The Little Mermaid can't be Black .....

[Yes_Minister]

These were schools that existed in the 19th and early 20th century when mortality, especially in rural areas, was much higher.

In addition it wasn’t just students who were buried, but members of local communities surrounding. Stop being silly

Really, 3000 children died in schools in America and Canada?

How many Indigenous children died in Canada’s residential schools? - NOW Toronto

The official toll is 3,213, but there was no policy for the burial of children until seven decades after the schools were first established

nowtoronto.com

That's a big body count.

Also, most people who went to those things think there were nightmarish:

https://legacyofhope.ca/wherearethechildren/

There was torture and rape at residential schools too.

You being fine with cultural genocide against natives and being mad at black Ariel is warped. It's the most touch-of-touch thing elitist I have seen on these boards. Crying about first-world problems and pop culture nonsense, while defending a program that killed real people.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I keep hearing the argument that The Little Mermaid was written to a particular gentleman due to unrequited love, but no one can provide actual proof of this. “But what about the letters!”! Okay, great! Give me a translation that supports your claim. I have text from a letter that he kept around his neck until the day he died—from a woman—one he professed his love for, even proposed to, a proposal that was rejected. How do they know his unrequited love for her wasn’t the inspiration for the story? Point of fact, they don’t. It’s just speculation presented as fact.

They do this all the time. Like gay activists in Canada claim that Algonquin Indians were pretty gay and even invented a term “two spirit” to describe this in 1991. They made this fake thing so mainstream that King of the Betas Trudeau himself gave a groveling apology to this non existent thing for Canadian oppression of them.
Like Mormon Proxy baptism for the dead they believe they can make you gay after death with magical incantations

 

[Yes_Minister]

They do this all the time. Like gay activists in Canada claim that Algonquin Indians were pretty gay and even invented a term “two spirit” to describe this in 1991. They made this fake thing so mainstream that King of the Betas Trudeau himself gave a groveling apology to this non existent thing for Canadian oppression of them.
Like Mormon Proxy baptism for the dead they believe they can make you gay after death with magical incantations

Didn't Der Fuhrer think gay people were degenerates and enemies of the state?

Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Really, 3000 children died in schools in America and Canada?

How many Indigenous children died in Canada’s residential schools? - NOW Toronto

The official toll is 3,213, but there was no policy for the burial of children until seven decades after the schools were first established

nowtoronto.com

That's a big body count.

Also, most people who went to those things think there were nightmarish:

https://legacyofhope.ca/wherearethechildren/

There was torture and rape at residential schools too.

You being fine with cultural genocide against natives and being mad at black Ariel is warped. It's the most touch-of-touch thing elitist I have seen on these boards. Crying about first-world problems and pop culture nonsense, while defending a program that killed real people.

From 1870 to 1920 in residential school environments? I’m willing to bet far more white children of that era died then 3000. I am old stock Washingtonian, I grew up next to the cemetery all my Norwegian emigrant ancestors are buried in, you can walk the cemetery and from 1880 to 1930 there’s a large number of children under the age of 10 buried there. Maybe because you’re a modernist who hates the elderly you never talked to those who remembered the great depression and the generation before that, childhood mortality was the norm and anyone who grew up in a large family in that time lost at least 1 and probably more siblings in childhood.

Sexual abuse, while tragic, needs to be contextualizad in the context that society didn’t have the same tools for identifying predators and the same mechanisms for proving abuse when alleged. Sexual abuse occurred in the most prestigious public boarding schools in England too. If you read Robert Grave’s memoirs he talks about sodomy and sexual predation at Charterhouse. So this is not a unique oppression of Indians

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Didn't Der Fuhrer think gay people were degenerates and enemies of the state?

Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Did he? This is your expertise.

 

[Superfly]

Assuming this was true, which given that the left will claim long dead people as part of a sexualized community regardless of what they would’ve thought about it, is a bit of a stretch, this only proves the story has gay themes and not that it’s about a black mermaid

So you’d be ok with a gay mermaid, but not a black one?

 

[Yes_Minister]

From 1870 to 1920 in residential school environments? I’m willing to bet far more white children of that era died then 3000. I am old stock Washingtonian, I grew up next to the cemetery all my Norwegian emigrant ancestors are buried in, you can walk the cemetery and from 1880 to 1930 there’s a large number of children under the age of 10 buried there. Maybe because you’re a modernist who hates the elderly you never talked to those who remembered the great depression and the generation before that, childhood mortality was the norm and anyone who grew up in a large family in that time lost at least 1 and probably more siblings in childhood.

Prove it, prove that 3000 children died at school in nonresidential schools. Also, children died in these schools in the 1960s:

The Names of All 202 Children Known to Have Died in Vancouver Island Residential Schools

Right up to the 1980s, Islanders lived alongside institutions that subjected Indigenous children to beatings, starvation, sexual abuse and even human experimentation

www.capitaldaily.ca

Not to mention all the kids who committed suicide after getting raped by the teachers.

And you are comparing this horror show to you being mad over a casting decision in a movie. That is vile.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Prove it, prove that 3000 children died at school in nonresidential schools. Also, children died in these schools in the 1960s:

The Names of All 202 Children Known to Have Died in Vancouver Island Residential Schools

Right up to the 1980s, Islanders lived alongside institutions that subjected Indigenous children to beatings, starvation, sexual abuse and even human experimentation

www.capitaldaily.ca

Not to mention all the kids who committed suicide after getting raped by the teachers.

And you are comparing this horror show to you being mad over a casting decision in a movie. That is vile.

Sexual abuse, while tragic, needs to be contextualizad in the context that society didn’t have the same tools for identifying predators and the same mechanisms for proving abuse when alleged. Sexual abuse occurred in the most prestigious public boarding schools in England too. If you read Robert Grave’s memoirs he talks about sodomy and sexual predation at Charterhouse. So this is not a unique oppression of Indians

So now you’re down to 202 from 3000?

 

[Ahlevah]

And how do you know the majority of consumers are against this change?

I don’t. The best sentiment indicator we have at the moment is the YouTube “Like, Dislike” feature. We’ll get a better idea of popular sentiment from box office results and from ratings from websites like IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes once the movie is released.

The alt-right complained about him.

Dude, **** the Alt Right. They don’t deserve the time of day.

And we can't give more non-white actors roles now? We are not just talking about movies from 60 or 70 years ago. Last Airbender, Lone Ranger, Ghost in the Shell, Gods of Egypt, and Aloha, are all from the last decade. I don't see right-wingers freaking out over that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film

It’s a free country. Content will be produced and voted upon in the marketplace of ideas. Looks to me like The Last Airbender and Ghost in the Shell were critical and audience flops, were they not? I haven’t seen either movie. But should we have quotas or use the arts and entertainment as a political power play? I hope not.

 

[Yes_Minister]

Did he? This is your expertise.

Pick up a history book or watch a video from the Holocaust museum.



From someone who claims to love culture so much, you seem to know little of history.

 

[Yes_Minister]

Sexual abuse, while tragic, needs to be contextualizad in the context that society didn’t have the same tools for identifying predators and the same mechanisms for proving abuse when alleged. Sexual abuse occurred in the most prestigious public boarding schools in England too. If you read Robert Grave’s memoirs he talks about sodomy and sexual predation at Charterhouse. So this is not a unique oppression of Indians

So now you’re down to 202 from 3000?

202 is at one school, 3000 is the number from all schools.

How many people in those schools described them as a nightmare, not people from the 1920s, but people who are alive today? You constantly whine about white Christians being under assault because Ariel is black or some gay couple was on TV last night, but you will support actively destroying native culture for being "inferior".

 

[Ahlevah]

So you’d be ok with a gay mermaid, but not a black one?

Yeah, put a lesbian Ariel in the plot line and see how that goes with Mommy and Daddy. Make her strong, and independent! Give her armor and a sword, like Galadriel and Jarl Haarkon! Who needs men!

 

[EMNofSeattle]

202 is at one school, 3000 is the number from all schools.

How many people in those schools described them as a nightmare, not people from the 1920s, but people who are alive today? You constantly whine about white Christians being under assault because Ariel is black or some gay couple was on TV last night, but you will support actively destroying native culture for being "inferior".

I didn’t support destroying native culture, at least not directly. Native life was always going to change. A continent as rich as the Americas was never going to be left as some national park for pre-industrial people to live inefficient lifestyles on.

This is just being a grown up. You, along with people who make up a false narrative of what the boarding schools were, never seem to explain what you believe should’ve happened. You as a Canadian can give your house for free to an Indian if you feel ashamed of your country.

 

[Yes_Minister]

I didn’t support destroying native culture, at least not directly. Native life was always going to change. A continent as rich as the Americas was never going to be left as some national park for pre-industrial people to live inefficient lifestyles on.

That's backpeddling from that thread I quote I from.

This is just being a grown up. You, along with people who make up a false narrative of what the boarding schools were, never seem to explain what you believe should’ve happened. You as a Canadian can give your house for free to an Indian if you feel ashamed of your country.

I rent.

Anyway, since this is morally repulsive and I made my point about you being hypocrite, let see if you are also hypocrite on another level, do you support whitewashed films?

Whitewashing in film - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you complain when films are whitewashed?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

 

[EMNofSeattle]

That's backpeddling from that thread I quote I from.

No, it’s not. But you can keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. You only keep proving my original point that you care about this greatly and thus this “why do you care” argument is in bad faith

I rent.

You can give your lease to someone and pay all their bills.

Anyway, since this is morally repulsive

Yes, your selective hatred is morally repulsive

and I made my point about you being hypocrite, let see if you are also hypocrite on another level, do you support whitewashed films?

Whitewashing in film - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you complain when films are whitewashed?

Do you support films which are whitewashed?

 

[Hamish Howl]

Your posts on that thread dude, do I have quote them directly?


You really respect native culture eh?

Burn of the day.

 

[forn]

The little mermaid is a fictional character, she can be black, purple, polka-dotted, or made of wood.

I've heard that the Dutch are somewhat protective of their fairy tale. That said, I couldn't care less what color she is.
In fact, I say they should fire everyone in Hollywood and replace them ALL with black actors, directors, etc. Then they can really feel like they've accomplished something.

 

[Yes_Minister]

No, it’s not. But you can keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. You only keep proving my original point that you care about this greatly and thus this “why do you care” argument is in bad faith

Really, you said the British conquering native people gave then the right to divorce them from their culture. Now you are saying that is what you are not supporting that. Hypocrite.

You can give your lease to someone and pay all their bills.

And you think that will magically make everything better? One person doing that solves nothing and I am not going live under a bridge when the issue is systematic not individuals. I could not make rent payments if I have no place to stay, especially since I work from home and then the tentants would kicked out if they cannot pay for it, what would do? Does stop oil companies from putting pipelines into native lands? There are better ways to achieve that gives better outcomes to everyone:

Landback

landback.org

What is Land Back? A Settler FAQ

Settlers have a lot of questions about Land Back: What does it mean? Who will the land be given back to? How will it be governed? Will settlers be forced to leave the continent? Brooks Arcand-Paul and Nickita Longman help clear up some of the frequently asked questions about the Land Back movement.

briarpatchmagazine.com

I don't believe personal sacrifices that don't change anything, it's like demanding everyone use paper straws instead of punishing the actual 100 companies that are destroying the planet. That is virtue singaling.

I have no problem supporting this movement, giving native people more decision making in Canada.

If my landlord was native rather than white, I wouldn't complain.

Native people are creating places where the poor of all races can live and I have no problem with repatriations for Native people. Not everything has to be a zero sum game.

Yes, your selective hatred is morally repulsive

Your hypocrisy is vile.

Do you support films which are whitewashed?

I didn't see Last Airbender and Ghost in the Shell and did not agree with their casting decisions, did you complain about those films?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Really, you said the British conquering native people gave then the right to divorce them from their culture. Now you are saying that is what you are not supporting that. Hypocrite.

If that were true as you wrote it, it would not be hypocrisy.

And you think that will magically make everything better? One person doing that solves nothing and I am not going live under a bridge when the issue is systematic not individuals.

You mean the system established benefits you immensely and you only support changes to the extent YOU don’t have to pay for them.

Which is a normal feeling, just don’t play the smug moral superiority.

I could not make rent payments if I have no place to stay, especially since I work from home and then the tentants would kicked out if they cannot pay for it, what would do? There are better ways to achieve that gives better outcomes to everyone:

Like imposing socialism on everyone and causing mass starvation and human misery!

It’s funny because in Chile they play this same scam with the Mapuche and then in their recent commie constitution referendum more Mapuche voted against it then European Chileans. The Indians don’t want socialism nor a return to living in preindustrial tribes
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Landback

landback.org

What is Land Back? A Settler FAQ

Settlers have a lot of questions about Land Back: What does it mean? Who will the land be given back to? How will it be governed? Will settlers be forced to leave the continent? Brooks Arcand-Paul and Nickita Longman help clear up some of the frequently asked questions about the Land Back movement.

briarpatchmagazine.com

Lol, this has nothing to do with Canada which is what the topic of that thread is, and incidentally no there will be no commie takeovers of Mount Rushmore in America.

I have no problem supporting this movement, giving native people more decision making in Canada.

Your link had nothing to do with Canada.

If my landlord was native rather than white, I wouldn't complain.

Well good for you.

Native people are creating places where the poor of all races can live

Uhhh ok I think that sounds like a load of nonsense.

and I have no problem with repatriations for Native people. Not everything has to be a zero sum game.



Your hypocrisy is vile.


I didn't see Last Airbender and Ghost in the Shell and did not agree with their casting decisions, did you complain about those films?

Good for you

 

[Yes_Minister]

If that were true as you wrote it, it would not be hypocrisy.

I quoted you directly and now you are using slick Willie tricks to weasel out. I am not quoting you again.

You mean the system established benefits you immensely and you only support changes to the extent YOU don’t have to pay for them.

I am willing to pay higher taxes for it. Everyone paying little is better than a few paying everything.

Which is a normal feeling, just don’t play the smug moral superiority.

At least I am trying, I didn't choose this system and yes I do benefit from it. Changing things isn't easy and yes, everyone has their limits, no one saying all non natives must give up their houses to native people. I do think we can share the land.

You just native culture like its inferior and want to punish them for not being Christian.

Like imposing socialism on everyone and causing mass starvation and human misery!

Really, why are corporations better than co-ops?

It’s funny because in Chile they play this same scam with the Mapuche and then in their recent commie constitution referendum more Mapuche voted against it then European Chileans. The Indians don’t want socialism nor a return to living in preindustrial tribes

Fine, as long as they make the choice.

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Lol, this has nothing to do with Canada which is what the topic of that thread is, and incidentally no there will be no commie takeovers of Mount Rushmore in America.

Actually the topic of the thread is you crying over black mermaids.

Your link had nothing to do with Canada.

Well good for you.

Uhhh ok I think that sounds like a load of nonsense.

Good for you

So did you complain about those films or were you fine with them?

 

[Superfly]

Yeah, put a lesbian Ariel in the plot line and see how that goes with Mommy and Daddy. Make her strong, and independent! Give her armor and a sword, like Galadriel and Jarl Haarkon! Who needs men!

The comment wasn’t directed at you, but apparently, you only want white, heterosexual mermaids.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds? That we are assigning race and gender to a mythical character?

Who gives a ****?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I quoted you directly and now you are using slick Willie tricks to weasel out. I am not quoting you again.

No, your claims about what I wrote are not hypocrisy definitionally. For growing up in Canada you don’t seem well educated in English, are you from Quebec?

I am willing to pay higher taxes for it. Everyone paying little is better than a few paying everything.

Im sure you are, most leftist moral causes are at root a money transfer scam.

At least I am trying, I didn't choose this system and yes I do benefit from it. Changing things isn't easy and yes, everyone has their limits, no one saying all non natives must give up their houses to native people. I do think we can share the land.

We do share the land presently.

You just native culture like its inferior and want to punish them for not being Christian.

Most Indians are Christian in contemporary times, so by your dialectic I don’t want to punish them.

I already said I have no problem giving them complete sovereignty on their reserves. Which is more then leftists believe, the Makah tribe in Washington is being denied their treaty rights to whale because environmentalists think flipper is too precious or some nonsense. If I were dictator the Makah would be whaling away and stupid greenies pulling any stunts would be locked in the dungeon.

Really, why are corporations better than co-ops?


Fine, as long as they make the choice.

They certainly do make the choice. Indians in modern America (and Canada) fish on motorized boats, hunt with rifles, and live in modern houses or trailers and not in traditional cedar long houses or teepees.

Actually the topic of the thread is you crying over black mermaids.

I haven’t shed one tear over black mermaids

So did you complain about those films or were you fine with them?

I don’t care if you’ve boycotted movies due to casting decisions. This is a dodge

 

[EMNofSeattle]

The comment wasn’t directed at you, but apparently, you only want white, heterosexual mermaids.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds? That we are assigning race and gender to a mythical character?

Who gives a ****?

MerMAID assigns not only a sex, but a social rank of being an unmarried woman of marriagable age who’s a virgin.

She wants to become a real human to marry a human prince, have you even read the story?

 

[HangLow]

MAGA-freaks getting their panties in a twist over
a fictional mermaid character in a film aimed at 8-year-old girls.
A bunch of delicate snowflakes.

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