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The Media’s Shameful Hunter Biden Abdication

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The Baizuo media has no integrity but until a large enough group of people reject them entirely, it will continue.

And its not just NPR...
Look at what 60 minutes just did to Florida's governor and What the NYT is doing to Gaetz
You're doing such a good job parroting CCP talking points. I hope you're getting a bonus!

And it is shameful "the media" are critical of right wingers. Why, the founders would roll over in their graves, except "the media" in their time was if anything far more biased, so maybe not.

One point of having a free press is for the press to be critical of political figures and government. You seem to think it's unfair. I didn't watch the 60 Minutes piece, but if you did you'll first need to point out something false or at least highly misleading in their piece, or else it's what the media are supposed to do - hold politicians accountable. That show has been running stories highly critical of political figures for DECADES.

And what's the NYT "doing to Gaetz" that it shouldn't?
 
You're doing such a good job parroting CCP talking points. I hope you're getting a bonus!

And it is shameful "the media" are critical of right wingers. Why, the founders would roll over in their graves, except "the media" in their time was if anything far more biased, so maybe not.

One point of having a free press is for the press to be critical of political figures and government. You seem to think it's unfair. I didn't watch the 60 Minutes piece, but if you did you'll first need to point out something false or at least highly misleading in their piece, or else it's what the media are supposed to do - hold politicians accountable. That show has been running stories highly critical of political figures for DECADES.

And what's the NYT "doing to Gaetz" that it shouldn't?
 
They shouldn't.

But I think they should care about a sitting United States Vice President inserting himself into a Ukrainian legal matter when he, the Vice President, has a clear conflict of interest. I think it should also pique their curiosity that there has been an email published -- an email the Bidens have not claimed is fake -- where a senior executive working at a company owned by the target of that investigation thanks Hunter Biden for a meeting with that same Vice President.

More recently, as a former VP and likely next President, we have candidate Joe Biden claiming he has never been involved in his son's business dealings and "never accepted a penny" from China; yet this same cache of emails appear to contain negotiations looking to cut ol' Joe in for 10%.

Beyond the "right wing tabloid," three individuals have gone on the record saying either the messages published are real or asserting that Hunter Biden is the one who dropped off those laptops.

Ya, there's a story here.
Three individuals? I'll wait for the DoJ to move this further. Since AG Barr didn't find much, what's your complaint?
 
The question is why should anyone care?
Maybe we should be investigating all of Ivanka's deals with China while her dad was President?
Every highroller, political or business, have children who benefit of their parent's names, so this is NOT news worthy.
THE ONLY REASON you want it to be news worthy is because:
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Irrelevant.
 
One thing is for certain, even if the emails are found to be authentic, the liberals here will not care.
 
And a good take from Jonathan Turley published recently in The Hill

News anchor Lester Holt recently declared that “it has become clearer that fairness is overrated,” adding that “the idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in.” Fortunately for Hunter Biden, that world is the one in which he lives and thrives. In interviews about his memoir “Beautiful Things,” some reporters either misstate the facts of his prior scandals or ignore certain leads, including potential evidence of a federal crime.
Facts, like fairness, appear overrated to much of the media today. Hunter spent the last few months evading questions, notably before the election, when an abandoned laptop apparently belonging to him was found to have hundreds of embarrassing photos and emails showing drug abuse and raw influence peddling. He is also said to be under investigation for possible federal tax violations linked to his foreign dealings.
Yet one of the “beautiful things” in his life is a media that puts a blackout on the laptop story and wraps him and his father in a protective press cocoon. That was evident in an interview by National Public Radio. The article by Ron Elving stated that the laptop story was “discredited” by American intelligence and investigations by news outlets. That is entirely and demonstrably false. National Public Radio issued a correction that news outlets “cast doubt on the credibility” of the laptop story.

There was, of course, an easy way to confirm the facts, rather than citing other news outlets which failed to pursue the story. Elving was talking to Hunter, so why not simply ask him if the laptop was his? CBS News did ask him that and received a bizarre answer that it might or might not be his. Hunter said, “There could be a laptop out there that was stolen from me. It could be that I was hacked. It could be that it was Russian intelligence.” Or perhaps it could be an initial attack by an alien technology.
Hunter denies any knowledge of the authenticity of the laptop months after its existence was disclosed by the New York Post and even longer since it was seized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. ...
Efforts to look into that issue should include additional probes. “How can you remember details from your period of addiction going back 20 years, detailed in your book, but you cannot remember this laptop?” The media could have put it another way. “Even if you cannot remember your own laptop, you have seen the pictures and emails. Are those authentic?” But instead the media showed the flag and then left the field.
The problem is that Hunter has confirmed facts which could implicate him not just in a federal crime but in the very crime the administration is now making a priority as a policy matter ...


Anyone who says there isn't a left-wing bias in most of the country's mass media simply has no idea what they're talking about (or they're lying to you).
 
A good quote from @NatMorton 's article:
Yet none of this matters when you are in the business of shaping rather than reporting news. Even a leading journalism professor with Stanford University has declared that journalism now needs to “free itself from this notion of objectivity to develop a sense of social justice.” Once free from notions of fairness or objectivity, reporters are at liberty to ignore news in favor of a narrative. Things can be true but misleading.

"...in the business of shaping rather than reporting news."

This is much of my issue with the media today, and not just from the left. It's as though extremists have infiltrated journalism and replaced it with dueling narratives.

I'd much rather live in a society where credible accusations are investigated thoroughly, and false allegations are thoroughly denounced.

It would be great if we can disagree on policy, but agree on integrity, moral intent, and legality. I fully support charging and convicting all criminal activity - left, center, and right.
 
Even if Hunter Biden's emails ultimately turn out to be a non-issue, what is unquestionably an issue and worthy of discussion is much of the media's abject bias in its attempts to make it a non-story from the very beginning. This, quite simply, is not what a free press is meant to do, and the National Review is spot on with this editorial.

Nonsense
 

So you list all of those links, but only ONE of them pre-dates the election. Did you notice that?

Here's an article from Snopes that is revealing.

The hard drive had pictures of Hunter naked, unconscious with a crack pipe in his mouth, evidence of Hunter spending literally thousands of dollars in single nights on porn sites and in strip clubs, and this is their lead:

"With just over two weeks to go until the 2020 U.S. presidential election, the New York Post published a story that was lauded by right-leaning media and political figures as a “bombshell” and criticized by others as disinformation resurfacing an old method of political attack."

This is laughable and further evidence of the propagandistic methods of our propagandistic press.

I wonder, and you should, too, if we would have EVER known about this lap top if the shop owner who was in fear for his life had just given it to the FBI.

 
Partisan BS.
WHOA!
and you aren't partisan?
SAY WHAT?
we are all partisan in here, or should I say, YOU all are partisan in here, which is why the US is such a mess.
YOU go on and on and on and on about Hunter Biden, but ignore that fact Trump is also under investigation, so YOU down south of the border all play the same game: let's find fault with your guy but defend my guy.
Sad really.
 
So you list all of those links, but only ONE of them pre-dates the election. Did you notice that?

That was intentional. It shows that the story in the OP most definitely has not been "spiked" by the mainstream media. I added one that predates the election to show that the politically motivated Hunter Biden email narrative also was not spiked before the election. The media is protecting no one and nothing but their bottom line. Actual scandals will always get more media attention than nonexistent scandals manufactured by a party for political gain.
 
WHOA!
and you aren't partisan?
SAY WHAT?
we are all partisan in here, or should I say, YOU all are partisan in here, which is why the US is such a mess.
YOU go on and on and on and on about Hunter Biden, but ignore that fact Trump is also under investigation, so YOU down south of the border all play the same game: let's find fault with your guy but defend my guy.
Sad really.
I am far more objective that most here.
 
We are not well served by our mass media. They adhere to a political agenda, and just because it's one that aligns well with yours you think it's all okay. That is a foolish belief.

This is the part they don't understand, or are unwilling to acknowledge. If the tables were turned, they would be screaming about nazi dictators.

But I'm beginning to believe they will support nazi dictators as long as they themselves remain the favored political class.
 
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