• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every persons position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Scott

Banned
Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Messages
934
Reaction score
80
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Liberal
The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury. I you've probably guessed, I've debated about Apollo before so, in this first post, I addressed all of the explanations that the pro-Apollo people usually come up with in the first ten pages or so of a thread such as the rocks, or the idea that the Russians would have snitched, etc.

Apollo 15 flag waving - YouTube
(If this link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving")

At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

There's an analysis of that here in this three part series.
MoonFaker: The Flags Are Alive. PART 1. - YouTube

Here's a link to the original NASA footage.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15v.1485317.rm

More on the flag-
moonfaker flagging the dead horses - YouTube
windyz.wmv - YouTube

The above video refutes this attempt by the government to mislead the public.
Mythbusters Moon Hoax Flag Flapping - YouTube

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage - YouTube
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm

What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved their methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
Man didnt land on the moon

It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 40 second mark.
Funny thing happened on the way to the Moon - Czech subtitles / České titulky

(The above video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" keeps going on and off-line. If the above link is dead, click here)
a funny thing happened on the way to the moon - Buscar con Google

It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
--------------------------------
When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.
Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage - YouTube

Here it is doubled.
Jumping on the moon at double speed - YouTube

When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations) combined with wire supports in the later missions.

MoonFaker: The Penny Drops. PART 1 - YouTube
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.
Apollo_11__The_TV_Transmission_Conspiracy_Theorists_Hate_.mp4 - YouTube
(00:52 time mark)

The corner of Collins' jacket swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.

If the above link is dead, the footage can be seen here.
Watch Videos Online | Apollo XI: The Little Gem | Veoh.com
(17:40 time mark)

It's necessary to download the "Veoh video player" to be able to see it. It's free.
----------

Look at the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing in this clip.
Discovery Crew Enters International Space Station - YouTube

That is real zero-gravity and they behave quite differently.

The movement of Collins' jacket corner is very different from that of the straps in this clip which is in zero-G.
Our World: Exercise Equipment - YouTube
(3:17 time mark)

It looks the same as the movement of this guy's jacket corners in gravity.
ISS space station treadmill running - YouTube

One possible explanation is that they were trying to fake zero-gravity in a diving plane and the plane wasn't diving fast enough at that point.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no blast crater under the lander.
http://thoughtworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picture1.jpg

That is discussed in this four part video series.
MoonFaker: No Crater. PART 1 - YouTube

-----------------------------------------------

Look at the size of the reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor at the beginning of this video.
Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage - YouTube

Now look at the reflection of the sun in the visor in the picture at the top of this page.
First American space walk

It's pretty clear that the reflection in the Apollo astronaut's visor is that of a big light. Here's an article about that.
AULIS Online – Different Thinking
---------------------

At bottom of this page there's a picture of the astronaut's visor that has in it the reflection of what looks like some kind of studio light.
AULIS Online – Different Thinking

-----------------------------------------------
Here's some evidence that they used wire supports to fake lunar gravity.
Fake moon landing - wire supports - YouTube
-----------------------------------------------

The moon rocks are often presented as proof the missions were real. There are plausible explanations that would explain them.
MoonFaker: Exhibit D. PART 5. - YouTube
MoonFaker: Rocks & Crocks. PART 1. - YouTube
28. "Moonstones" coming from the Earth - "lunar probes" were¨not necessary
MoonFaker: Moon Rocks Revisited - YouTube


------------------------------------------------------------------------

People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:
moonfaker cold war - YouTube

Nardwuar vs Bill Kaysing
(excerpt)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?
(excerpt)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everyone should read Chomsky's analysis of the cold war.
http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr2304.htm
(excerpt)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It someone were to make a deathbed statement saying the moon missions were faked, the press would never report it as the press is controlled.
Media Watch
chomsky media - YouTube
William Schaap - Part 1/8 - The Media, CIA, FBI & Disinfo. - YouTube

Also, it would be downright dangerous for someone to come forward. Look what happened to these guys.
Thomas Baron and astronauts killed to keep Apollo program - YouTube
Sacrifice On Pad 34. - YouTube
Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE) - YouTube

continued...
 

Scott

Banned
Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Messages
934
Reaction score
80
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Liberal
...continued

Here are some videos.
moonfaker - YouTube
Apollo Moon Hoax? Dr. David Groves Analysis - YouTube
Apollo Moon Hoax? Spotlights, Fall-off, Camera Angles - YouTube
http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
Apollo Moon Hoax Investigation Pt 1 - YouTube
(8 parts)

Moon hoax - Wire Supports (Mythbusters) - YouTube

NASA BIG-LIES.ORG Moon Landing 1/5 fraud hoax scam 1969-1999 - YouTube

The proof that the LRO photos are photoshopped - YouTube
MoonFaker: LRO at 50km. PART 1 - YouTube
MoonFaker: LRO at 25km, Dead Ends & No Fly Zones. PART 1 - YouTube
The Great Lunar Hoax with Dr. Stephen Rorke Part 1 - YouTube
The Great Lunar Hoax with Dr. Stephen Rorke Part 2 - YouTube

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)
what happened on the moon - Buscar con Google

The Moon Landings Fact or Fiction by Marcus Alan - YouTube
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here are some articles.
Nardwuar vs Bill Kaysing
Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?
http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
http://erichufschmid.net/Interview-w...rt-Sibrel.html
http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
AULIS Online – Different Thinking
Northerntruthseeker: Project Apollo... What Were They Thinking? Part II
The Apollo Hoax
Moon Hoax - SourceWatch
The Conspiracy Zone : THE MOON LANDING HOAX....
Apollo and NASA
Center for an Informed America
(Wagging the Moondoggie)

Moon Hoax - Metapedia

The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
Clip of Apollo 11 press conference - YouTube

Here's a link to the entire conference.
Conferencia de Prensa Astronautas Apollo 11 - YouTube

This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too.
Astronauts Gone Wild: An Investigation into the Authenticity of the Moon Landings (2004) on Vimeo

The main reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. Here are some articles and videos I've found on the subject.

http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
(excerpt)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

two sets of radiation data
NASA REALLY MOONED US
(excerpt)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deadly Radiation At and Past the Van Allen Shields
Apollo details
NASA Warped our View of Space - Political Conspiracies - The Education Forum

These two are important
---------------------------
Articles_1
MoonFaker: Exhibit C. PART 5 - YouTube
---------------------------

Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem - YouTube
Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem II - YouTube
Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem 2.5 4 Dummies - YouTube
Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem III (Major Solar Flares) - YouTube
Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem 3.5 Addendum - YouTube
Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem IV (Radiation Everywhere) - YouTube
---------------------------
Lunarcy: NASA's Radiation Problem 4.5 - YouTube
MoonFaker: Cold War II. PART 2 - YouTube
---------------------------
MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly. PART 1. - YouTube
(23 parts)

----------------------------------------------------------------
The Chinese space walks were obviously faked in a water tank and NASA's official position is that the Chinese space walks were real.
Proof China Faked Their Spacewalk (Part 2) - YouTube
About paper and bubbles of ShenzhouVII - YouTube
China's Space Walk Was FAKE (part 1) - YouTube
China Astronauts Make Low-Profile Visit to Hong Kong | Regime | China | Epoch Times
Confirmed Discrepancies in CCTV

The pro-Apollo posters at the forums of both the "Clavius" and "Bad Astronomy" websites tap danced around the evidence that the Chinese space walk was faked because they have to agree with the official US government version and they can't say it was faked without looking silly. Here are the threads. They're hilarious.

Chinese space walk conspiracy
ApolloHoax.net - Phony Chinese Spacewalk

They pretty much destroyed the credibility of those two sites when they didn't seriously address the evidence.
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

It's pretty clear that they're government damage-control sites.

Here's some good research if anyone wants to delve further.
Viewing Single Post From: We Never Went to the Moon

On this thread there's a debate between Jarrah White and Jay Windley.
IMDb :: Boards :: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon (2001) :: Could this be one of the most under-app...

Jay Windley is the most famous pro-Apollo person on the internet.
Clavius: Conspiracy - about the author

Jarrah White is the main hoax-believer on the internet.
moonfaker - YouTube

In this video Jarrah says he stopped posting in that debate because the moderator was deleting his posts.
MoonFaker: The Punch Heard All Around The World. PART 3 - YouTube

Jay Windley will only debate where the moderator will ride to his rescue when he's cornered.

Here's some more stuff about Clavius and Bad Astronomy.
Let's analyze the Clavius and Bad Astronomy sites - David Icke's Official Forums

They may have faked the Mars missions too. Do a YouTube search on "MarsFaker" or click on this link.
MarsFaker - YouTube
 

RabidAlpaca

Engineer
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 4, 2012
Messages
21,375
Reaction score
27,506
Location
American Refugee in Europe
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury. I you've probably guessed, I've debated about Apollo before so, in this first post, I addressed all of the explanations that the pro-Apollo people usually come up with in the first ten pages or so of a thread such as the rocks, or the idea that the Russians would have snitched, etc.
I can't believe you've wasted so much time on such a ridiculous idea. No educated person of science on the planet believes this is a hoax.

There are a million ways to prove we landed there, but how about an easy one for starters:
Lunar Laser Ranging experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apollo 11 dropped a laser reflector on the moon so that we could ping the moon with a laser and determine the distance between the earth and the moon within about a centimeter accuracy. This has been done since the day it was set there, by independent scientists.
 

Scott

Banned
Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Messages
934
Reaction score
80
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Liberal
Apollo 11 dropped a laser reflector on the moon so that we could ping the moon with a laser and determine the distance between the earth and the moon within about a centimeter accuracy. This has been done since the day it was set there, by independent scientists.
If the Surveyor program wasn't bogus, they had the technology to soft-land robotic craft on the moon which could have had an adjustable reflectors on their sides.
What Happened on the Moon full documentary 2 of 2 - YouTube
(1:17:50 time mark)

Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were people on the moon.
 

Scott

Banned
Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Messages
934
Reaction score
80
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Liberal
No educated person of science on the planet believes this is a hoax.
There's a list of Apollo hoax-believers here.
Moon Hoax - Metapedia

Scientists who depend on funding from their governments have to watch what they say.
The Conspiracy Zone : THE MOON LANDING HOAX....
(excerpts)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?
A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but relay on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.
A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here's a guy with a PH.D who thinks the moon missions were faked.
The Great Lunar Hoax with Dr. Stephen Rorke Part 1 - YouTube
The Great Lunar Hoax with Dr. Stephen Rorke Part 2 - YouTube
Google
 

mike2810

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 26, 2010
Messages
24,644
Reaction score
8,997
Location
arizona
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
you should search this forum. The topic has already been discussed.

It is not worth the time to rehash the same things. You present nothing new.
 

Goshin

The Hammer of Chaos
DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 16, 2009
Messages
45,510
Reaction score
50,092
Location
Dixie
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Horse ****.


It would have taken more technology to fake it than to do it.

If they tried to fake it with 1960's technology, we'd be able to EASILY unravel the fake-ness with 21st century tech.

Not to mention hundreds of people would have had to be in on it and keep their mouths shut for decades. "Three can keep a secret, if two are dead." - Ben Franklin.


Nonsense.
 

Scott

Banned
Joined
Apr 10, 2007
Messages
934
Reaction score
80
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Liberal
It would have taken more technology to fake it than to do it.
The anomalies in the footage and photos show that they faked it. The reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. There's some info on that in my second post.
 

Paschendale

Uncanny
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 3, 2010
Messages
12,510
Reaction score
12,604
Location
New York City
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Socialist
My father worked at Kennedy Space Center during the Apollo missions. He programmed computers that were used during the missions and watched the rocket launch. Are you calling my father a liar?
 

wolfman24

Demented Lycanthropist
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 17, 2012
Messages
5,058
Reaction score
1,402
Location
East Waboo USA
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
This is absurd and not the product of a thinking mind (supposed proof). There is just too much evidence to support it from various countries around the world. Not to mention the moon rocks which have compounds in them not found on earth.

JUST PLAIN STUPID
 

RabidAlpaca

Engineer
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 4, 2012
Messages
21,375
Reaction score
27,506
Location
American Refugee in Europe
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
If the Surveyor program wasn't bogus, they had the technology to soft-land robotic craft on the moon which could have had an adjustable reflectors on their sides.
What Happened on the Moon full documentary 2 of 2 - YouTube
(1:17:50 time mark)

Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were people on the moon.
I guess you can't argue with crazy. So what is it that you're trying to accomplish by following this theory here and ignoring all of the evidence?

My favorite quote from Charlie Duke, one of the Apollo 16 astronauts:
“We’ve been to the moon nine times. If we faked it, why did we fake it nine times?”
 
Last edited:

Bodhisattva

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 29, 2007
Messages
92,806
Reaction score
19,806
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Independent
If the Surveyor program wasn't bogus, they had the technology to soft-land robotic craft on the moon which could have had an adjustable reflectors on their sides.
What Happened on the Moon full documentary 2 of 2 - YouTube
(1:17:50 time mark)

Reflectors on the moon are not proof that there were people on the moon.
You think that we had the technology to land robotic craft on the moon, deploy the adjustable deflectors and return but not to take people there?

Robotic technology like that didn't exist, as we can clearly see in the attempts to do the same on Mars.

NASA is packed with some of the best minds on Earth... one would think that they would have "faked" the mission much better so that little things like the flag waving would not have happened, but as we really know, the flag waving in a vacuum is stronger than with atmosphere.

Seriously... I didn't think that you would actually make a thread when I suggested it to you. I was hoping that my mocking would persuade you to see reason. My bad.
 

Jetboogieman

Somewhere in Babylon
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
30,986
Reaction score
34,314
Location
Somewhere in Babylon...
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
You know.

The OP is also a holocaust denier so we really don't have to listen to anything he has to say but I will say a brief word on the subject.

I read a very good book on conspiracy theories awhile back and it spoke about the moon landings.

It said that in reality, for all the effort it would have taken to fake the moon landings, make it look legitimate, make sure nobody found out about the forgery and propogate the falsehood forever... it would have simply been easier to go to the moon.

Not that that'll convince the Holocaust denying OP but that's the fun of conspiracy theorists, they're the gift that keeps on giving!
 

Harshaw

Filmmaker ● Lawyer ● Patriot
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 1, 2005
Messages
38,750
Reaction score
13,832
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
How many threads are you planning to start on this, Scott?
 

wolfman24

Demented Lycanthropist
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 17, 2012
Messages
5,058
Reaction score
1,402
Location
East Waboo USA
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
You know.

The OP is also a holocaust denier so we really don't have to listen to anything he has to say but I will say a brief word on the subject.

I read a very good book on conspiracy theories awhile back and it spoke about the moon landings.

It said that in reality, for all the effort it would have taken to fake the moon landings, make it look legitimate, make sure nobody found out about the forgery and propogate the falsehood forever... it would have simply been easier to go to the moon.

Not that that'll convince the Holocaust denying OP but that's the fun of conspiracy theorists, they're the gift that keeps on giving!
I reade the same book
 

Rokkitsci

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 16, 2010
Messages
547
Reaction score
297
Location
Buffalo, Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
I have worked on every manned space program that the United States has put in place - from Project Mercury on up through the Space Station (although the current configuration looks nothing like it did when I left NASA in 93)

I knew every astronaut personally up through all the Shuttle Missions prior to the fifth or sixth one. I knew all the men who walked on the moon personally.

I will not even engage in a discussion of "was it faked?" with anyone other than my great-grandsons if one of them ever asks such a question. I didn't even discuss it with one of my uncles who was convinced they were faked. I just told him he was wrong, but didn't bother trying to convince him with data or rationale.

Those who subscribe to such an inane theory have too much time on their hands. They need to get a productive job.
 

Sonic

Banned
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
294
Reaction score
118
Location
California
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
I have worked on every manned space program that the United States has put in place - from Project Mercury on up through the Space Station (although the current configuration looks nothing like it did when I left NASA in 93)

I knew every astronaut personally up through all the Shuttle Missions prior to the fifth or sixth one. I knew all the men who walked on the moon personally.

I will not even engage in a discussion of "was it faked?" with anyone other than my great-grandsons if one of them ever asks such a question. I didn't even discuss it with one of my uncles who was convinced they were faked. I just told him he was wrong, but didn't bother trying to convince him with data or rationale.

Those who subscribe to such an inane theory have too much time on their hands. They need to get a productive job.
You're just in denial.
 

Lutherf

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2012
Messages
38,135
Reaction score
45,075
Location
Tucson, AZ
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I think y'all are being a little harsh on Scott. Sure the conspiracy has been blown out of the water and sure you'd need a lifetime supply of Reynolds Wrap to make a tin foil hat big enough to warrant believing is such hogwash but he deserves a little credit for daring to bring up something that's been so thoroughly debunked. That takes gumption!
 

Jetboogieman

Somewhere in Babylon
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 12, 2010
Messages
30,986
Reaction score
34,314
Location
Somewhere in Babylon...
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
but he deserves a little credit for daring to bring up something that's been so thoroughly debunked.
Not really, it shows an extreme lack of intelligence and critical thinking to come the conclusions he comes to, especially in regards not only to this but his much more disdainful holocaust denial in another thread.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they have an extreme case of confirmation bias.

Everyone does to a certain extent but in these cases it's impossible to reason with someone like Scott because they start at the end.

"The Moon Landings were faked"

"The Holocaust didn't happen"

They'll only ever believe the so called "evidence" that supports those notions and either never read, or refuse to believe any evidence to the contrary of those conclusions.

Which as I said before shows an extreme lack of intelligence that deserves all the ridicule that can be mustered.
 

Lutherf

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2012
Messages
38,135
Reaction score
45,075
Location
Tucson, AZ
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Not really, it shows an extreme lack of intelligence and critical thinking to come the conclusions he comes to, especially in regards not only to this but his much more disdainful holocaust denial in another thread.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they have an extreme case of confirmation bias.

Everyone does to a certain extent but in these cases it's impossible to reason with someone like Scott because they start at the end.

"The Moon Landings were faked"

"The Holocaust didn't happen"

They'll only ever believe the so called "evidence" that supports those notions and either never read, or refuse to believe any evidence to the contrary of those conclusions.

Which as I said before shows an extreme lack of intelligence that deserves all the ridicule that can be mustered.
He's a holocaust denier too? Is it safe to assume that he's a truther too?

I can't help but figure that folks like this just post this stuff to get a reaction. I don't see how it can possibly be believed.
 
Top Bottom