one that was fielded by enemies of USA

And proudly carried into battle by loyal US soldiers from Southern regions of the country ever since. It was even used by the husband of a current US presidential nominee for his own presidential campaign in the 1990s.

Feeling silly for your gross oversimplification yet?

 

[brothern]

And proudly carried into battle by loyal US soldiers from Southern regions of the country ever since. It was even used by the husband of a current US presidential nominee for his own presidential campaign in the 1990s.

Feeling silly for your gross oversimplification yet?

Why would you ever feel silly for putting away a loser's flag?

 

[Moot]

Words of wisdom, W. Honkey,... words of wisdom.

 

[Moot]

You tell it like it is, Dixon.

 

[Gathomas88]

Why would you ever feel silly for putting away a loser's flag?

Were the US Marines who fought, died under, and planted the flag on Okinawa being "silly?" Were the countless US soldiers who have done so in wars since?

Perhaps it's time that you simply expand your horizons a bit and realize that the "one size fits all" ideological interpretation you are attempting to forcibly impose upon the flag is your entirely subjective opinion rather than the objective fact you like to imagine.

 

[Gathomas88]

Words of wisdom, W. Honkey,... words of wisdom.

You tell it like it is, Dixon.

Opinions noted as silly, and disregarded as such.

 

[brothern]

Were the US Marines who fought, died under, and planted the flag on Okinawa being "silly." Were the countless US soldiers who have done so in wars since?

Perhaps it's time that you simply expand your horizons a bit and realize that the "one size fits all" ideological interpretation you are attempting to forcibly impose upon the flag is fundamentally invalid.

Absolute losers. Lost the war. Lost their slaves. Lost the Civil Rights fight Being a US Marine means you wear the stars and stripes, which is also called *your* flag. Not the flag of losers.

Like it's so bad, that if I ever saw a Conderate themed gravestone, it probably means you died as a 50 year old virgin.

 

[Moot]

Opinions noted as silly, and disregarded as such.

Dixon predicted you would say that. He sure has you pegged.

 

[Gathomas88]

Absolute losers. Lost the war. Lost their slaves. Lost the Civil Rights act. Being a US Marine means you wear the stars and stripes, which is also called *your* flag. Not the flag of losers.

Like it's so bad of a loser flag, that if I ever saw a Conderate themed gravestone, it probably means you died as a 50 year old virgin.

Ah! There's the "tolerance," "open mindedness," and "cultural sensitivity" for which the popular Left is so well known! :lamo

Bigotry, authoritarianism, and blatant disrespect for cultures different than your own are perfectly okay, apparently... Just so long as they happen to be targeted against a group you happen to dislike.

 

[Gathomas88]

Dixon predicted you would say that. He sure has you pegged.

Fat bearded internet guy disregarded as irrelevant.

 

[Moot]

Fat bearded internet guy disregarded as irrelevant.

Well, you're on the internet, so should we disregard you, too?

I fail to see how posting pictures of a people holding up a racist flag helps your lost cause, much. Seems pretty irrelevant and should be disregarded because it doesn't diminish or negate what that flag really represents one tiny bit.

 

[brothern]

Ah! There's the "tolerance," "open mindedness," and "cultural sensitivity" for which the popular Left is so well known! :lamo

Bigotry, authoritarianism, and blatant disrespect for cultures different than your own are perfectly okay, apparently... Just so long as they happen to be targeted against a group you happen to dislike.

Me? Intolerant of racists? No, never. You Confederate lovers need our compassion. Love. Government assistance. Tax breaks. Where else would you get the money to fix your teeth?

 

[blaxshep]

Interesting to see the Clinton Gore Rebel Flag campaign. I wonder how many liberals that want everything ever associated with the rebel flag to be cast aside, destroyed or even dug up from graves, will still vote for Hillary. I'll bet it's close to all of them.

 

[Gathomas88]

Well, you're on the internet, so should we disregard you, too?

I fail to see how posting pictures of a people holding up a racist flag helps your lost cause, much. Seems pretty irrelevant and should be disregarded because it doesn't diminish or negate what that flag really represents one tiny bit.

Just stating the facts as they presently exist, ma'am.

Me? Intolerant of racists? No, never. You Confederate lovers need our compassion. Love. Government assistance. Tax breaks. Where else would you get the money to fix your teeth?

As you proceed to double down on the self-righteous bigotry and negative stereotyping. :lamo

You're aware that what you're actually engaging in here is rather blatant (and, frankly, kind of racist) Classism, right? You're attempting to destroy the culture of lower income whites from a certain part of the country, basically for no other reason than that you've convinced yourself that you're somehow inherently "superior" to them, based off a bunch of negative stereotypes with little basis in actually reality. In the process, you've even resorted to mocking generations of veterans over something completely trivial.

I guess that's okay though, because neither of those groups are on your "approved victims" list. :roll:

 

[Henrin]

Words of wisdom, W. Honkey,... words of wisdom.

I wonder when he will get enough wisdom to learn how to eat properly or to exercise regularly?

 

[JumpinJack]

Everyone seems to only want to focus on the flags association with the Confederacy itself, and a handful of racist political groups in the 1950s and 1960s.

What they tend to forget, however...

Is the 100 years of service it saw after the Civil War as a means of honoring Southern Veterans (US Veterans by Congressional decree).

It's wide usage in the Pacific Theater of War by Southern dominated Marine and Naval companies during WW2.

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As well as in Vietnam...

What Was the Confederate Flag Doing in Cuba, Vietnam, and Iraq?

And even in the modern military...

Oh! And let's not forget about this little doozy either.

Kind of interesting how the history of the so called "traitor flag" isn't anywhere near as simple as certain fundamentally dishonest ideologues would like to claim, innit?

That's some good photoshopping.

 

[Gathomas88]

That's some good photoshopping.

It's actually all legitimate. Nice denial though.

 

[Moot]

I wonder when he will get enough wisdom to learn how to eat properly or to exercise regularly?

Isn't eating food swimming in butter a southern cuisine thing?