The height of hypocrisy......

[mixedmedia]

I don't blame you but I can tell you this, if I had a daughter and some 35 year old guy was sleeping with her his ass would be 6 feet under and I would take my chances with the court system and that is no reflection on you............

My daughter was 15 at one time..........

I don't blame you for that. I understand how you feel. If I had my life to live over again, I would have made a better choice. I want to state unequivocally that I do not support or condone a relationship like the one I had for anyone, or even sex between teenagers for that matter. It is a waste to throw away the few carefree years you have for a life with adult worries and complexity. I am only grateful I had the wherewithal to come through with a thoroughly average life.

And for the record, my parents didn't know. Not until I told my mom years later.

 

[Deegan]

I don't blame you for that. I understand how you feel. If I had my life to live over again, I would have made a better choice. I want to state unequivocally that I do not support or condone a relationship like the one I had for anyone, or even sex between teenagers for that matter. It is a waste to throw away the few carefree years you have for a life with adult worries and complexity. I am only grateful I had the wherewithal to come through with a thoroughly average life.

And for the record, my parents didn't know. Not until I told my mom years later.

So would a whole lot of us, you seem to have turned out rather well, sometimes these experiences make us who we are, and strengthen our resolve.

 

[mixedmedia]

LMAO! I think it is sooooooooo hilarious that all men get excited about the thought of two women. I dated a guy some time ago, who said he thought it was gross. I asked him if he was just saying that because he was worried that I would judge him. He said no. For some reason, that really bothered me. *assisting six string with webcam*

Ummmm.....sorry folks.
aps, you're cool and all, but I'm just not into chicks.

I'd probably be better off if I were, though. :mrgreen:

 

[Deegan]

Ummmm.....sorry folks.
aps, you're cool and all, but I'm just not into chicks.

I'd probably be better off if I were, though. :mrgreen:

Well, I now must take back all the nice things I have said!:shock:

 

[mixedmedia]

Well, I now must take back all the nice things I have said!:shock:

Naw, please don't. Just teasing. :2wave:

 

[Navy Pride]

Ummmm.....sorry folks.
aps, you're cool and all, but I'm just not into chicks.

I'd probably be better off if I were, though. :mrgreen:

I wish I could remember what you guys are talking about when it comes to this 3some thing but its just a fading memory for me......:lol:

 

[mixedmedia]

I wish I could remember what you guys are talking about when it comes to this 3some thing but its just a fading memory for me......:lol:

Whew....that's a relief. :lol:

 

[Deegan]

Whew....that's a relief. :lol:

LOL, the lost opportunities!:doh :lol:

 

[Navy Pride]

aw, we are getting a little off topic here....I said it was a dimned memory but I am not dead yet.........:lol:

The stories I could tell you folks about some of my Ports of Call but they might not get by the censor board of the forum..........Might have to go to the basement...........:lol:

 

[mixedmedia]

aw, we are getting a little off topic here....I said it was a dimned memory but I am not dead yet.........:lol:

The stories I could tell you folks about some of my Ports of Call but they might not get by the censor board of the forum..........Might have to go to the basement...........:lol:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......:lol:

Just kidding. I'm sure you do have some interesting stories. In fact, I have heard interesting Navy stories before. :shock:

 

[sissy-boy]

I just cannot see how anyone can compare the violent crime of rape that in most if not all states carries a 25 years to life prison sentence.

Now, we're comparing the violent crime of rape to consensual sex between two people, say, 25 & 15? Surely you're not arguing that the 15 year old "victim" who willingly had sex with someone is scarred for life or in anyway has been harmed the way the violent rape victim was harmed?

They aren't harmed in most cases. If they were or say they were, they're most likely lying for a greedy lawyer who's gonna try to convince the 'victim' that he HAS been harmed. It's a frivolous case.

 

[SixStringHero]

LMAO! I think it is sooooooooo hilarious that all men get excited about the thought of two women. I dated a guy some time ago, who said he thought it was gross. I asked him if he was just saying that because he was worried that I would judge him. He said no. For some reason, that really bothered me. *assisting six string with webcam*

LOL

Well, the way I look at it... what's better than one naked woman?
2 naked women duh!

So yeah, I think that's the appeal to guys.
That and I broke up with my girlfriend just last month.

I'll take the Web-Cam over nothing.

 

[mixedmedia]

They aren't harmed in most cases. If they were or say they were, they're most likely lying for a greedy lawyer who's gonna try to convince the 'victim' that he HAS been harmed. It's a frivolous case.

In many cases there is no grievous harm done but the laws barring sex with minors are put in place to enforce a preferred social order and I tend to agree with the law on this matter. People break laws all the time and we all have to deal with the consequences of getting caught when we do.

What I would like to see from our justice system, though, is more of an effort to distinguish child molesters (people who engage in situational or spontaneous encounters with children) from pedophiles (people who obsess about sex with pre-pubescent children). Pedophiles are dangerous people and are given no special distinction in our laws.

 

[DeeJayH]

I was being facetious. Making light of DeeJayH's use of the term "screwed up positions." Guess I should have used a smilie.

Now here is my new challenge.....Can I make Navy Pride laugh? :mrgreen:

i picked up on it immediately, no worries

fyi though, you are dead wrong on every issue in this thread

 

[DeeJayH]

In many cases there is no grievous harm done but the laws barring sex with minors are put in place to enforce a preferred social order and I tend to agree with the law on this matter. People break laws all the time and we all have to deal with the consequences of getting caught when we do.

What I would like to see from our justice system, though, is more of an effort to distinguish child molesters (people who engage in situational or spontaneous encounters with children) from pedophiles (people who obsess about sex with pre-pubescent children). Pedophiles are dangerous people and are given no special distinction in our laws.

how about this

gas child molesters

and electrocute pedophiles

 

[DeeJayH]

I'll say it again, it depends on the nature of the relationship.

And I'll make an admission here - when I was 15 I was "dating" a 35-year-old man. Now I really don't want to go into any more detail than that - I know it raises a lot of questions in people's minds, but I shouldn't have to go into that to make my point. I just want to purport that the nature of the relationship was mild and non-traumatic to me. I am a capable and productive citizen and parent. I have a zestful and, for the most part, positive outlook on life. I've never abused drugs or alcohol. I am not promiscuous. I suffer no anxieties or irrational fears. I don’t hate men. I have lived a normal life otherwise. I could have had a relationship with a boy closer to my age that could have involved physical or mental abuse that would leave me scarred for life. I could have been involved in an incestual relationship with my brother or a cousin that would leave me burdened with guilt and shame. Or, if I were someone else, just the simple fact of an affair with an older man could have waged huge negative consequences. Everyone is different and these relationships can play out in a variety of ways - age is not alone a determining factor in whether there is lasting damage. Mitigating factors created by the characters of the people involved and the nature of their relationships is by far more telling.

In a simple black & white world, would I prefer one of my daughters to have a sexual relationship with a boy their age than a grown man? In such a world, yes. But I know there is no such a world.

That's my point and that’s all I have to say about that.

*coughs* denial *coughs* suppressed memories *coughs* future child molestor *coughs*

the 35 yr old pig should be chemically or physically NEUTERED immediately
and he would have been if i caught him with my daughter

 

[sissy-boy]

16 is legal in many states right or wrong. Doesnt apply. We were talking illegal/legal there.


And I am sure you being such a well informed responsible individual at 16 considered the full consequences of your actions, used condoms, prioritized your education, etc....

So you ran across the street and didnt get run over. Good for you. Lots of kids dont make it.

Oh please! MOST teenagers are sexually active by the time they are 16. There's nothing wrong with that. I think they should be encouraged to experiment with different people to be sure they choose the RIGHT one. If we encouraged sodomy instead of abstinence there wouldn't be so many abortions, as we all know abstinence doesn't work and is not realistic. And only leads to broken marriages and families torn apart -- OR you end up with astronomical rates of domestic & sexual abuse like we did before divorce was popularized.

 

[mixedmedia]

*coughs* denial *coughs* suppressed memories *coughs* future child molestor *coughs*

the 35 yr old pig should be chemically or physically NEUTERED immediately
and he would have been if i caught him with my daughter

I see only one suppressed person in denial on this thread. And are you trying to imply that I will one day molest children? I think you ought to wash up before you go **** yourself. That was uncalled for.

 

[sissy-boy]

In many cases there is no grievous harm done but the laws barring sex with minors are put in place to enforce a preferred social order and I tend to agree with the law on this matter. People break laws all the time and we all have to deal with the consequences of getting caught when we do.

What I would like to see from our justice system, though, is more of an effort to distinguish child molesters (people who engage in situational or spontaneous encounters with children) from pedophiles (people who obsess about sex with pre-pubescent children). Pedophiles are dangerous people and are given no special distinction in our laws.

I agree with them too. I just think that some rational thought needs to be put into every case and a little leniency in cases like the one in point. And of course it was pretty lenient.

HOWEVER it's not for everyone. Like the man in Kansas who was is sitting in prison for 17 years for performing oral sex on a kid when the same crime to a female would have got him SEVEN years!

Now if THAT isn't ridiculous I don't know what is. But that is Kansas for ya!



W i t c h H u n t o f M a t t h e w L i m o n
C o n t i n u e s
http://morons.org/articles/2/6629

Limon has already served 4 years in prison for a crime that would
have gotten a heterosexual one year; now the despicable state of
Kansas wants more...

We've followed the case of Matthew Limon for years. Limon received a
17-year prison sentence for giving consensual oral sex to another male when
a heterosexual offender would have received at most a little over a year.
Eventually the Kansas Supreme Court found some way to see past the
homophobia that runs rampant in that state and reversed his conviction,
ruling that the state couldn't treat homosexual offenders differently.

This ruling seems to have really stuck in Kansas's craw. Now Miami County
Attorney David Miller has filed new charges against Limon in the same case
that Limon has already served 3 years in prison longer for than a
heterosexual would. Miller wants Limon to be put on parole for 5 more
years, not to send him back to prison.

 

[mixedmedia]

I agree with them too. I just think that some rational thought needs to be put into every case and a little leniency in cases like the one in point. And of course it was pretty lenient.

HOWEVER it's not for everyone. Like the man in Kansas who was is sitting in prison for 17 years for performing oral sex on a kid when the same crime to a female would have got him SEVEN years!

Now if THAT isn't ridiculous I don't know what is. But that is Kansas for ya!



W i t c h H u n t o f M a t t h e w L i m o n
C o n t i n u e s
http://morons.org/articles/2/6629

Limon has already served 4 years in prison for a crime that would
have gotten a heterosexual one year; now the despicable state of
Kansas wants more...

We've followed the case of Matthew Limon for years. Limon received a
17-year prison sentence for giving consensual oral sex to another male when
a heterosexual offender would have received at most a little over a year.
Eventually the Kansas Supreme Court found some way to see past the
homophobia that runs rampant in that state and reversed his conviction,
ruling that the state couldn't treat homosexual offenders differently.

This ruling seems to have really stuck in Kansas's craw. Now Miami County
Attorney David Miller has filed new charges against Limon in the same case
that Limon has already served 3 years in prison longer for than a
heterosexual would. Miller wants Limon to be put on parole for 5 more
years, not to send him back to prison.

I certainly don't support discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. But here in Florida, oral sex is given the same designation as intercourse in child molestation cases. Or, you know, now that I think about it, maybe that's just for children under 12. I may have to go look that up later. But basically there are no punitive degrees between the different types of penetrative sex.

 

[DeeJayH]

I see only one suppressed person in denial on this thread. And are you trying to imply that I will one day molest children? I think you ought to wash up before you go **** yourself. That was uncalled for.

i am sorry but dont all the liberal yahoos that want to understand pedophiles and child molesters, all but universally agree, that the predators are almost always victims?

so yes, in all likelihood, it is very probable that you will end up being that piece of trash 'who wanted to be a cool mom' so she supplied kids with drugs and had sex with them. Maybe that is a side of reality you choose not to deal with, but that is the reality i have learned about in my years on this shithole

I was gang raped by 6 men in my early 20's ( i noticed everyone just glazed over my earlier post stating that)
I had trouble dealing with it immediately thereafter, because i passed out immediately upon penetration by the first guy, which resulted in an earth shattering POP and lightning bolt of agony that made me pass out/black out immediately
but since i have dealt with it and lead a 'normal and productive life' since, maybe we should legalize FORCIBLE RAPE

sure sounds like it from the lame argument you made about how you were raped and it had no consequences

 

[AlbqOwl]

i am sorry but dont all the liberal yahoos that want to understand pedophiles and child molesters, all but universally agree, that the predators are almost always victims?

so yes, in all likelihood, it is very probable that you will end up being that piece of trash 'who wanted to be a cool mom' so she supplied kids with drugs and had sex with them. Maybe that is a side of reality you choose not to deal with, but that is the reality i have learned about in my years on this shithole

I was gang raped by 6 men in my early 20's ( i noticed everyone just glazed over my earlier post stating that)
I had trouble dealing with it immediately thereafter, because i passed out immediately upon penetration by the first guy, which resulted in an earth shattering POP and lightning bolt of agony that made me pass out/black out immediately
but since i have dealt with it and lead a 'normal and productive life' since, maybe we should legalize FORCIBLE RAPE

sure sounds like it from the lame argument you made about how you were raped and it had no consequences

I am so sorry this happened to you because such an experience leaves an indelible imprint that can never be erased. My previous post on this subject was also glossed over. There is a difference between sex that is forced, coerced, extorted, or brought about through fear or intimidation versus those relationships in which things get out of hand when an older person and a minor fall in love. Probably every one of us knows at least one circumstance in which the latter happened. There is no way to relate any degree of trauma in consensual relationships. There is always trauma when sex is forced on a child. And the penalties should be much more severe for the latter than the former.

Nevertheless, when there is improper conduct with a minor by an adult entrusted with the care and safety of that minor, this cannot be allowed without consequences and such consequences should be quite serious. There are no consequences severe enough, however, for sexual predators who intentionally harm or hurt children.

 

[DeeJayH]

this is life
some live fairy tales, and god bless them for such
others live the horrors others only read about and say ' that doesnt happen here'

this is why every life is precious to me
this is why every adult who defiles a child is satan to me, whether forced or coerced/manipulated/charmed
pedophiles learn exaactly what to say to get a childs confidence and to get in their pants

and i get that some 16 year olds are more mature than 21 year olds
and that having sex, at that age, with an older person is not such a big deal, sometimes
but the govt/doctors are able to collect massive data relating to the public at large and make judgements from it, and make generalizations from it about the norm

my son is 17, and he is more mature than some 40 year olds i know
does that mean i think he is ready to start banging everything in site? NO
because he is also less mature than some 14 year olds i have met.

maybe some should try erring on the side of caution
rather than condoning/overlooking things some kids do

 

[Navy Pride]

That is why every state has a statuatory rape law on the books and a child can not consent........It is still rape......

 

[aps]

Ummmm.....sorry folks.
aps, you're cool and all, but I'm just not into chicks.

I'd probably be better off if I were, though. :mrgreen:

OMG, mixedmedia is rejecting me.