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The left when you logically play out their policies. #Shoutoutyourstatus

RBIII said:
You don't get to reap the pleasure benefits of sex, then at the same time try and absolve yourself from the reality of the consequences. And then try and be proud of those consequences so that you can feel better.

**** all that.
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LOL! That explains everything, including your pathological distrust of logic and reason. You're a Puritan.

Why didn't you just say that from the get-go?
 
MrWonka said:
Why not? Why should you be forced to feel like **** just because you got an STI? More than 9 million women every year are diagnosed with some type of STI. It sucks, but it happens. There's no reason you need to be depressed about it.
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Because there is a way to prevent it.
 
RBIII said:
Problem is, these same people likely won't tell you, so you will get their disease.
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Hold on man get your story straight. Are you bitching because these people are open and vocal about their status or are they super secretive and not sharing their status? You can’t have it both ways unless you’re a hypocritical democrat
 
Tanngrisnir said:
You wouldn't know, in any case.

They won judgeships, state houses and senates, governorships and won the House by the greatest percentage of vote in US history.

Sad that you hate and lash out against logic.
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Temporary emotional backlash that won't last.

Ya'll keep bringing up hate, when i never used the word.
 
Chillfolks said:
If people want to share how dirty or clean they are with the world more power to them. As a young single male I would of welcomed that information
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Right? Sure, it's weird to see someone be proud of having herpes but if you ran into that person at a bar and was single then it's pretty damn good knowledge to have.
 
JasperL said:
Your "logic" has failed you here.

There's nothing remotely evil about being HONEST and TRANSPARENT about STDs. I don't date anymore but I'd much prefer knowing than not knowing, and I'd much prefer someone secure enough to let me know than someone ashamed of having an STI and therefore hiding it. That's logical. What you are saying is a better option is shaming these people into silence and hiding. That's not just illogical, it's stupid.
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These people will not let you know before hand, if they did, diseases wouldn't spread, but they do.
 
RBIII said:
How are you perfectly logical when you are defending being proud to have a STD.

That's faulty logic, but logic nonetheless.
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It's not about being "proud" but being open, honest, transparent. It's truly baffling how you can find fault with that.
 
Verax said:
Interesting how the left focuses on stuff like everyone having healthcare and a living wage. The right focuses on people who have herpes and have the audacity to not let it shame them.
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And yet the Left promotes allowing in millions more unskilled, uneducated illegals who depress wages and over burdens our system.


Nothing your side says makes any sense.
 
RBIII said:
Wrong board, meant to go on general section.
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You completely failed with your last thread about logic, demonstrating you don't have a clue what logic is or means.

The logical thing to do would be to not start any more threads about logic until you study the subject.
 
RBIII said:
Wrong board, meant to go on general section.
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Hey, how's your "trickle down economics policy" working out for you other than it blowing up the national debt to record levels?

Right-wing nuts: "Lets try the same thing over and over and expect a different result".

There's a word to describe the above sentence.
 
RBIII said:
These people will not let you know before hand, if they did, diseases wouldn't spread, but they do.
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Don't be stupid. "These people" in the OP just announced it to the entire world on TWITTER for goodness sake. The hashtag is #Shoutyourstatus which encourages others with STDs to announce it, be honest, transparent. That's the opposite principle to being ashamed, hiding it, not telling your partners.

You've interpreted this exactly wrong, cannot be more wrong if you tried, your position is 180 degrees from correct, the polar opposite of "logical." Congrats!
 
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dobieg said:
And yet the Left promotes allowing in millions more unskilled, uneducated illegals who depress wages and over burdens our system.
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These are people who left a poverty stricken country, and managed to travel a great distance to successfully arrive at the borders of the USA. They have demonstrated determination, ingenuity, perseverance, and intelligence, or they wouldn't have made it. They would be a great asset to your country, not a burden.

I think the biggest problem much of the Trump base has with these people is the base knows they can't compete, intellectually or physically.
 
RBIII said:
I'm saying people don't talk like this on the right.
So if you are on the left, you need to answer for this.
The same way you want people on the right to answer for racism.
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So that means you're personally responsible for everything some idiot says "on the right"? Why haven't you defended any of that nonsense? Defend all the nonsense on the right then I'll defend it all on the left. Lead by example, kid.
 
Cool, I can already stop looking for the dumbest thread on the internet.
 
RBIII said:
But all things equal that person is worse,
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And all other things being equal the stupidity of this thread makes you worse. Does that mean you should have to go through life being depressed about the fact that you post nonsensically stupid internet threads? There are even ways you could prevent yourself from sounding so ridiculous. Does that mean you should beat yourself up about it forever and ever and be made to feel inferior?

RBIII said:
If a person was a virgin and contracted a disease on their first encounter, i have sympathy for that person. These people don't fit that category.
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How do you know that? How many times are you allowed to have sex before contracting a disease doesn't make you feel bad for the person who has it? 2? 10? 25?

Wait, let me guess how ever many times you've gotten laid is the right amount?

Basically, you sounds like you're just jealous that you're not getting laid more regularly and so you want bash women who are attractive enough to get regular enough sex that their odds of getting an STI increase.
 
OlNate said:
Do you think it's pride though? Or do you think it's just a statement that they won't feel ashamed. There's a difference, you know...I know, they're saying pride, but … maybe it's that I'm a filthy Lefty, but I can see this for what it is. On the one hand, yes, they could have taken some precautions, but as mentioned we all make mistakes...a simple lapse in judgement can end in a stubbed toe, a parking ticket, or any number of varying degrees of consequence, including catching an STD. Hell, I know a couple people now who have STD's because their partner was unfaithful. Should those people feel ashamed?

We, as humans, tend to shame a lot....maybe because we think it'll help the problem, or maybe because we're just ugly that way. But either way, it doesn't actually help or solve anything, and sometimes, as perhaps in this case (I'm 41, and already I don't understand things about the up and coming generation) it leads people further in the direction you didn't want them to go.
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Well said. I'm a recovering addict. I'm not "proud" of that in the least - I put myself and my family through years of hell, etc. However, I'm open about it here and IRL among friends because it sends the right message to others suffering, that life can go on and be far better sober than intoxicated. You might say I'm 'proud' of overcoming it, but not really. I just did what I had to do. Point is I'm no longer ashamed of my past. It is what it is. That's different than taking some "pride" in being a drunk for 15 years.

That's all this effort is doing IMO. There's no reason to be "proud" of getting an STD, but there's also no point is being ashamed for the rest of one's life about something they cannot change. And it's far, far, far better to be honest about it than run from it, pretend to everyone it's not just a fact of your life.
 
JasperL said:
Well said. I'm a recovering addict. I'm not "proud" of that in the least - I put myself and my family through years of hell, etc. However, I'm open about it here and IRL among friends because it sends the right message to others suffering, that life can go on and be far better sober than intoxicated. You might say I'm 'proud' of overcoming it, but not really. I just did what I had to do. Point is I'm no longer ashamed of my past. It is what it is. That's different than taking some "pride" in being a drunk for 15 years.

That's all this effort is doing IMO. There's no reason to be "proud" of getting an STD, but there's also no point is being ashamed for the rest of one's life about something they cannot change. And it's far, far, far better to be honest about it than run from it, pretend to everyone it's not just a fact of your life.
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Respect... FWIW, you should be proud. Overcoming an addiction is something to be proud of.

(And hell yeah, I'm debating you on that, even though you're kind of agreeing with me and being all vulnerable and stuff...)


:)
 
OlNate said:
Respect... FWIW, you should be proud. Overcoming an addiction is something to be proud of.

(And hell yeah, I'm debating you on that, even though you're kind of agreeing with me and being all vulnerable and stuff...)

:)
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It's all good. :peace

At some level, sure, I'm proud of it. Part of the 'not being proud' thing is the humility that comes with knowing that it's a pretty fragile state of affairs, even at this point more than a decade since my last drink, and not being seriously troubled or otherwise uncomfortable with my life sober. One of my very early friends in recovery was a guy 14 years sober, met a woman (who he later married), had a glass of wine on their first date, and long story short was dead from complications of drinking just 5 years later, a completely broken man, and when I met him was just on top of the world, funny, engaging, kind, thriving business, etc. We all watched it happen, and it was something I don't want to forget.
 
JasperL said:
It's all good. :peace

At some level, sure, I'm proud of it. Part of the 'not being proud' thing is the humility that comes with knowing that it's a pretty fragile state of affairs, even at this point more than a decade since my last drink, and not being seriously troubled or otherwise uncomfortable with my life sober. One of my very early friends in recovery was a guy 14 years sober, met a woman (who he later married), had a glass of wine on their first date, and long story short was dead from complications of drinking just 5 years later, a completely broken man, and when I met him was just on top of the world, funny, engaging, kind, thriving business, etc. We all watched it happen, and it was something I don't want to forget.
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Yup. It's a miserable thing. Never been through it myself, but my grandfather on my dad's side had a rough go with it - he was a veteran. Got to where we had a falling out that we just couldn't come back from. He died alone, and wasn't found for some time... Yet he was one of the finest men I've met when he was sober. It's a very hard thing to pull one's self out from under...and hard for everyone who cares around them.

Ya...damn.
 
RBIII said:
They need healthcare for all the diseases they are apparently trying to de-stigmatize.

I'm all for addressing wealth inequality. I think its the worlds biggest issue, only 2nd to the moral decline of people.
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The logical response to illness is to treat it, not stigmatize it.
 
RBIII said:
You don't get to reap the pleasure benefits of sex, then at the same time try and absolve yourself from the reality of the consequences. And then try and be proud of those consequences so that you can feel better.

**** all that.
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Straw man. Illogical. You fail again.
 
Deuce said:
The logical response to illness is to treat it, not stigmatize it.
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Behavior led to that illness, so yes, the behavior should be stigmatized.
 
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