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The me-first, screw everyone else crowd

Then how do you explain why you keep arguing for the things that lead to job loss?

I can't answer that, it depends on the sector.

I'm sure it does sound like greed to you, because you aren't factoring in a lower cost of living in other countries, making the "cheap wage" a reasonable one in a place with less regulation and governmental regulation. Oh, and by the way, "fair wages" don't exist as your side likes to argue, it's emotional rhetoric(again, and I'm not surprised:roll:) the only fair wage is one agreed to by the employer and employee.

No, dude, and I mean this in all seriousness, are you paying attention or just spitting talking points? A medium of exchange is universally tradable commodities used to back currency, it is not money in circulation. The rest of your point then becomes invalidated by the intitial premise.
That has less to do with it than how much is initially put into circulation or printed to begin with, I have already covered this.
And again, you haven't countered anything I've said, just bitched about the outcome.

Which is why I am trying to help educate the people who caused the problem, anything else is the direct fault of the elected class who continue to pass the laws and those who vote them in.

I don't know why you keep insisting on adding the american qualifier to the equation, we are in a global market, so you need to expand and drop the qualifiers.
Laugh all you want, you'd be wrong, 8%, which is what their profit margins showed, IS STANDARD, sorry if you don't understand that percentage of profit minus expenses is how you determine what percentage of profit you need to stay afloat, btw, donut companies make over 12% profit margins.
Again, you are assuming I am taking a side, if we are talking about illegal trade as an economic factor I could care less and it still follows the laws of economics, Oh, and it doesn't "disrupt the flow of American economics" as you like to assume, black market participants make alot of money selling the illegal products and they buy legal ones, so the market still flows quite well. if we are talking about a matter of law then it isn't my business as I am not a legal authority or a victim, you fit what I said to make your irrelevant example fit your argument, nice try, but it's still a huge fail.

Labor or American workers don't create job loss outsourceing creates job loss that is done by corporations.

I thought I mentioned the sector Manufacturing making American auto parts to put in American cars is manufacturing.

I don't live in "other countries" I live in America.
If American workers do not have the right of a fair wage America might just as well be a Communist country or run by a dictator.

Dude? Sorry pal you got the wrong generation.
Everybody knows there is less money in circulation today has been since the end of 2005.
Tell me how good is that working out for America and it's people?
You can't print money and call it backing.
As far as tradable commonoties American exports American imports which is more ?

Educate ? What the old chicken and egg routine, playing the blame game?

Simple, outsource a little no problem, outsource a huge amount we got a problem.
When I say we I mean labor and corporations and government .
Cause 40,000 people looses their jobs and you got a chance of 20,000 getting their job back the rest go to unemployment.
That's 20.000 less tax dollars , 20,000 less consumer prospects,no sales productionwill go down stocks will go down investors will be asking questions.
While would be taxpayers are looking for a job that pays a wage they can live on Government prints more money.

I know we are in a global market and we are losing to other nations on sales in the global market, cause cheap labor is not going to buy American products.
Americans that have lost their jobs can't, and judgeing by the export import trade other countries won't.

STANDARD? I KNOW WHAT PRICE GOUGING IS AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP MORE THAN ONCE SINCE 2000.
I also know that when demand is low prices tend to get cheaper not higher.

It is you who are assuming that black market participants make a lot of money selling illegal products and assuming they will buy legal products from American corporations, or even buy legal products at all maybe the black market participant uses the lot of money he made for supporting certain foreign groups unfriendly to America.

I don't know about you but I'm more worried about America than the flow of the market..
Take away average Americans you would still have the flow of the market , but it would be flowing East the corporations, the consumers, the money, right along with the jobs.
 
Labor or American workers don't create job loss outsourceing creates job loss that is done by corporations.

I thought I mentioned the sector Manufacturing making American auto parts to put in American cars is manufacturing.

I don't live in "other countries" I live in America.
If American workers do not have the right of a fair wage America might just as well be a Communist country or run by a dictator.

Dude? Sorry pal you got the wrong generation.
Everybody knows there is less money in circulation today has been since the end of 2005.
Tell me how good is that working out for America and it's people?
You can't print money and call it backing.
As far as tradable commonoties American exports American imports which is more ?

Educate ? What the old chicken and egg routine, playing the blame game?

Simple, outsource a little no problem, outsource a huge amount we got a problem.
When I say we I mean labor and corporations and government .
Cause 40,000 people looses their jobs and you got a chance of 20,000 getting their job back the rest go to unemployment.
That's 20.000 less tax dollars , 20,000 less consumer prospects,no sales productionwill go down stocks will go down investors will be asking questions.
While would be taxpayers are looking for a job that pays a wage they can live on Government prints more money.

I know we are in a global market and we are losing to other nations on sales in the global market, cause cheap labor is not going to buy American products.
Americans that have lost their jobs can't, and judgeing by the export import trade other countries won't.

STANDARD? I KNOW WHAT PRICE GOUGING IS AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP MORE THAN ONCE SINCE 2000.
I also know that when demand is low prices tend to get cheaper not higher.

It is you who are assuming that black market participants make a lot of money selling illegal products and assuming they will buy legal products from American corporations, or even buy legal products at all maybe the black market participant uses the lot of money he made for supporting certain foreign groups unfriendly to America.

I don't know about you but I'm more worried about America than the flow of the market..
Take away average Americans you would still have the flow of the market , but it would be flowing East the corporations, the consumers, the money, right along with the jobs.
You keep repeating incorrect, I am not repeating myself. Good bye.
 
You keep repeating incorrect, I am not repeating myself. Good bye.

No prob I'm used to farewells like, surplus, factorys, lifestyles,tax money, a stable budget?:2wave:

BYE
 
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wow with all the outsourcing and lost manufacting jobs what has happened to american Manufacturing?

US Remains World’s Leading Manufacturer | The Big Picture

:doh OMG we are still the largest :doh

time to get a new bone to chew
Don't worry, I was just exposing the talking points for what they were on the economics side of that, but there will be some upcoming losses if things aren't changed politically, but then again, I don't get hurt either way by a loss of that type of job and don't vote for the job killing type of candidate, so......c'est la vie.
 
Don't worry, I was just exposing the talking points for what they were on the economics side of that, but there will be some upcoming losses if things aren't changed politically, but then again, I don't get hurt either way by a loss of that type of job and don't vote for the job killing type of candidate, so......c'est la vie.
Funny AIG employees said they wouldn't get hurt,as did telephone salesman.
Bank tellers and computer programers said the same as did the auto companies. oh well c'est la vie.
 
wtf are you babbling

Simple America may be the leading manufacturer.
But the majority of Americans are not manufactureing .
American manufactureing is done by cheap foreign labor.
So actually cheap foreign labor is the number 1 manufacturer.
 
wtf are you babbling
If you wanted to read back, which I don't advise, you'd see he's a fan of adding to existing regulation. You'd also see that he doesn't understand that his stance is what's causing the very things he bitches about.
 
If you wanted to read back, which I don't advise, you'd see he's a fan of adding to existing regulation. You'd also see that he doesn't understand that his stance is what's causing the very things he bitches about.

Well, ya got me there bitching about loss jobs and the current American economy.umm?

What you gonna do tell me that the American economy is strong.

UHH, I think I heard that before from other prominent Republicans.
 
Simple America may be the leading manufacturer.
But the majority of Americans are not manufactureing .
American manufactureing is done by cheap foreign labor.
So actually cheap foreign labor is the number 1 manufacturer.

oh so you want to send the rest of the world into poverty and keep manufacturing in america. gotcha.

America First :july_4th::2party::ind::2usflag:

you sir are a True Patriot :doh
 
I am also very glad I am not some knuckle dragging lower middle class manufacturer.

Now, owning a manufactuing plant sounds nice
 
Well, ya got me there bitching about loss jobs and the current American economy.umm?

What you gonna do tell me that the American economy is strong.

UHH, I think I heard that before from other prominent Republicans.
I bolded what you got right.
 
:applaud well done sir :applaud well done indeed
He made it too easy. That was one of the best sarcasm fails I could have ever hoped for.:mrgreen:
 
oh so you want to send the rest of the world into poverty and keep manufacturing in america. gotcha.

America First :july_4th::2party::ind::2usflag:

you sir are a True Patriot :doh

If American consumers don't buy the rest of the world looses money anyway.
No jobs no American consumers no American consumers no sale.

You sir are a true follower of the CEO'S of America.

Perhaps you should start a club?
 
I am also very glad I am not some knuckle dragging lower middle class manufacturer.

Now, owning a manufactuing plant sounds nice

WALL st.
OCT 29TH 1929 I'm so glad I notlike poor working class and have all these nice things.
Nov. 5th 1929 LOST EVERYTHING WELCOME TO THE STREETS.

true story.
 
He made it too easy. That was one of the best sarcasm fails I could have ever hoped for.:mrgreen:

Well I can see you boys want to be alone so I'll catch ya tommorow.

Oh I meant be alone to discuss stuff not like WELL?
 
Funny I bolded in every post things you got right.

Well I haven't really had to use my bolded yet but here's hopeing
Dude, seriously, recycled emotional talking points as economics, recycled jokes, no immediate working knowledge displayed about the basics of economics, much less how to apply them, and no facts. You managed to cover hackery quite well in this thread. Like I have been saying, when you bring something debate worthy, we'll talk, until then, you will remain irrelevant to the discussion between DeeJay and myself, so do stop butting in please. :cool:
 
Dude, seriously, recycled emotional talking points as economics, recycled jokes, no immediate working knowledge displayed about the basics of economics, much less how to apply them, and no facts. You managed to cover hackery quite well in this thread. Like I have been saying, when you bring something debate worthy, we'll talk, until then, you will remain irrelevant to the discussion between DeeJay and myself, so do stop butting in please. :cool:

No prob I understand it's best have somebody that agrees with you in a debate.
I hope you and whats his name is happy together.

PEACE OUT
 
No prob I understand it's best have somebody that agrees with you in a debate.
I hope you and whats his name is happy together.

PEACE OUT
I see, we have a "last word" debater here. presluc, I know you think getting the last word in shows victory in your mind, but the fact is that after you lose a debate, the thing to do is concede, not keep getting your teeth kicked in. Tell you what.....I'll give you an out, the facts are not on your side, economic law is not on your side, the debate is not on your side, but, since I am tired of this, go ahead and take your little parting shot and feel better about yourself, but after you walk away, go and study economic law, because this was too easy.
 
I see, we have a "last word" debater here. presluc, I know you think getting the last word in shows victory in your mind, but the fact is that after you lose a debate, the thing to do is concede, not keep getting your teeth kicked in. Tell you what.....I'll give you an out, the facts are not on your side, economic law is not on your side, the debate is not on your side, but, since I am tired of this, go ahead and take your little parting shot and feel better about yourself, but after you walk away, go and study economic law, because this was too easy.

"You will remain irrelevant to the discussion between DeeJay and myself "

Your words right?

What now are you going to "discuss" how I should bow out of your "discussion"?

Gees, and I thought this was a DEBATE FORUM???

Since I'm irrelevant anyway, I say you and what's his name can continue this thread shaking your heads up and down saying "yes you're right" a lot and be happy .

That's what you want so what's wrong with that? BE HAPPY!

PEACE OUT.
 
See DeeJay, I called it. We have a "last word debater", pathetic huh.:rofl
 
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