The Duce is back to regime change.

[Tigerace117]

Yep, they were. In 1939. Your references to D-Day (1944) leads me to believe you don't understand how time works.

Except they weren’t. And the British and French didn’t declare war on the Soviets precisely because they weren’t.

The US occupied Greenland— a territory of Denmark— in fact, in the exact same way the Soviets occupied eastern Poland. Does that make America a “military ally” of Nazi Germany?

Coming from the guy who apparently doesn’t know what the words “joint” or “alliance” means, that’s a laugh.

 

[Cosmo]

Except they weren’t. And the British and French didn’t declare war on the Soviets precisely because they weren’t.

They didn't declare war on them because they had no way of fighting them at the time.

They didn't declare war on Italy or Japan at the time either. What a dumb litmus test you have there - straight out of the Kremlin metodichka.

The US occupied Greenland— a territory of Denmark— in fact, in the exact same way the Soviets occupied eastern Poland. Does that make America a “military ally” of Nazi Germany?

Did they jointly invade and fight Danish government troops? Did they divide the Danish lands into spheres of influences the month before?

Coming from the guy who apparently doesn’t know what the words “joint” or “alliance” means, that’s a laugh.

 

[Tigerace117]

They didn't declare war on them because they had no way of fighting them at the time.

They didn't declare war on Italy or Japan at the time either. What a dumb litmus test you have there - straight out of the Kremlin metodichka.

Did they jointly invade and fight Danish government troops? Did they divide the Danish lands into spheres of influences the month before?

They had no intention of actually fighting the Germans, as the Sitzkrieg shows, yet they declared war anyway. Another Cosmo narrative crashed and burned

Oh look, more squealing about “stupidity” from the guy who didn’t know the Soviets had some of the best planes of the war….or, like, numerous other really basic historical facts.

They both invaded and occupied sovereign Danish territory, yes. By your laughable “definition” they’d be military allies.

 

[Cosmo]

They had no intention of actually fighting the Germans, as the Sitzkrieg shows, yet they declared war anyway. Another Cosmo narrative crashed and burned

Oh look, more squealing about “stupidity” from the guy who didn’t know the Soviets had some of the best planes of the war….or, like, numerous other really basic historical facts.

They both invaded and occupied sovereign Danish territory, yes. By your laughable “definition” they’d be military allies.

Typical reductivism practiced by Kremlin metodichka users.

 

[Tigerace117]

Typical reductivism practiced by Kremlin metodichka users.

Typical “Russia Russia Russia” wailing because you can’t bear to face up to the historical facts.

 

[Fledermaus]

Typical reductivism practiced by Kremlin metodichka users.

Dead on balls accurate.

 

[Tigerace117]

Of course, no amount of flailing can ever change the fact Zelensky’s fantasies about “regime change” aren’t even remotely achievable

 

[Cosmo]

Of course, no amount of flailing can ever change the fact Zelensky’s fantasies about “regime change” aren’t even remotely achievable

Tell us what you think about Vladimir Putin, comrade!

 

[Tigerace117]

Tell us what you think about Vladimir Putin, comrade!

I think he’s pretty much a standard dictator. America’s proudly backed at least a half a dozen worse regimes in the last seventy years alone.

But I get historical facts aren’t really your thing

 

[Cosmo]

I think he’s pretty much a standard dictator. America’s proudly backed at least a half a dozen worse regimes in the last seventy years alone.

But I get historical facts aren’t really your thing

One historical fact is that Hitler and Stalin agreed to split up Poland which they were about to invade and wage war in together against the owner's government troops. That historical fact slipped your mind because it was inconvenient to your reductivist attempt to equate the events in Greenland to the events in Poland.

 

[Tigerace117]

One historical fact is that Hitler and Stalin agreed to split up Poland which they were about to invade and wage war in together against the owner's government troops. That historical fact slipped your mind because it was inconvenient to your reductivist attempt to equate the events in Greenland to the events in Poland.

Except for the inconvenient reality that the German economy required invading and conquering other countries to continue functioning, so pretending that the Soviets had any control over Hitler’s decision making is laughable.

Oh, and the Soviets never waged war together with the Nazis. They did do the overwhelming majority of the fighting against the Nazis, but I get that America doesn’t see fighting fascism as a good thing

But I get having to face up to the fact America occupied Danish soil while the Panzers were rolling through Copenhagen just isn’t something you can bear to do

 

[Cosmo]

Except for the inconvenient reality that the German economy required invading and conquering other countries to continue functioning, so pretending that the Soviets had any control over Hitler’s decision

Never said they did. I see you like injecting irrelevant factoids into the discussion, though!

making is laughable.

Oh, and the Soviets never waged war together with the Nazis.

What exactly is your definition of "together with the Nazis?" What must happen for that to be true?

They did do the overwhelming majority of the fighting against the Nazis, but I get that America doesn’t see fighting fascism as a good thing

But I get having to face up to the fact America occupied Danish soil while the Panzers were rolling through Copenhagen just isn’t something you can bear to do

 

[Tigerace117]

Never said they did. I see you like injecting irrelevant factoids into the discussion, though!

What exactly is your definition of "together with the Nazis?" What must happen for that to be true?

You’ve repeatedly tried to shift blame for starting the war onto the Soviets, which makes your sudden backpedaling all the more comical.

Them actually doing so together, for starters.

 

[Rogue Valley]

But I get having to face up to the fact America occupied Danish soil while the Panzers were rolling through Copenhagen just isn’t something you can bear to do

As always, your distorted view of History.

The United States never occupied Denmark, but during World War II, it established a temporary protectorate over Greenland, a Danish territory, after Germany occupied Denmark in 1940. This arrangement allowed the U.S. to secure Greenland's strategic position without directly occupying Denmark itself.

 

[Tigerace117]

As always, your distorted view of History.

The United States never occupied Denmark, but during World War II, it established a temporary protectorate over Greenland, a Danish territory, after Germany occupied Denmark in 1940. This arrangement allowed the U.S. to secure Greenland's strategic position without directly occupying Denmark itself.

The U.S. absolutely occupied Greenland, which was sovereign Danish territory. It didn’t ask the Danes permission beforehand either, precisely because of Greenland’s “strategic position”.

 

[Fledermaus]

As always, your distorted view of History.

The United States never occupied Denmark, but during World War II, it established a temporary protectorate over Greenland, a Danish territory, after Germany occupied Denmark in 1940. This arrangement allowed the U.S. to secure Greenland's strategic position without directly occupying Denmark itself.

Details, details.

 

[iguanaman]

interweb is saying chasov yar is now under Russian control

They have been trying to do that for over a year and it still is not 100% under their control. The Russian military is incompetent and corrupt.

 

[iguanaman]

The U.S. absolutely occupied Greenland, which was sovereign Danish territory. It didn’t ask the Danes permission beforehand either, precisely because of Greenland’s “strategic position”.

You mean they refused to hand it over to the Nazi's after Denmark was invaded and taken.

 

[Tigerace117]

They have been trying to do that for over a year and it still is not 100% under their control. The Russian military is incompetent and corrupt.

That’s not what the Ukrainians in Chasiv Yar keep saying.

Of course, if what you claimed were actually true, the utter failure of the Ukrainians to defeat them in almost four years of trying would be all the more damning.

 

[Tigerace117]

You mean they refused to hand it over to the Nazi's after Denmark was invaded and taken.

The Soviets didn’t hand over the section of Poland they occupied to the Nazis either, yet you lot are whining bitterly about that.

The double standard is rather glaring.

 

[iguanaman]

That’s not what the Ukrainians in Chasiv Yar keep saying.

Of course, if what you claimed were actually true, the utter failure of the Ukrainians to defeat them in almost four years of trying would be all the more damning.

Yes since Ukraine is a far bigger nation and has much more resources than puny little Russia...

 

[Fledermaus]

The fall of Denmark in April 1940 left the Danish colony of Greenland an unoccupied territory of an occupied nation, under the possibility of seizure by the United Kingdom, United States or Canada. To forestall this, the United States acted to guarantee Greenland's position. On 9 April 1941, Greenland became a de facto United States protectorate. With the entrance of the United States into the war in December 1941, Greenland became a combatant.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes since Ukraine is a far bigger nation and has much more resources than puny little Russia...

Ukraine is a large country in its own right, so that excuse doesn’t even remotely hold up.

Especially since they’ve been receiving all that supposedly “best in the world” equipment for years now. If the Russians were as incompetent as you keep claiming, the Ukrainians should have won the war by now.

 

[iguanaman]

The Soviets didn’t hand over the section of Poland they occupied to the Nazis either, yet you lot are whining bitterly about that.

The double standard is rather glaring.

Russia annexed every single nation they "liberated" in WWII because that is what Russia does. They steal land by force.

 

[iguanaman]

Ukraine is a large country in its own right, so that excuse doesn’t even remotely hold up.

Especially since they’ve been receiving all that supposedly “best in the world” equipment for years now. If the Russians were as incompetent as you keep claiming, the Ukrainians should have won the war by now.

Russia controls less territory than they did in 2022 and have lost 500,000 men so yes their military is incompetent and corrupt. Russia is sacrificing 30,000 men a month to Putin and that is the only reason Ukraine has not won already.