1.The mother would not even sacrifice 9 months of her life that her child may see the light of day.
We have to teach our children empathy and compassion.
So where do you stand on birth control, availability of birth control, cost of birth control, and seriously comprehensive and honest sex education classes that are not solely focused on abstinence?
This made me change my position on the issue NOT lol
Anyways
1. Humans don't ''see the light of day'' until some years after birth when they actually know of their own existence. I myself actually remember this and it was around 3 years of age and I was hiding in a pillow at my mom's before she died and I was adopted luckily
Humans live in the darkness for a couple of years of life and don't place value on their very own existence until some years of development
And there is no reason for rational moral agents to allow something to suck blood and dump bio toxic waste into them for free for 9 months. We don't give this treatment to mosquitos or leaches when we kill them right when they decide to suck blood out of us.
If you truly believe that, then you have no clue. None.And the reason behind abortion? It all boils down to.....Narcissism.
If you truly believe that, then you have no clue. None.
1. We've already talked about your mention of the term, "rational" in that other topic.
2. I also gave the characteristics of a psychopath - which shows that there is a resemblance to that kind of "rationalization" and ......lack of emotion/feeling.
Psychopaths - Characteristics of the Psychopathic Personality
3. Anyway....your post above no longer makes any sense.
Care to expand on that? Or are we supposed to take that as the final word of wisdom.
And the reason behind abortion? It all boils down to.....Narcissism.
Are you really that naive?
Here's something for you to think about.
In some cases, I'd bet empathy and compassion are at times reason.
Just so to be clear.....empathy and compassion for whom?
Care to expand on that? Or are we supposed to take that as the final word of wisdom.
That would be because most "rational moral agents" recognize that mosquitos and leaches are not human.This made me change my position on the issue NOT lol
Anyways
1. Humans don't ''see the light of day'' until some years after birth when they actually know of their own existence. I myself actually remember this and it was around 3 years of age and I was hiding in a pillow at my mom's before she died and I was adopted luckily
Humans live in the darkness for a couple of years of life and don't place value on their very own existence until some years of development
And there is no reason for rational moral agents to allow something to suck blood and dump bio toxic waste into them for free for 9 months. We don't give this treatment to mosquitos or leaches when we kill them right when they decide to suck blood out of us.
The desperate struggle for self-preservation. The desperate attempt to survive. No contest here.
The only one whose natural instinct should be to protect had, unnaturally, turned against its own.
The mother would not even sacrifice 9 months of her life that her child may see the light of day.
All pro-choice should watch this. I can't. The descriptions I've read is enough.
Narcissism doesn't come into play for those who have been raped, abused, their marriage going south, or too young to be able to raise a child.
I would welcome you to Women in Crisis Center where women from all walks of life come to counsel, not about abortion, but how desperately to sort out their lives, get away from abusers, clean themselves up from addictions, any serious problem you could imagine. And yes, some do come pregnant.
The women that seeking the counsel of an objective third party (and we CANNOT go pro or anti abortion) that clears the path to making clear headed decisions is far from narcissism. Those that are pregnant, some have kept, some have not. But each one dragged through with great thought and painful emotions in making their choices. You have no clue.
By that statement alone shows you truly don't comprehend the pain that some women go through to make their choices. Persecuted? The overblown emotion isn't serving you well.So why is the child the one being persecuted to the point of being snuffed?
So the woman who is being abused by her husband or SO, not means to support herself, should go through 9 months of additional abuse, to not necessarily be able to give the child up for adoption, which requires the consent of BOTH parents. What then?No one is trying to force anyone to raise the child! Don't kill him. Give him up for adoption!
What part of CANNOT wasn't clear?I do hope the day comes when you do try to talk someone out of killing an innocent human being.
I do hope the day comes when you guys do really EMPOWER women by helping them recognize the inner strength they have - a lot of decent, productive human beings were raised by single mothers at a time when single motherhood carried a nasty stigma!
And you are so easily willing to sacrifice those who can't..... the life of the unborn is more precious than those of the already born?Sometimes, you learn to swim when you're unexpectedly thrown in the water!
While I can appreciate that someone did what they did to make it through, that is one in hundreds of thousands who may not.I've learned about the steely strength an elderly woman possessed through the eulogy at her funeral. She was in her 80's when she died.
She was abandoned by her husband and raised her son all by herself. To make ends meet, she found employment and took in boarders.
Her son was one of the first "latchkey" kids....coming home earlier than his mom, doing his homework and helping mom by prepping supper, thus all mom had to do was cook it when she got home.
I can't exactly remember the details but apparently there was the fear that her son would be taken from her. Her son gave the eulogy - his own grown-up children and grandchildren beside him. He turned out to become a Principal in a school - two of his three children became educators, and one is an environmentalist. The values he learned from his mother - he'd passed on to his own children.
That would be because most "rational moral agents" recognize that mosquitos and leaches are not human.
1. So why is the child the one being persecuted to the point of being snuffed?
2. No one is trying to force anyone to raise the child! Don't kill him. Give him up for adoption!.
I see. So any human that doesn't fit your definition of a "rational moral agent" can be exterminated. Perhaps it is you who doesn't fit the definition.You obviously don't know what I mean by rational moral agents. There are rational attributes associated with personhood and none of the unborn have them thus not rational moral agents. I already listed the attributes somewhere around here.
And yes obviously mosquitos and leaches are not human BUT comparing the actions of the unborn to actions of these entities is ok. If we kill the mosquitos and leaches because of the actions, then the unborn can be killed for the same reasons because they do the same exact thing
There is just no substitute for liberal compassion.2. Yes kill him. They're like roaches easy to make and replace. Gotta love the law of supply and demand
I see. So any human that doesn't fit your definition of a "rational moral agent" can be exterminated. Perhaps it is you who doesn't fit the definition.
Exactly. A 40 year old man left brain dead from an automobile accident wouldn't qualify as a "rational moral agent." Does that mean we are free to abuse his body? Execute him? Conduct experiments on him? And just how does a newborn qualify as a "rational moral agent?" I guess we are free to wipe out children all the way up to the age of 9 or 10 then.It's not at all difficult to see how this use of the term “rational moral agent” could be expanded and abused to justify the killing of almost any group of humanity, based on disability, allegations of mental illness (as a cover for political disagreement), and so on.
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