the jewish holocaust caused by HITLER!

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

I admit that the bombings were a necessary evil. Today in my american studies 2 class, my teacher said that hitler had been wounded in ww1 and that hitler heard a voice saying stand up so he did and bam something went off right where he was sitting. That's how he got wounded, but it makes me wonder if he was insane... And I had thought he killed himself BEFORE the bombs.

Hitler got a dose of mustard gas that put him in the hospital.

 

[Aurora151989]

I just looked up what mustard gas is and wow, it IS potent. He may have had a teeny bit of compassion as he didn't use mustard gas in the concentration camps. Instead he used carbon monoxide or dioxide. (dark i know.)

 

[-Demosthenes-]

Hitler got a dose of mustard gas that put him in the hospital.

The people of Italy hung Mussolini upside down and dragged his body through the streets. Hitler knew this, and the Soviet army was invading Berlin. He shot himself in the head as the Soviets were closing.

Mustard gas had nothing to do with it.

 

[Aurora151989]

actually skilmatic, I have been educated that the war in iraq is for oil.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

The people of Italy hung Mussolini upside down and dragged his body through the streets. Hitler knew this, and the Soviet army was invading Berlin. He shot himself in the head as the Soviets were closing.

Mustard gas had nothing to do with it.

I was talking about Hitler's injuries as a corporal in the first war.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

I just looked up what mustard gas is and wow, it IS potent. He may have had a teeny bit of compassion as he didn't use mustard gas in the concentration camps. Instead he used carbon monoxide or dioxide. (dark i know.)

The CO gas was deemed inefficient and slow. They used Zyklon B, which releases cyanide gas in the "showers".

 

[White]

This is atrocious! I can't believe those officers even went along with him in the killings. And he had the GALL to committ suicide?? don't even get me started on HITLER he is the worst person in the universe! You know why? because he killed women men and children just because they weren't aryan!!

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

:roll:

 

[-Demosthenes-]

I was talking about Hitler's injuries as a corporal in the first war.

I misunderstood, I thought you were responding the the last part of the quote "...And I had thought he killed himself BEFORE the bombs."

actually skilmatic, I have been educated that the war in iraq is for oil.

Cool, how do we get oil by invading? Did soldiers bring it home with them?

 

[Aurora151989]

I misunderstood, I thought you were responding the the last part of the quote "...And I had thought he killed himself BEFORE the bombs."


Cool, how do we get oil by invading? Did soldiers bring it home with them?

We don't...which is why i don't like the war in iraq

 

[thapcballa]

I'm not exactly sure but I think Stalin actuall killed more people than Hitler. I read some kind of death count somewhere but I could be wrong. Also the guy who controled Cambodia killed like 60% of the people in Cambodia.

 

[SKILMATIC]

I don't know. From the texts I have, they imply that the mass bombings weren't all that effective. They were an annoyance and slowed things down, but they didn't really cut production all that much. I will look up the figures again very soon to provide the per centages they assigned.

Actually quite the opposite my friend. You break the backbone of the enemy you break the enemies will and ability to strive and make rpogress because you just rendered them incompatible. It was directly casue the mass city bombings we were able to roll right on through becasue of the fact we incinerated any dug in strong holds the germans might have been in.

According to my texts, even when the cities were bombed, the factories were quickly rebuilt and refurbished, or they went underground entirely, which did slow down production some, but nothing serious.

Yes that happened because the allied forces helped them after an area was secure. However, why would they rebuild if the next day we were just going to go through there again and decimate it once more? Doesnt make sense does it?

Out of everything, the things that seemed to have the least real impact were the mass air bombings.

Again you better brush up a little more on your war history bud. Now I can understand it didnt help very much inregards to winning the enemies morale support but we werent looking for moral support we were looking to complete objectives which war should be about. This is why we will never win like this in iraq and we didnt win like this in vietnam.

 

[SKILMATIC]

Re: the Jewish holocaust caused by HITLER!

There are several middle eastern countries with good economies and a dictatorship. Saudi Arabia comes to mind.

There are many more than saudi arabia hun. Which is why the war on terror includes all of these countries.

 

[SKILMATIC]

actually skilmatic, I have been educated that the war in iraq is for oil.

Really? Well let me know why my gas bill is still over 2bucks a gal? If it was for oil dont you think we would be shipping this stuff by the millions of tons to get our economy booming better? Common sense alone educates yourself to know that it wasnt for oil.

 

[SKILMATIC]

Really? Well let me know why my gas bill is still over 2bucks a gal? If it was for oil dont you think we would be shipping this stuff by the millions of tons to get our economy booming better? Common sense alone educates yourself to know that it wasnt for oil.

Actually to tell you the truth I wish it was for oil casue i am tired of my gas bill being like 40-60bucks a week.

 

[SKILMATIC]

I'm not exactly sure but I think Stalin actuall killed more people than Hitler. I read some kind of death count somewhere but I could be wrong. Also the guy who controled Cambodia killed like 60% of the people in Cambodia.

Your right stalin had been the cause of 20-30million of his own peopels deaths due to mostly starvation.

Also mao tse tung was the worst as he killed 60million of his own chinese citizens due to starvation as well. He took his countrymesn land and food for their supposed disobedience. I guess this is what socialism does to people. It turns into a genocidal totalitarianistic attrocity.

 

[-Demosthenes-]

We don't...which is why i don't like the war in iraq

Because we didn't get oil?

Economic gain isn't as important as the reason that were discussed earlier in the thread.

 

[Aurora151989]

Because we didn't get oil?

Economic gain isn't as important as the reason that were discussed earlier in the thread.

I don't see how you can fight against a concept as terrorism. We don't even have any idea where the system starts. we don't know if anybody's behind it and to me it seems like a concept.

 

[SKILMATIC]

I don't see how you can fight against a concept as terrorism. We don't even have any idea where the system starts. we don't know if anybody's behind it and to me it seems like a concept.

Hey I ma still waiting for my reply lol

 

[-Demosthenes-]

I don't see how you can fight against a concept as terrorism. We don't even have any idea where the system starts. we don't know if anybody's behind it and to me it seems like a concept.

"Atrocity" is also a concept, but we've got no problem fighting it. Those involved in terrorist activities, individuals, organizations, or governments who support terrorist activities are very good targets for fighting terrorism.

 

[Aurora151989]

Really? Well let me know why my gas bill is still over 2bucks a gal? If it was for oil dont you think we would be shipping this stuff by the millions of tons to get our economy booming better? Common sense alone educates yourself to know that it wasnt for oil.

Hey I ma still waiting for my reply lol

you win, i have no reply for you LOL

 

[DeeJayH]

I don't see how you can fight against a concept as terrorism. We don't even have any idea where the system starts. we don't know if anybody's behind it and to me it seems like a concept.

we may not have a clue as to who we are fighting
but the military and intelligence agencies do
that is why we have decimated Al-Qaida's leadership
that is why so many high ranking al-Qaida members have been killed or captured
that is why they are resorting to trivial atrocities in hopes of breaking our will
they have not been able to pull off another 9/11, and hopefully will not be allowed to do so again.

Al-Qaida is all but dead. and it is just the beginning of this war

 

[goligoth]

They (terrorist orginazations) obviously hate us for one reason or another.

And sure we might wipe out their leadership but the idea of terrorism against the U.S. and other countries will probably live forever. Eventually they will elect a new leader or a new one will step up. The fight won't end until every member of one side or the other is dead...and even then a feeling of unrest will still be here amongst the survivors. And with unrest comes rebellion. My sig says it all I think...


Well.....this sucks.:hitsfan:


But why is a thread on the holocaust being used to talk about terrorism?
To the thread title:
Yep,..... it sure was...

 

[-Demosthenes-]

And sure we might wipe out their leadership but the idea of terrorism against the U.S. and other countries will probably live forever. Eventually they will elect a new leader or a new one will step up. The fight won't end until every member of one side or the other is dead...and even then a feeling of unrest will still be here amongst the survivors. And with unrest comes rebellion. My sig says it all I think...

This fatalistic approat is not nessicarily true. Why doesn't Germany start another war with it's neighboring countires if things didn't change because of WWII? War can change things, there no reason to believe that Iraq is some vast anomoly to human nature, according to thousands of years of history:

Destroy corrupt leadership + rebuild economy + time = friendly country

It's worked every other time, what the heck, it might work again.

 

[robin]

This is atrocious! I can't believe those officers even went along with him in the killings. And he had the GALL to committ suicide?? don't even get me started on HITLER he is the worst person in the universe! You know why? because he killed women men and children just because they weren't aryan!!

Ronald Reagan had women men and children killed by right wing death squads in Nicaragua just becuase they didn't want to live under a fascist dictatorship.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

Ronald Reagan had women men and children killed by right wing death squads in Nicaragua just becuase they didn't want to live under a fascist dictatorship.

Yeah, those stupid Nicaraguans. The first chance they had for free elections they got rid of that nice Danny Ortega who was protecting them against the eeevillll Reagan.:roll: